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DanceteriaBandit

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 9:43 pm


PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:33 pm


can any one help me I am very new at DDR if any one has tips for me on how to improve please pm me

Song-of-Fire


Sando Tagashibura

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:45 pm


Song-of-Fire
can any one help me I am very new at DDR if any one has tips for me on how to improve please pm me
I knew I was going to post something like this one day...
===================================
Dancing Tips for the Beginner
===================================

KEEP PRACTICING!

So, you've just got into DDR, eh? Good for you! You've become a part of a
cult sensation that still holds tons of respect in arcades across the country!
This game will probably seem quite overwhelming to you at first, especially
if you watch people play it and watch them do 9-footers. Don't sweat it.
You CAN be as good as them with the proper practice and effort.

If you really want to get into this, definitely use the Official DDR Pad.
There's no PS2 controller to use in the arcades, so learn the pad nice and
early. Most game stores have a few of these tucked away (possibly more, if
Konami's hyping this game like they should). If you're truly a beginner, you
may just want to start with a nice cheap pad. That way, if you find it's not
for you, you're not out a huge investment.

So, to begin, use the Lesson Mode the game provides you. It will walk you
through the basics and coach you to be a better dancer.

Despite the Lesson Mode, here are some tips I can give you as a beginner:

1. Get a good feeling for the beat. People who have performed with music have
an advantage. People in marching band have a serious advantage. ~_^ You'll
be stepping to the beat in these early stages, so get used to it now.

2. Now that you have the beat, you must "find the arrows". Yeah, sure. I
know they're right there in front of you, to your sides, and behind you, but
can you hit them without looking? Early on, you'll find that's your biggest
problem: taking a step and not landing on the arrow. If you have to look,
look, but that tactic won't last forever, so before a song takes off, take
some cursory steps to make sure you're hitting arrows.

3. Keep your center. Especially on cheap pads with no definition, you'll find
yourself often taking leave of the center of the pad as you continue stepping.
If there's a break in the song, look down to make sure you're in the center.

4. Use the balls of your feet. You may notice, after some days of a lot of
playing, that your ankles will start hurting. That's normal, and it's
happened to most everyone I know that DDRs. This is your feet telling you to
not step with your heels, but with the front of the foot. Get into that
habit.

5. Now that you have these basics, and the Lesson Mode (largely) completed,
head into Beginner Mode and start tackling songs. In particular, get used to
the speed of the songs, as well as the speeding-up, slowing-down, and stopping
some songs do. When that just gets too easy, take a deep breath and head into
the real DDR world with Light Mode. Try to keep your songs at three feet or
below, but don't be afraid to venture out into the great unknown.

=======================================
Dancing Tips for the Intermediate
=======================================

KEEP PRACTICING!

Well, you're definitely not a n00b anymore (pardon my French). You're at the
point where you wouldn't completely humiliate yourself at the arcades, but
you probably won't impress many people there. In fact, you may just bore them
with your simple steps. It's time to go to the next level.

At this point in your career, it's time to consider a new pad. For me, this
meant going to redoctane.com and ordering their standard soft pad. This pad
has a soft bottom which won't slip or bunch up as much. It's still not a
serious pad, but you could do worse with fifty bucks...

So, first tip is to KNOW THE SONGS. You don't necessarily need to memorize
the steps, but have a basic understanding of the song before you go into it.
Even memorize the music itself, the lyrics, etc. so you can whistle along.
Know where the tempo changes may occur, where stops are. Most importantly,
know where the songs musical notes occur in the melody, because these will
be mostly what you step.

Now that we're heading into dangerous territory, there is one big rule that
I have to stress right away:

Remember how in the last part I told you to "find your center"? Well, you've
found it by now, so now it's time to GET OFF IT. That's a crutch that's
let you into the game, but it will hold you back later on. What you have to
learn is to return your feet to the center as rarely as possible, if at all.
Move your feet from one arrow to the next, and don't move them unless you have
an arrow to go to. This is probably the hardest thing you'll ever have to
learn as a DDR player. Once you've relinquished your grip on the center, you
only stand to improve up to the highest reaches of DDR-dom.

This actually leads to the other major point of going intermediate:

Eighth notes. Those are those off-colored ones. You'll have to deal with
a lot of them, so learn to love them now. This is actually a good first step
to leaving the center, because you are absolutely required to step three or
more arrows in succession, and you'll have no time to return to the center at
all. Use groups of three eighth notes to figure how to properly move between
arrows; combinations such as up-left-down, where your right foot goes on up,
left foot goes on left, and your right foot is already carrying back towards
the down arrow, for example. Once you get strings of three down, you'll be
ready to tackle longer strings, of four, five, seven, even nine if they're
not too tangly...

So, for this end, you'll want to go for songs of four to six feet in
difficulty, as well as treading into the pink pink waters of Standard Mode.
Just about all songs of this difficulty have at least several eighth notes
to give you practice. Take these opportunities to develop your step
combinations for your own style, so you'll be ready to use them when they
appear again in harder songs.

Also, it may behoove you to get into Workout Mode or Endless Mode and
repeatedly hammer some songs, particularly those of a brisk pace. This is a
good first step to building up all-important stamina.

===================================
Dancing Tips for the Advanced
===================================

KEEP PRACTICING!

All right. You're through messing around, and through getting condescending
looks from your peers at the arcade. It's time to show them what you can
really do and kick it up a notch or three.

If you're really serious now, it's once again time for a new pad. Although
7, 8, and even some 9-footers are possible on a soft, flimsy pad, you just
won't get the high scores you cherish. For this, I turned to RedOctane's
Ignition 2.0. It's also a soft pad, but the thick foam insert, soft gripping
bottom, and raised step platforms make it a good pad for aspiring champions,
all for a paltry 100 clams.

Of course, if you have the money to blow (approximately $300), you may want
to take it even further and buy the Cobalt Flux pad, which is a custom-made
hard metal pad. It's VERY resilient, and much like pads you'll see in the
arcades.

Anyway, pads aside, it's time to get down to business:

First, you better have mastered the stuff from the previous sections. I want
to be able to yell out a song title and for you to hum it right there so you
know what it sounds like. I don't wanna see your feet touch that center,
soldier, or you'll drop and give me fifty. At this point, you should also
have quick enough eye-foot coordination so that matching arrows on the screen
with proper steps is second-nature.

Now, for some new tactics:

Chaos. You'll soon find as you reach the higher levels, that not all arrows
are quarter notes and eighth notes. You'll find sixteenths, twelfths, and
thirty-second notes thrown in to mess you up. Very rarely will they be in
random. Almost always, they'll match up with how the song goes, so you'll
at least have that going for you. So, a thorough knowledge of the songs will
allow you to surmount this hurdle with little difficulty.

Taps. This is the name I like to give eighth notes all on the same arrow.
These are always a pain, because you have to train your foot to tap rapidly on
the same arrow for a possibly long time, and it can really wear you out.
There's no easy way to get around this, you just have to learn it as you go.

Gallops. This is the popular name for a series of steps that has two
sixteenth note steps together, then two sixteen notes of dead space, then two
note steps together, and so on. When you step these notes, you'll feel like
a horse gallopping, which derives the name. Oftentimes, these notes will be
strung so that the last note in one gallop is the first note of the next
gallop. To properly step these, leave your last-stepping foot in place, so
it'll be ready to step the next gallop while your other foot moves to the
next note. This leads to the final tactic.

Axis of Rotation or "crossovers". Contrary to popular belief, you do not have
to have your upper body directly facing the screen at all times. A very
important tactic for the toughest songs is turning your body so that making
truly difficult steps becomes easier. Using alternating feet on long series'
of eighth notes is far less taxing than taking two or more eighth notes with
one foot. The best way to start turning your body is with left-down-right
eighth note combos. Left foot on the left arrow, right foot on the down, and
turn so that your left foot hits the right arrow. It'll be very disorienting
at first, but the hard songs will really take it out of you if you don't
learn. After learning a basic turn, learn to maintain your body at a 90
degree angle to the screen for extended periods of time, and then taking it
further by rotating 180 degrees, or even 270 and 360, if you're brave enough
to take your eyes off the screen.

Finally, it's important to be in relatively good shape for this. You have to
have the proper stamina and leg strength to pull off the toughest ones,
because rather dexterous and tiring feats will be required of you, so keep
pounding at it, do hard songs repeatedly to build up strength, and push
yourself harder and harder to go all the way up to the great green Heavy
Mode.

And lastly, never tackle 10-footers without a good insurance plan backing
you up... ^_^
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:27 pm


eek

Wow, I wish I had those tips back when I first started.

Three days with little to no sleep, 9:30 at night...My friend had been playing a little longer than me...Light mode on Drop Out.

I could have killed her. o.o

But those are great tips! domokun

AndreaSunami


Sando Tagashibura

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:31 pm


AndreaSunami
eek

Wow, I wish I had those tips back when I first started.

Three days with little to no sleep, 9:30 at night...My friend had been playing a little longer than me...Light mode on Drop Out.

I could have killed her. o.o

But those are great tips! domokun
Thnx! I just like DDR, but where I live, the people who play DDR aren't as skilled as I am. I always wanted competition, tired of playing alone, so I wrote these tips to help them get on to heavy quicker. It has been 100% proven that these facts will work or twice your wasted time back!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:35 pm


Is it true that CRASH! is on DDR MAX2 (US)?

Also, I'm getting my first pad and I think it'll be a metal one. Good or not? o_O'

Spawn of Dinosaurs


Sando Tagashibura

PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:37 pm


[Spawn Xinjiang]
Is it true that CRASH! is on DDR MAX2 (US)?

Also, I'm getting my first pad and I think it'll be a metal one. Good or not? o_O'
To answer your questions in order, no and yes.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:39 pm


Sando_Tigashibura
[Spawn Xinjiang]
Is it true that CRASH! is on DDR MAX2 (US)?

Also, I'm getting my first pad and I think it'll be a metal one. Good or not? o_O'
To answer your questions in order, no and yes.

I just checked DDR Freak and it said it was, but the only step things they had was on doubles.

Spawn of Dinosaurs


Spawn of Dinosaurs

PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:42 pm


Nevermind, but it looks like all the songs on the US versions are s**t. -_-'
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:44 pm


[Spawn Xinjiang]
Sando_Tigashibura
[Spawn Xinjiang]
Is it true that CRASH! is on DDR MAX2 (US)?

Also, I'm getting my first pad and I think it'll be a metal one. Good or not? o_O'
To answer your questions in order, no and yes.

I just checked DDR Freak and it said it was, but the only step things they had was on doubles.
Here is the song list of MAX2 US:
These first group of songs are all initially playable, meaning you don't have to unlock any of these songs. They are all indicated by dark green lettering.

01. A Little Bit Of Ecstasy
-----------------------
Jocelyn Enriquez Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 56 -- 135 Light: 4 / 2
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 7 / 7

02. BREAK DOWN!
-----------
Be For U Beginner: 2 / -
BPM: 190 Light: 4 / 4
Standard: 6 / 6
Heavy: 9 / 9

03. Busy Child
----------
The Crystal Method Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 125 Light: 5 / 3
Standard: 7 / 6
Heavy: 7 / 8

04. CONGA FEELING
-------------
VIVIAN Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 130 Light: 3 / 4
Standard: 5 / 7
Heavy: 8 / 8

05. D2R
---
NAOKI Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 160 Light: 3 / 3
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 7 / 7

06. Days Go By
----------
Dirty Vegas Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 127 Light: 4 / 2
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 6 / 6

07. DESTINY
-------
NAOKI feat. PAULA TERRY Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 155 Light: 2 / 2
Standard: 5 / 6
Heavy: 7 / 8

08. DREAM A DREAM
-------------
CAPTAIN JACK Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 141 Light: 4 / 4
Standard: 6 / 6
Heavy: 7 / 7

09. DRIFTING AWAY
-------------
LANGE feat. SKYE Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 136 Light: 2 / 2
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 8 / 8

10. Get Down Tonight
----------------
K.C. & The Sunshine Band Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 106 -- 120 Light: 3 / 2
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 6 / 6

11. GHOSTS (VINCENT DE MOOR REMIX)
------------------------------
TENTH PLANET Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 138 Light: 3 / 3
Standard: 6 / 5
Heavy: 8 / 8

12. Heaven
------
DJ Sammy & Yanou featuring DO Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 138 Light: 4 / 3
Standard: 6 / 6
Heavy: 7 / 7

13. i feel ...
----------
AKIRA YAMAOKA Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 141 Light: 3 / 2
Standard: 6 / 5
Heavy: 9 / 9

14. IN THE NAVY '99 (XXL Disaster Remix)
------------------------------------
CAPTAIN JACK Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 135 Light: 4 / 4
Standard: 6 / 5
Heavy: 8 / 8

15. Keep On Liftin'
---------------
dj nagureo Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 100 Light: 3 / 3
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 5 / 6

16. LET'S GROOVE
------------
TIPS & TRICKS VS WISDOME Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 65 -- 130 Light: 2 / 3
Standard: 5 / 4
Heavy: 6 / 7

17. LONG TRAIN RUNNIN'
------------------
BUS STOP Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 126 Light: 2 / 3
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 7 / 7

18. Love At First Sight
-------------------
Kylie Minogue Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 125 Light: 4 / 2
Standard: 5 / 4
Heavy: 7 / 6

19. LOVIN' YOU (ROB SEARLE CLUB MIX)
--------------------------------
VINYL BABY Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 139 Light: 2 / 3
Standard: 6 / 5
Heavy: 8 / 8

20. rain of sorrow
--------------
NM feat. Ebony Fay Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 140 Light: 2 / 2
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 9 / 8

21. SO DEEP (PERFECT SPHERE REMIX)
------------------------------
SILVERTEAR Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 140 Light: 3 / 2
Standard: 5 / 6
Heavy: 9 / 9

22. STILL IN MY HEART
-----------------
NAOKI Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 150 Light: 4 / 4
Standard: 6 / 5
Heavy: 7 / 7

23. Take Me Away (into the night)(radio vocal)
------------------------------------------
4 STRINGS Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 138 Light: 4 / 2
Standard: 6 / 5
Heavy: 7 / 7

24. THE WHISTLE SONG (Blow My Whistle Baby)
---------------------------------------
DJ ALLIGATOR PROJECT Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 140 Light: 3 / 3
Standard: 4 / 4
Heavy: 7 / 7

25. TSUGARU
-------
RevenG vs DE-SIRE Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 165 Light: 3 / 4
Standard: 6 / 7
Heavy: 9 / 9

26. TWILIGHT ZONE (R-C Extended Club MIX)
-------------------------------------
2 UNLIMITED Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 138 Light: 3 / 3
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 9 / 8

27. Will I?
-------
Ian Van Dahl Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 140 Light: 3 / 3
Standard: 6 / 5
Heavy: 7 / 7


These songs have all been on other DDR mixes. These songs are all initially
playable, as well. They are indicated by light blue lettering.

28. AM-3P
-----
KTz Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 130 Light: 5 / 5
Standard: 6 / 6
Heavy: 8 / 7

29. CELEBRATE NITE
--------------
N.M.R Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 144 Light: 4 / 4
Standard: 6 / 6
Heavy: 7 / 7

30. Do It Right
-----------
SOTA feat. Ebony Fay Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 135 Light: 4 / 4
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 7 / 8

31. Groove
------
Sho-T feat. Brenda Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 130 Light: 4 / 3
Standard: 6 / 6
Heavy: 8 / 8

32. HYSTERIA
--------
NAOKI 190 Beginner: 2 / -
BPM: 190 Light: 4 / 3
Standard: 6 / 5
Heavy: 8 / 7

33. I Was The One
-------------
good-cool Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 125 Light: 3 / 3
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 7 / 6

34. Jam & Marmalade
---------------
Final Offset Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 145 Light: 3 / 4
Standard: 5 / 6
Heavy: 8 / 7

35. Kind Lady
---------
OKUYATOS Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 135 Light: 4 / 4
Standard: 6 / 5
Heavy: 7 / 8

36. Secret Rendez-vous
------------------
DIVAS Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 98 Light: 2 / 2
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 7 / 7

37. Silent Hill
-----------
THOMAS HOWARD Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 125 Light: 2 / 4
Standard: 6 / 5
Heavy: 7 / 7

38. Spin the disc
-------------
good-cool Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 130 Light: 2 / 2
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 8 / 8

39. SUPER STAR
----------
D.J.RICH feat. TailBros. Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 128 Light: 5 / 4
Standard: 6 / 6
Heavy: 8 / 8

40. THE SHINING POLARIS
-------------------
L.E.D. feat. Sana Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 147 Light: 3 / 3
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 7 / 7


These songs have to be unlocked by playing the normal game mode. These songs
are all indicated by yellow lettering.

41. AFRONOVA
--------
RE-VENGE Beginner: 2 / -
BPM: 200 Light: 5 / 6
Standard: 7 / 7
Heavy: 9 / 9

42. Bad Routine
-----------
D.J. Spugno Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 130 Light: 4 / 3
Standard: 5 / 6
Heavy: 6 / 7

43. Burning Heat! (3 Option Mix)
----------------------------
Mr.T with Motoaki.F Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 166 Light: 2 / 2
Standard: 5 / 6
Heavy: 9 / 9

44. CAN'T STOP FALLIN' IN LOVE
--------------------------
NAOKI Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 155 Light: 3 / 3
Standard: 5 / 4
Heavy: 8 / 8

45. DIVE (more deep & deeper style)
-------------------------------
Be For U Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 155 Light: 3 / 2
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 7 / 6

46. Don't Stop! (AMD 2nd MIX)
-------------------------
Dr. VIBE feat. JP miles Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 130 Light: 4 / 3
Standard: 5 / 4
Heavy: 7 / 6

47. END OF THE CENTURY
------------------
NO.9 Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 170 Light: 4 / 5
Standard: 7 / 6
Heavy: 9 / 9

48. feeling of love
---------------
youhei shimizu Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 136 Light: 4 / 4
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 7 / 7

49. Forever Sunshine
----------------
Chel Y. Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 128 Light: 3 / 2
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 5 / 6

50. I Need You
----------
Supa Fova feat. Jenny F. Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 114 Light: 3 / 3
Standard: 4 / 5
Heavy: 5 / 6

51. more deep (ver.2.1)
-------------------
Togo Project feat. Sana Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 133 Light: 3 / 2
Standard: 5 / 5
Heavy: 6 / 6

52. PARANOiA KCET (clean mix)
-------------------------
2MB Beginner: 2 / -
BPM: 180 Light: 5 / 5
Standard: 7 / 7
Heavy: 9 / 9

53. PUT YOUR FAITH IN ME
--------------------
UZI-LAY Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 120 Light: 3 / 4
Standard: 4 / 5
Heavy: 6 / 6

54. Radical Faith
-------------
TaQ Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 114 Light: 4 / 3
Standard: 6 / 6
Heavy: 8 / 8

55. SP-TRIP MACHINE (JUNGLE MIX)
----------------------------
DE-SIRE Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 160 Light: 6 / 7
Standard: 7 / 8
Heavy: 8 / 8

56. think ya better D
-----------------
sAmI Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 136 Light: 3 / 3
Standard: 4 / 4
Heavy: 5 / 7

57. Tomorrow Perfume
----------------
dj TAKA Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 144 Light: 3 / 3
Standard: 5 / 6
Heavy: 7 / 7

58. Try 2 Luv. U
------------
S.F.M.P. Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 115 Light: 3 / 2
Standard: 4 / 4
Heavy: 5 / 6

59. VANITY ANGEL
------------
FIXX Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 140 Light: 3 / 3
Standard: 6 / 5
Heavy: 8 / 8

60. xenon
-----
Mr.T Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: 158 Light: 4 / 5
Standard: 6 / 6
Heavy: 9 / 9


These songs have to be unlocked by playing the normal game mode. All these
songs have only one difficulty: Challenge (Oni). They are all indicated by
dark purple lettering.

61. AM-3P (AM EAST mix)
-------------------
KTz Challenge: 7 / 7
BPM: 140

62. CELEBRATE NITE (EURO TRANCE STYLE)
----------------------------------
N.M.R Challenge: 8 / 8
BPM: 144

63. Do It Right (80's Electro Mix)
------------------------------
SOTA feat. Ebony Fay Challenge: 7 / 7
BPM: 135

64. HYSTERIA 2001
-------------
NM Challenge: 7 / 7
BPM: 190

65. Kind Lady (interlude)
---------------------
OKUYATOS Challenge: 8 / 8
BPM: 135

66. Silent Hill (3rd christmas mix)
-------------------------------
THOMAS HOWARD Challenge: 7 / 7
BPM: 125

67. SUPER STAR (FROM NONSTOP MEGAMIX)
---------------------------------
D.J.RICH feat. TailBros. Challenge: 7 / 7
BPM: 128


These songs are the really secret songs of the game. The both have to be
unlocked. They are indicated by red lettering.

68. KAKUMEI
-------
dj TAKA with NAOKI Beginner: 1 / -
BPM: ??? Light: 4 / 3
Standard: 6 / 5
Heavy: 9 / 9
Challenge: 8 / 8

69. MAXX UNLIMITED
--------------
Z Beginner: 3 / -
BPM: ??? Light: 6 / 6
Standard: 8 / 8
Heavy: 10 / 10

Sando Tagashibura


Spawn of Dinosaurs

PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:52 pm


Again, they all seem like BS except for Dream a Dream which I've played many times and failed horribly at in trick mode on Solo 2000.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:56 pm


[Spawn Xinjiang]
Again, they all seem like BS except for Dream a Dream which I've played many times and failed horribly at in trick mode on Solo 2000.
Well, there are a handful of songs which are awesome in it.

Sando Tagashibura


djTAKA

PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:33 pm


question: when will DDR have much harder songs like that of ITG? xd
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:19 am


djTAKA
question: when will DDR have much harder songs like that of ITG? xd
lol. Prolly Never. My friend had the nerve to actually BUY one of those machines for himself, and they have insane songs on it.

Sando Tagashibura


djTAKA

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:23 am


yeah, ITG is pretty hard, thats why i like it whee

except the mines. they disrupt me sad
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