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Saiyan Master Vegeta Vice Captain
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 Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:00 pm
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:35 pm
Thats still not telling me hes that much faster than Superman... Like I said before. While Superman can't move at the speeds himself he can see then and react accordingly.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:14 pm
Enigma Master Andrew Thats still not telling me hes that much faster than Superman... Like I said before. While Superman can't move at the speeds himself he can see then and react accordingly. Um...Veggy has taken a lot of time finding these scans, so let us fairly evaluate this statement, shall we? If he can perceive movements that fast (which I don't think cartoon Supes can, gimme proof.) then it doesn't matter. He cannot move fast enough to counter, or even block. He can know something will happen, but if he cannot perform the proper movements, it is near useless knowledge. Goku wouldn't just do this a few times, this would be multiple barrages of blows.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:19 pm
rikeen90 Enigma Master Andrew Thats still not telling me hes that much faster than Superman... Like I said before. While Superman can't move at the speeds himself he can see then and react accordingly. Um...Veggy has taken a lot of time finding these scans, so let us fairly evaluate this statement, shall we? If he can perceive movements that fast (which I don't think cartoon Supes can, gimme proof.) then it doesn't matter. He cannot move fast enough to counter, or even block. He can know something will happen, but if he cannot perform the proper movements, it is near useless knowledge. Goku wouldn't just do this a few times, this would be multiple barrages of blows. Superman moves faster than Lightning close range. Goku moves twice as fast as that close range. Superman would still be able to react. A baseball moves over three times faster than a human does but they can still see and hit them. Those scans did't really say much more than he can move faster than what humans can see which isn't very much and I'm not buying what your saying at all. I'll provide you proof when you show me something where it clearly states that Goku hit someone over 20 times in less than a second...
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:26 pm
Except there is about 20 yards between you and the baseball. Lol, I'm not completely oblivious. yet...
neways, they are going to be within 1 yard, unless Goku or Supes wears "Sock em' Boppers." Then 2 yards.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:30 pm
Doesn't matter.. Superman would be able to dodge Goku's Ki Blasts without much effort Close range as the battle progresses. I do see Goku getting some good hits in on Superman at the beginning of the fight. However as I'm sure you know Supes is a durable S.O.B And would be able to take not only that hes taken some pretty good a** kicking and got back up from them ready for more. At this point Goku is a little more tired and they start exchanging blows evenly. Superman has got more strength than Goku. ( I have not seen anything believable that would lead me to believe otherwise...) And would eventually wear Goku down.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:37 pm
Lol nice. Um care to give me proof? (Cartoon)
I would have agreed, but this is cartoon Supes.
This statement completely dodges the point.
Goku will always hit, and Supes would not be able to block.
While Goku, will be fast enough to dodge.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:41 pm
Goku gets tired in almost everyfight hes in. Where as I haven't even seen Superman breathing hard. This leads me to strongly believe that Superman has more stamina endurance and durability than Superman. Tho only thing I see Goku really haveing on Superman is speed..What do you require proof of? Strength or Speed?
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:45 pm
Cartoon strength. Speed? I am thoroughly convinced hes much slower. If you wish to disprove, it would help. If not, Supes is getting owned so far. Goku gets tired because he fights worthy opponents, often stronger than him. Not robbers. (I have seen some intense Supes fight, but the cartoon rapes him over) Again, the above is un proveable. Goku may get tired, but I haven't seen his effectiveness decrease as a result. In fact I can only think of it increasing. wahmbulance
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:49 pm
Enigma Master Andrew rikeen90 Enigma Master Andrew Thats still not telling me hes that much faster than Superman... Like I said before. While Superman can't move at the speeds himself he can see then and react accordingly. Um...Veggy has taken a lot of time finding these scans, so let us fairly evaluate this statement, shall we? If he can perceive movements that fast (which I don't think cartoon Supes can, gimme proof.) then it doesn't matter. He cannot move fast enough to counter, or even block. He can know something will happen, but if he cannot perform the proper movements, it is near useless knowledge. Goku wouldn't just do this a few times, this would be multiple barrages of blows. Superman moves faster than Lightning close range. Goku moves twice as fast as that close range. Superman would still be able to react. A baseball moves over three times faster than a human does but they can still see and hit them. Those scans did't really say much more than he can move faster than what humans can see which isn't very much and I'm not buying what your saying at all. I'll provide you proof when you show me something where it clearly states that Goku hit someone over 20 times in less than a second... Please, don't make me laugh. Did you miss the Krillin vs Jackie Chun fight? They exchanged at least 12 blows in that sequence, which mind you took 1/5 of a second. Give them the rest of that second and they would have pulled off approx. 60 hits. And in case you've forgotten, those were Dragonball scans. Meaning someone as weak as Roshi and child Krillin pulled those off. Goku's a friggin' God compared to them. Also, just for fun, let's do a little power level evaluation, shall we? Roshi's power level: 139SSJ Goku's power level: 11,500,000 And the reason why I merely used SSJ Goku was because it's his most recent official power level. I can only imagine what SSJ3 would be like.
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Saiyan Master Vegeta Vice Captain
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Saiyan Master Vegeta Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:50 pm
Enigma Master Andrew Goku gets tired in almost everyfight hes in. Where as I haven't even seen Superman breathing hard. This leads me to strongly believe that Superman has more stamina endurance and durability than Superman. Tho only thing I see Goku really haveing on Superman is speed..What do you require proof of? Strength or Speed? He's got him on strength too. Refer to the top of my Goku write-up.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:57 pm
rikeen90: I already admitted he was slower now didn't I? Superman is doing just fine so far. Yes and are you claiming that Superman isn't a worthy opponent? Superman fights more than just roppers. How is it unproveable? Because Goku has gotten tried during his fights? I'd desperately like to see your proof that Goku's abilities increase when hes tired. That is obserd.. http://youtube.com/watch?v=rY0VNjribyYSaiyan Master Vegeta: See this is the problem with all of Goku's vs All I see is assumptions not only that I see wild calculations of what people think his strenght is and what they assume his speed is clocked at. I've seen no canon proof from the anime that would lead me to believe either..
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:01 pm
rofl rofl rofl
I hope this is a bad joke.
Goku can get in so many hits before Supes can even figure out what's going on, its ridiculous.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:04 pm
rikeen90 rofl rofl rofl I hope this is a bad joke. Goku can get in so many hits before Supes can even figure out what's going on, its ridiculous. Proof? ** Drinks a Sprite** I'm glad to see your getting amusement out of this. I hope your wild assumptions are a bad joke aswell. mrgreen
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:05 pm
Sprite?
*Coughcarbonatedsalivacough*
What would you put Superman's cartoon speed at?
I want you to tell me.
And what would you put his cartoon strength at?
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