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Im part Irish

mrgreen i really like your sig.

all hallowseve is not just a "celtic or irish "
custom it was all of old world includeing but not limited to
english,scottish,irish,french, and many other cultures had a end of the year fall feastival , the greeks and romans had a fall festial to honor the gods and goddesses of the harvest i think that you should do some homework before you bash people dear . I am irish and i am pagan and it hurts to see that people are getting kinda wierd about others doing things from there culture that is not from it . ... you take christmas santa is not a christian or english creation he is from the norse he is = to odin the head of the norse gods but you do not see scandinavians getting mad cuse every year people but up pictures of santa and people dress like him in malls

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Thank you...

Just because many Hallowe'en traditions come from old Celtic traditions doesn't mean the Irish are the only people who can celebrate it... rolleyes

And really... we pagans could argue that it was our RELIGION that started it, not the specific culture.

And since the pagan religion incorporates many old world cultures, our claim is stronger. wink

You don't EVEN want to get into a debate about stealing holidays with pagans... we've had waaaay too much practice to lose...


tell me about the practice i have to listen to my hubby every year all year long about how this is realy pagan and that is realy pagan , the "you know what that custom came froms?" the " you know santa is really odin "
same thing year after year but i still love him lol and i guess i have gotten used to it lol

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Wow. Does it matter who it's celebrated by? It's just a holiday and anyone can celebrate it if they want. It's not limmited only to the irish. Plus, I'm american and i don't see what the big deal is. Why'd you even post that? Seems kinda pointless to me.

i'm aware that santa didnt just come from the norse-the russians had a father frost who closely resembles the modern day santa and the germans had a "santa" figure too.Christians added them to the story of st.Nick who "aparently" threw money down the chimney of a poor widower's house at christmas so his 2 daughters could have doweries to get married. we also got the xmas tree from the germans when prince albert,a german married his cousin queen victoria.this made the xmas tree popular.Its one thing adopting another coutry's custom but its another thing to have the arrogance to claim that custom as your own and make tacky celebrations out of it-halloween and st.paddy's day are irish traditions.the americans claim they celebrate all other countries festivals yet i do not see the americans taking say,the german beer festivals and the rosenmontag celebrations and celebrating them in a tackier fashion.

i do live together with other nationalitys- i went to a boarding school for 6 years,the last year in which i boarded.as a result most of the school was foreign,they came from Russia,America,Spain,Germany,France,Italy,South Korea,Japan,England,Northern Irland smile ,Wales,Africa,Sweden and Lanzarote.even the teachers were foreign,the came from Japan,Germany and Northern Ireland.my best friend comes from Georgia in Russia and i miss her very much.I have friends from Germany whom i also miss.of course i had fun with them-i learnt how to dance a spanish dance very badly,learnt to speak a little russia,learnt a lot of german,learnt a japanese dance and quite a bit of the language.in my school it didnt matter who or what you were either,but you didnt get anyone learning something from another country and then claiming it as their own,which is what the americans are doing with irish traditional customs.i wasnt saying to forget about their heritage i am saying americans must have more respect-sure they can come to ireland and celebrate their heritage but they cannot go around claiming halloween and st.paddy's day as an american custom.their arrogance is unreal.of course not all americans are like so,i know some lovely americans,but sadly the general trend isnt so.

i posted this because i was shocked by the arrogance of americans thinking they own all irish customs.