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| What do you think Of Wicca? |
| It is a Christan religion |
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11% |
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| It is a Satanic religion |
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| Total Votes : 51 |
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 Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:32 am
All of your first posts are beyond false . . . Wiccans CAN NOT be Christians . . . Wicca is a COMPLETELY SEPARATE RELIGION. Wicca has it's own gods, it's own rules and it's own laws (161 of them to be exact) Wicca is not all about "white magic" because magic doesn't have a color association. . . Reading a books by authors you pick off the shelf at Barns&Noble doesn't make you Wiccan.
You have to be initiated into the mysteries . . . anyone who tells you otherwise; doesn't know what their talking about. FOR FULL ACTUALL INFORMATION ON REAL WICCA . . . The good and the bad please refer to
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/morality-and-religion/wiccan-faq-profit/t.22819829/
This is your complete guide to Wicca from people who are actually apart of the Wica (The Clergy).
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:54 pm
You said that Wiccas believe in Christ, and I believe you as you are Wiccan.
But to be Christian you have to do more then just believe in his existence.
The truth of the matter is that even the Devil and his Angels believe in Christ. They know he exists. Just knowing that Christ was alive and walked this earth, doesn't make you a Christian. Most people believe that Christ did exist. There are accounts upon account upon accounts of that time that mention him in their writings; even in non-Christian writings. That is not in debate. Most people who have read on old early writings believe that Christ llved and walked on earth. The difference is that we, as Christians believe that Christ is the Son of God. That Christ is the Messiah. That Christ is LORD.
The other side of it is, Christians are called to 1. Be more like Christ.
2. Worship the God of the Old Testament.
3. In Christianity we believe there is only one God. There is not other gods or godesses as your proclaim in your first post. There is only one God. As Christians we are monotheistic.
Christianity and Wicca are two completely seperate religions. They have nothing to do with each other and they base themselves on completely different things.
I honestly don't know that much about Wicca, I will admit; but from what I do know... I believe that you can not be both without a confliction of believes.
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High-functioning Detective
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:03 pm
Ok let me take this in parts, you claim:
Hear this first and foremost, WICCA'S ARE CHRISTAN, THEY BELIEVE IN CHRIST!!!!!! There are some Wiccan's who believe in the Goddess also, depending on who you are talking to though it differs. I believe there is a Goddess because our whole world revolves around male and female, wouldn't make sense not to believe in the two. However I believe in the Goddess second, kind of like a Saint, like the Catholics. (Can't spell it, don't care to know how) It is true that Wiccan's are a cult, but so is Christianity. Wicca is not occultic!!!
*Let's look at the definition of a Christian: is a person who adheres to Christianity, a monotheistic[1] religion centered on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ as presented in the New Testament.[2] (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian) Notice it says monotheistic, which means belief in one God. Wicca is the belief or the practice of worship of more than one god/goddess.
*Also not all wiccans believe in Jesus, actually many do not. It depends on the covenant or the individual since there are a large number of individual worshipers it varies. Believing in Jesus and worshipping other gods is contrary to Jesus’ teachings.
*Watch the catholic faith as a Christian source. I was raised Catholic and was Catholic till I was 14 when I started dabbling in Wicca, (then became a full blown atheist). Catholics pray to Mary and the saints. True Christians pray to God or Jesus since they are both part of the trinity (which you may have confused with polytheism) you are praying to the same being.
*The reason you see male and female in nature is because God made them to complement each other. Genesis states that.
*Wicca is an occult art (occult means hidden or secret), because it is done in secret.
Ok next part…
It is true that Wiccan's perform spells, mediate, and burn incense, but they don't not shed their own blood or perform sacrifices, it is against our laws. Spells are not really spells, they are illusions, parlor tricks if you will, everything we do is mind over matter. If anyone belielves in something without a doubt, it will happen. Like those damn medical miracle stories. There is nothing wrong with meditating, it is simply reaching within yourself for answers and to relax. Insence is just another way to relax and help you focus.
*The first two sentences are true. The third is false, I can believe till I’m blue in the face that the sun is gonna be green tomorrow, but it won’t. Not just because I wish it to, but because it is what’s in God’s plan, which is perfect. You are right nothing is wrong with meditating or incense, Christians use both of these. Meditation is a great way to wait on God. Just sit and relax and listen for His voice, or meditate on scripture.
Another part…
Wicca's came first, before Witches. We were just a secret, we remained a secret. So guy who said we were only 50 years old, you are wrong. Witches are the ones who took what we did and ignored our laws and take full consequense and really not caring.
*Wicca is a new religion, paganism is not. Wicca is a form of paganism, like Druidism is a form of paganism. Wicca is not alone in the world of pagan religions, but it is the newest. It’s a cold hard fact that it originated in the 1950‘s, it has been proved, recorded and sited. If ya don't believe me wikipedia it. How Wicca differs is that it is a more user friendly version of paganism. You can add whatever gods and goddesses that you want, you can pick and choose how to perform your rituals, and you don’t sacrifice animals or people. It is a self-service religion.
Again let me clear something up, WITCHES AND WICCA'S ARE TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE!!! Witches are the ones who say, "******** those damn christens, and perform curses and hexes on people." Wicca's are the ones who know the laws and do not break them and if they do they ask for forgiveness, FROM GOD!!! In short, Witches bad, Wicca's good.
*Wiccans call themselves witches. They are people, like you said, I doubt anyone here thinks wiccans are deranged.
The stuff you are dealing with is more dangerous then you know. It seems harmless, maybe it seems to help you. For me it made my heart open to such unmentionable things, things I would never dream of doing today, if you know anything about the group rituals you will know what I mean.
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:36 pm
The above post has lost nearly all credibility simply by using Wikipedia as a source. Wikipedia is not a valid source!!!!!
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:31 pm
lordstar The above post has lost nearly all credibility simply by using Wikipedia as a source. Wikipedia is not a valid source!!!!! What credibility do you have to say so?
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:18 am
Dreaming Beyond Hope Christianity and Wicca are two completely seperate religions. They have nothing to do with each other and they base themselves on completely different things. I honestly don't know that much about Wicca, I will admit; but from what I do know... I believe that you can not be both without a confliction of believes. Speaking as a Wiccan I will say that you are absolutely correct. Wicca is a vastly different and completely separate religion from Christianity. I agree that one can be one or the other, but not both. Actually the OP in this thread finally figured that out and left the thread a long time ago so the continued responses to her are rather pointless at this point.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:59 pm
Incarcerated_love lordstar The above post has lost nearly all credibility simply by using Wikipedia as a source. Wikipedia is not a valid source!!!!! What credibility do you have to say so? Anyone can edit Wikipedia...even me I could say that it would be possible to suck vodka through a 30ft straw (vertically) if your face didn't implode first. And it would be added!!! Think about it nah nah nah nah (credibility? I just couldn't help myself but to return your taunts) logic rules
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:31 pm
lordstar Incarcerated_love lordstar The above post has lost nearly all credibility simply by using Wikipedia as a source. Wikipedia is not a valid source!!!!! What credibility do you have to say so? Anyone can edit Wikipedia...even me I could say that it would be possible to suck vodka through a 30ft straw (vertically) if your face didn't implode first. And it would be added!!! Think about it logic rules While Wikipedia isn't a reliable source, it does not mean that credibility of the argument is lost because of it. Instead of addressing what was said, you insult and demean her for using Wikipedia. Look at the statement that was cited, it is similar to what you'd find in any reliable credible sources. Would you address what she posted if I posted a statement that was similar but from a reputable source? Christian a person who believes in Jesus Christ; adherent of Christianity. "Christian." Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Random House, Inc. 29 Nov. 2007. .Christianity a monotheistic system of beliefs and practices based on the Old Testament and the teachings of Jesus as embodied in the New Testament and emphasizing the role of Jesus as savior "Christianity." WordNet® 3.0. Princeton University. 29 Nov. 2007.
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:57 pm
Seraph68 lordstar Incarcerated_love lordstar The above post has lost nearly all credibility simply by using Wikipedia as a source. Wikipedia is not a valid source!!!!! What credibility do you have to say so? Anyone can edit Wikipedia...even me I could say that it would be possible to suck vodka through a 30ft straw (vertically) if your face didn't implode first. And it would be added!!! Think about it logic rules While Wikipedia isn't a reliable source, it does not mean that credibility of the argument is lost because of it. Instead of addressing what was said, you insult and demean her for using Wikipedia. Look at the statement that was cited, it is similar to what you'd find in any reliable credible sources. Would you address what she posted if I posted a statement that was similar but from a reputable source? Christian a person who believes in Jesus Christ; adherent of Christianity. "Christian." Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Random House, Inc. 29 Nov. 2007. .Christianity a monotheistic system of beliefs and practices based on the Old Testament and the teachings of Jesus as embodied in the New Testament and emphasizing the role of Jesus as savior "Christianity." WordNet® 3.0. Princeton University. 29 Nov. 2007. Don't be silly. I didn't say she was wrong, however I did point out that Wiki is not a creditable source. If she had quoted nothing I would have been fine in this case. I did not attack the person but rather source. FYI, your web links should be only 1 click between your works cited and the information quoted. (Yours took a bit longer to find) And a bible dictionary would be considered just a bit bias on this topic I find it odd that no one is challenging my vodka statement
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:29 am
Vodka can be sucked through a 30-ft straw quite easily, because its density is less than that of water. Density has a direct impact on how tall a column can be withheld. Water can only go to about 30 ft, mercury can only go to about 29 inches, therefore "heavier" densities have shorter distances. Therefore, since vodka has a "lighter" density than water, it would be fairly easy to sustain a column 30 feet high. It's basically physics and chemistry.
Wicca is not Christianity. Wiccans worship the creation, when they should be worshipping the Creator. The Wiccan god is not God, partially because God (YHWH) detests witchcraft (1 Samuel 15:23; 2 Chronicles 33:6, 9; Micah 5:12; Nahum 3:4-6; Galations 5:19-21), and partially because Wicca is a polytheistic religion, having a male god (the moon) and a female goddess (the earth). The Wiccan god is impersonal, whereas YHWH God desires a direct, personal relationship with Him (Leviticus 26:11-12;1 Kings 6:13; 2 Chronicles 7:13-14 {"seek my face"}; Psalm 78:1; Isaiah 52:6; et. al.). The core of Wicca is this: the desire to be as great or greater than YHWH God, which is in direct opposition with the first two commandments. By glorifying the creation and not the Creator, they have put themselves into the position where they make their own rules. YHWH God has said many times "I AM the Lord your God" and "The Lord your God, the Lord is One."
It is not true that Christianity is a cult; Christianity began as a sect of Judaism, much like Lutheranism or Baptists are sects of Christianity. It is also not true that Wicca is a cult; Why So Many Gods (pages 219-224), the book I used for much of my information, places Wicca in the "Occult" section. "Cult", by definition, is "a religion that is considered to be unorthodox or a little deviant", whereas "occult" is defined as "something that involves the supernatural in a secret way".
It's a good and informative book. I encourage everyone to read it.
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:49 am
about your poll option. wicca has got nothing to do with satanism ..
and i thought the bible says we are forbidden from using magic..hmmm
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:25 pm
rillegas08 Vodka can be sucked through a 30-ft straw quite easily, because its density is less than that of water. Density has a direct impact on how tall a column can be withheld. Water can only go to about 30 ft, mercury can only go to about 29 inches, therefore "heavier" densities have shorter distances. Therefore, since vodka has a "lighter" density than water, it would be fairly easy to sustain a column 30 feet high. It's basically physics and chemistry. Snap. You got F****d up. Sorry, I find it ironic that your example of a false fact turned out to be a fact.
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:26 pm
No place like 127 0 0 1 about your poll option. wicca has got nothing to do with satanism .. and i thought the bible says we are forbidden from using magic..hmmm Magic to control others, yes. Or women who practice sorcery. But I disagree with the latter, especially if you consider alchemy to be sorcery. Several important alchemists were women.
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:41 am
Ace_Of_Swords This is how me and my coven practice Wicca, God people just get over it. You have a problem with it that's fine, but keep it to yourselves. This is annoying as hell. Hey, you brought it into the forums. Don't post something that you don't want others to respond to.
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:46 pm
Whats your coven, lineage, and how old are you?
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