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 Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:58 am
*shrugs* sometimes it just happens.
it's not ideal, but in my case, i just found myself in that situation. I mean, I never really thought or cared about it too much, so at the time it didn't matter. It does cause problems though. I mean, what if i get her pregnant? if she's pro choice, isn't that putting my child in danger? She says that she wouldn't do it, of course, but for her, it's still an option, and if circumstances were to put her in a position where she might choose to abort... well... she might choose to abort.
I don't like it, and i really think it has to change for this relationship to work long term, but i'm willing to wait. She's a smart girl, and she'll eventually come around.
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:00 am
Well, you can't let politics get in the way of love... And if you understand why the other side feels the way they do, it's not such a hot issue, I guess. Like for me, I understand why most people are Pro-Choice. I disagree, but I understand. Mostly. And, unless that view starts affecting my life, unless she would get an abortion, I don't see why that view should be a stumbling block. But, honestly, most Pro-Choicers I get along with in any form have turned out to be at least mostly "Pro-Life personal, Pro-Choice political."
Grant you, I'm more likely to marry someone who's Pro-Life, just like I'm more likely to marry someone who's Catholic then someone who's not, simply because our views on everything would be more compatible. But I'm not going to consider Pro-Choicers to be out of the question.
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:34 pm
this is more then an issue of politics though, it's an issue of common sense, intelligence, logic, and most importantly, values. If someone's values are skewed enough for them to even attempt to justify disposing of a human life in the name of convienence, i would hardly consider them date material.
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:35 pm
That's not always how it is, though, for "Pro-Life personal, Pro-Choice political." They are against abortion, they just feel that it should be legal.
Also, I disagree with you. I don't think the values are quite as skewed as you make them out to be. Yes, abortion is an awful thing. However, many of them think of it as a "give me liberty or give me death;" It's better for someone to die then for someone else to be "enslaved." Which, true, it's hardly slavery, but they see it as slavery. And I can see what they are getting at, although I sincerely disagree. As I said, I wouldn't date someone I had any reason to believe would get an abortion.
I also go by the "Love your neighbor as yourself" rule; I wouldn't want someone calling my values skewed because I support the Iraq war, and many Pro-Choicers would see it as the same thing. People die in the war, but I believe that it is right because, in the end, more people will be freed from a malignant dictatorship. So I don't think they're values are skewed, even though they are different.
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:23 am
I don't know if I would date someone who is pro-choice probably not. I wouldn't marry one because they may not have the smae values as I do. But I don't have to worry but abortion because I'm a girl and I want to wait until I'm married before sleeping with them.
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:47 pm
My boyfriend is sort of pro-choice. He doesn't like abortion, but thinks it should be up to the woman. So, since I'm the woman... what I say goes. And I say no abortions, no matter what. xp I would really love it if he were pro-life, who knows, maybe he'll change his mind someday. But I have to accept him for who he is even though I disagree on a couple issues. He's also an agnostic/atheist (unsure of which), and I'm Catholic. But that's a whole other story. gonk Beware the Jabberwock lymelady When does that come up in normal, everyday conversation anyway? "Did you catch the Redskins game last night?" "Yeah, it rocked! Santana Moss FTW!" "I know! I'm pro-life!" "Where the hell did that come from?" That's awesome.
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:34 pm
Chemicat My boyfriend is sort of pro-choice. He doesn't like abortion, but thinks it should be up to the woman. So, since I'm the woman... what I say goes. And I say no abortions, no matter what. xp I would really love it if he were pro-life, who knows, maybe he'll change his mind someday. But I have to accept him for who he is even though I disagree on a couple issues. He's also an agnostic/atheist (unsure of which), and I'm Catholic. But that's a whole other story. gonk I totally hear ya on the Agnostic-Catholic dating thing. wink
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:39 pm
I have no idea how I could date a non-Catholic either. gonk I mean, on one hand, I completely support that type of thing, good on you. But, as a Catholic, we are required to raise our children as Catholics, and how am I supposed to explain to the kids that mommy goes and prances naked in the forest under the full moon? whee
(Slightly-old inside joke. xd )
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:54 pm
I.Am I have no idea how I could date a non-Catholic either. gonk I mean, on one hand, I completely support that type of thing, good on you. But, as a Catholic, we are required to raise our children as Catholics, and how am I supposed to explain to the kids that mommy goes and prances naked in the forest under the full moon? whee (Slightly-old inside joke. xd ) I kinda lucked out I guess. It's kinda funny...he's not so set in his beliefs to believe anything to be absolute truth. I guess..."non-spiritual" is the most accurate term because faith and God is just something he never really thinks about. So he knows what I need to do and he's cool with that. He's agreed to help (because he is educated on the subject partially because we went through the same catholic high school))...as long as I don't turn the kids against him or something... whee
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:05 am
I.Am I have no idea how I could date a non-Catholic either. gonk I mean, on one hand, I completely support that type of thing, good on you. But, as a Catholic, we are required to raise our children as Catholics, and how am I supposed to explain to the kids that mommy goes and prances naked in the forest under the full moon? whee (Slightly-old inside joke. xd ) Miranda wouldn't want to date you any ways Andy. Sucha thing would cause her very existence to implode.
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:41 pm
I.Am how am I supposed to explain to the kids that mommy goes and prances naked in the forest under the full moon? whee If god had wanted us to be naked we'd have been born that way! scream Hell, you could have been referring to me. Not that I do that. Not any time soon will I be prancing sans brassiere. o_O Yeesh, it hurts just to write that.
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:38 pm
i don't think religion has much to do wityh love... it should be a connection of the soul. i honestly believe that love, true love, is the only thing more powerful than God.
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:54 pm
God -is- love.
At any rate, considering that the soul is the center of religion, if love is a connection of two souls, then it is a most religious thing indeed.
And disregarding that, my reason for being wary of inter-religious relationships had nothing to do with love and everything to do with children, and how you raise them. How can you tell your kids, "I'm right, mommy's wrong," or vice versa? It would divide loyalties. And considering that all religions teach that you should raise your children up into the same religion, it stresses the family bonds even more.
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:30 am
La Veuve Zin I.Am how am I supposed to explain to the kids that mommy goes and prances naked in the forest under the full moon? whee If god had wanted us to be naked we'd have been born that way! scream Hell, you could have been referring to me. Not that I do that. Not any time soon will I be prancing sans brassiere. o_O Yeesh, it hurts just to write that.
I love you, Andy! MARRY ME! <33
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