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 Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:04 pm
Manic Martini Meanwhile, has anyone heard the OST on this thing? ******** Amazing. By far the best done in the series. The Love that Lasts the Longest...  Say something new!
I have nothing left...
I can't face the DARK without you!
Oh hell yeah. (Obligatory I~Because~ kicks a** post) ...on the other hand "Crossroads" is fairly "meh" for the recruitment theme. (FYI: This Youtube Channel has the OST, for those who haven't heard it, but want to.) (On a note: Nintendo of Japan states Awakening is "FE14". What's FE13 (No need to ask about 11/12 (the remakes count towards number))? Might be BS FE. It might be some super-secret WiiU project. They might just be trollin'. Who knows. Either way I'm going to call it FE:A anyways.) There's nothing left to lose..!
The fight never ends!!
I can't face the DARK without you! ...Is the One that can never be.
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:20 pm
Just wanted to make a few comments about what happened recently (And I apologize if it sounds like I'm bringing in the rage, but I rarely have time to respond due to work.)
I agreed with FD about Mickey's class. Even though I don't like her outfit (still looks like she's cosplaying than having her own outfit), at least there's an understanding why she's been reclassed. I'm upset that there's no light user in the game but we were pretty okay about some classes got cut out like how Path of Radiance don't have Dark users until being added in the sequel. And even though she's been changed from Light user to Dark user, at least she's in Magic user category.
Now Eirika, I'm not happy about the class. To me, I feel like they have given her a complete makeover to become a new person instead of the character we are familiar with. I understand that her original class is Lord, but we can see well that she is a sword user in the Melee Category. The Bride class.... I still feel it's a Magic or Support (aka: bard, dancer, heron) category than Melee Category. And even though Airship Canon stated what sort of weapons the Bride uses, it is what he stated: it is a rumor. So there's no telling what weapons the Bride wields. ((And Lyre/Eirika: Although I still prefer her class to be sword-related class, I agree with you that she's not a fighter. However, I see more than "just a princess." She's more of a supported person whose gives a person a shoulder or a helping hand. And although I stated earlier that the Bride looks like either Magic or Support unit, I still feel that the class is not suitable to Eirika. As I said, the reclass of Eirika makes me feel like she's OOC.))
I also agree with Tiki and Melethia about the females' artwork. I feel like the DLC women are being degraded, both by what they appeared and their personality to match with the class.
I would say more, but I'm too tired from work and I can't think fuctionally well. Again, apologies if it seems I'm bringing the rage.
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:48 am
Here's hoping the game gets an official release sometime tomorrow~ >w<
...If not, then s**t will be thrown around while I screech like a dying hawk. XD
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:09 pm
I would point out that if the class is Sword/Bow/Staff for weapon types to use, that IS more of a fighter than a support character. A lot of classes are mixing staves with melee weapons in this game (Trickster, Falcon Knight, Battle Monk/Cleric, etc...). Reason I would emphasize that it most likely is NOT much of a support character, or rather, than it definitely has the option to be a fighter, is that it's a female only counterpart to the male-exclusive class Demon Fighter, which got Sword/Axe/Tome -two physical weapon types and something dependent on magic, same layout as Bride. It's really too soon to be upset about the class being a supporter rather than a fighter.
And apparently Dark Magic is quite good, too. So much so that the Sorcerer class promoted from Dark Mage doesn't get staves or anything else upon promotion in exchange for being the only promoted class to have access to it (Access to Nosferatu style spells, a tome with literally 50 crit on it, etc...). Micaiah has a fairly exclusive skill that lets her use Dark Magic in any class, which is a HUGE boon for her.
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:33 pm
True FD. It is too soon to assume what weapons the Bride class will become. However, it still irks me by the name of the class. >.< If it's a counterpart of the Demon Fighter, they should have chosen a better name than Bride.
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:57 pm
Wrath_of_Bahamut Here's hoping the game gets an official release sometime tomorrow~ >w< ...If not, then s**t will be thrown around while I screech like a dying hawk. XD The Love that Lasts the Longest... Say something new!
I have nothing left...
I can't face the DARK without you!
Probably will during the 3DS conference. Today was Wii U + a tiny bit of 3DS (Like, ahem, Mario.) As far as it goes for that Bride Class: I'm refraining from opinionating until it's out. Then I'll base my opinion on it based on gameplay alone: AKA What can the class do- Weapons, Skills, Stat Caps (FEA- like FE8, is a game of Caps, not of averages). On another thought, I think I know what I'm gonna spam- Ruin on a Sage. Miccy can do this as-is, if you look at it, a well set up Inverse!Mark should be able to as well. Me from GameFAQs One'd think that if we can get some Dark Blessing out there- assumedly thru Inverse + MU for DB Mark- that way it could get the Crazy auto crits from Ruin + Skills on a Sage- who have a higher MAG Cap anyways. Mark Sage Skills: Dark Blessing Wrath Vantage Vengeance Dual Support + MU (Support) (Best MAG, Worst DEF) (Whatever Class) Rainbow Cry Magic Cry Magic Square Crimson Curse -Whatever- As Inverse's Modifiers are unknown, I'm throwing 0s for everything in my calculations-- Mark'd have 51 MAG, 44 SKL Add in the Cries and a Tiki's Tears: 61 MAG, 50 SKL Using a MT-focus Forged Ruin: 9MT 50 Crit He's waving around 70 ATK and is got a ludicrous chance to crit-- this is assuming you don't add in another unit (Another Sage for Double purposes) into the mix for more +MAG and +SKL. Glass Cannon auto-turret FTW? (Slightly edited because I originally had thought you can forge 15 more crit on to Ruin, because I'm going by numbers from SF) Hypothetically, there's a character who can fire off attacks that are as hard hitting as FE4!Alvis, but they're critting all the damn time. Hot damn. Miccy under the way things stand, can't be as crazy (due to not being able to support), but she can get close. There's nothing left to lose..!
The fight never ends!!
I can't face the DARK without you! ...Is the One that can never be.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:19 am
Well, while DLC units can't support, what they lose out from supports can be somewhat alleviated, I'm thinking. I would imagine the Valkyrie skill Dual Support+ would apply to them, for example, which would be a pseudo S-Rank rank for stat boosts. Not sure if this stacks if both people have it, but if it does, that's 20 hit and avoid and 15 crit between any two units with access to the skill (which would be all DLC units).
Meanwhile, Dual Attack and Dual Guard would hypothetically have the lowest activation rates with no supports, but at max stats they'd still activate frequently enough, and could be further augmented by Dual Attack+ and Dual Guard+ to what I imagine are perfectly acceptable levels. For the sake of simplicity, let's suppose two DLC units have a total of 80 Skill together for (80/4)+20 yielding a 40% activation rate for Dual Attacks. An S Rank support yields double that if not more, but 40% is still not too shabby. That's not considering you pair a DLC unit with a Lord for Dual Attack+, either. The difference in activation for Dual Attacks is much higher than than for Dual Guard, too, where an S Rank support would only provide a 10% higher activation rate that becomes even less impressive when you consider Dual Guard+ and how many units have access to it. At worst, their supplemental defense from Dual Guard is just 10% lower while their attack might well be high enough for Dual Attack's more noticably lower activation rate not to matter too much. Actual Support bonuses can be made up for with Dual Support+.
The sheer variety of insane combinations you can pull off with MU, and even more so with Mark, is simply astounding though, yes. Not sure how much fun grinding for max caps for DLC maps and such will be though (it looks like it could potentially be boringly repetitive, possibly? Much like how I don't usually pursue FE8's postgame very much. Like, sure I have an FE8 file with maxed out characters and Lyon, but it sits there now), so I'll probably have one save file for that purpose and use others for playthroughs devoted to being playthroughs.
How would Mark get Dark Blessing, though? I understand Inverse can be recruitable through SpotPass but I don't think she's breedable.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:24 am
Manic Martini How would Mark get Dark Blessing, though? I understand Inverse can be recruitable through SpotPass but I don't think she's breedable. The Love that Lasts the Longest... Say something new!
I have nothing left...
I can't face the DARK without you!
The Bonus Units are breedable, but only with MU-- as already seen with Gangrel, Valhart (Conqueror!Mark (The Overlord Class does not pass on though)), and Emelina.
This naturally will include the yet-to come Rehna, Inverse, and Paris.
BTW: Just another crazy number:
Highest Possible SKL on a single character at once: Ronku x Tiamo/Soriee/Velvet... then MU (Appropriate Gender, Best: Skill, Worst: Defense) x The result of the former, for a +10 Modifier...
Throw that on an Assassin
58 SKL
Add in Rainbow/Skill Cry: 66 SKL
Tiki's Tears/Skill Potion: 68 SKL
+2 SKL Skill: 70 SKL
+2 ALL Skill: 72 SKL
Equipped with Demon Mystletainn: 77 SKL
+ A/S Rank Support with a Doubled ...Hero or Sniper with more than 30 SKL: 85 Total SKL
(Of note, that'd be like... 21% chance for Silencer/Lethality, so outside of having a lovely bonus to Crit, this is utterly useless. But it'll never miss...)
Of course, the "Broken Build of being Broken" is a simple MU/Mark:
Sorcerer
Sword Slayer
Axe Slayer
Lance Slayer
Bow Slayer
Tome Slayer
Equip: Inverse's Darkness (when available) or Nosferatu.
That's the "Boring but Practical Option" to beat everything..*Hopes the Slayer skills get nerfbat on localizations*
There's nothing left to lose..!
The fight never ends!!
I can't face the DARK without you! ...Is the One that can never be.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:19 am
Airship Canon Manic Martini How would Mark get Dark Blessing, though? I understand Inverse can be recruitable through SpotPass but I don't think she's breedable. The Bonus Units are breedable, but only with MU-- as already seen with Gangrel, Valhart (Conqueror!Mark (The Overlord Class does not pass on though)), and Emelina. This naturally will include the yet-to come Rehna, Inverse, and Paris. Now you guys made me think that Fire Emblem is stepping into Pokemon territory. Capture Recruit units and breed them... .__.;
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:03 pm
The Love that Lasts the Longest... Say something new!
I have nothing left...
I can't face the DARK without you!
Anyone got a mob? I said something about that being more handy? (Never mind, hold the mob. IGN and Kotaku confirming US release of FEA, despite the lack of it being at the conference.) There's nothing left to lose..!
The fight never ends!!
I can't face the DARK without you! ...Is the One that can never be.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:21 pm
Quote: We are excited to confirm a NEW game announcement coming to the US: the new 3DS Fire Emblem! More info to come. — Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) Don't use twitter, but that was an official tweet. Kinda POed that Nintendo couldn't even be bothered to give Fire Emblem an official nod, but oh well, as long as the game comes out, I can get over the whole Quote: Mario Disney Luigi More Mario Poké— WAIT LOOK YOU CAN DOWNLOAD GAMES HOLY CRAP okay Pok— WAIT STOP THREEIDIOTS IS FUNNY RIGHT Pokémon B2W2 is gonna be gr— LOOK!!!!! AT THIS!!!!! MARIO GAME!!!!! THIS GAME IS SO GREAT IT HAS MARIO AND IS GREAT FUN BECAUSE MARIO MARIO mario MARIO and no Fire Emblem for you bye
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:32 pm
...........Am I really the only person on the face of Earth who listened to what Mr. Stern Face guy was saying? He said they were continuing tomorrow. I'm PRETTY sure. But now that everyone else has seemed to not have heard it, I'm starting to think I'm crazy!
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:49 pm
Wrath_of_Bahamut Quote: We are excited to confirm a NEW game announcement coming to the US: the new 3DS Fire Emblem! More info to come. — Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) Don't use twitter, but that was an official tweet. Kinda POed that Nintendo couldn't even be bothered to give Fire Emblem an official nod, but oh well, as long as the game comes out, I can get over the whole Quote: Mario Disney Luigi More Mario Poké— WAIT LOOK YOU CAN DOWNLOAD GAMES HOLY CRAP okay Pok— WAIT STOP THREEIDIOTS IS FUNNY RIGHT Pokémon B2W2 is gonna be gr— LOOK!!!!! AT THIS!!!!! MARIO GAME!!!!! THIS GAME IS SO GREAT IT HAS MARIO AND IS GREAT FUN BECAUSE MARIO MARIO mario MARIO and no Fire Emblem for you bye The Love that Lasts the Longest... Say something new!
I have nothing left...
I can't face the DARK without you!
Seems like they were avoiding it on purpose... which may be plausible for a few reasons-- 1. It's (most likely) a 2013 game-- given the amount of time they'll spend localizing it (FYI: FEA *is* bigger than Radiant Dawn, by quite a bit.) this is understandable, however, it missing the Christmas Rush is regrettable sales wise. 2. RPGs aren't too hot in America it seems (actually, that's because most RPGs that get released recently are... bad), Nintendo isn't Square, and E3 is for the investors, not fans-- they'll make more money off said investors from hyping Mario than FE. 3. (This is a bit of a crack response, admittedly)-- they may be trying to keep FEA on the low somewhat, namely *not* attract the attention of the moral guardians: given, this game won't break a T-rating (I'd say E10)... they've got a fairly wide market with that-- but one concerned mother catches wind of the pairing system (and heaven forbid an early shot at Nono (before they've figured out how to Bowlderize her into oblivion-- which I hope they won't, but god knows they will) wink ... and it can all blow up- and that's bad publicity (Oh look! Nintendo makes ***** seem good in new game!)... that'd hurt sales. (Or it may raise them thru reverse psychology/that innate want to do taboo things, who knows?) Now for some discussion of the DLCBride Class Weaponry: LANCE, Bow, Staff (The last combination needed: Bow + Tomes... that bodes well for a Master Knight to return (as the final super class)... Master Knight: Swords, Lances, Axes, Bows, Tomes, Staves) Skills are L1: Love Cry +1 Move +2 Everything Else (Oh god... another Cry Skill. Something rocking this means upwards of +10 Stats from Cries) L15: Bonds. (AKA Blessing from FE10, ya know the the Heal Adjacent units on start of turn that Herons have) 3-range AoE Heal at the start of turn (Blessing +?) Further Intel: Bride >> Grandmaster in terms of stats (Turned out to be bases)... and Eirika has flashy animations. >_> (Yay for being implausible... haha) (Also: There's the Lance Footie everyone wanted razz ... I'm sure, considering any female can be a bride, one could work up a good Combat build for 'er. *Sets off to theorycraft a Lance-master Bride Lucina*) Bride Class Caps: HP: 80 STR: 40 MAG: 39 SKL: 42 SPD: 42 LCK: 45 DEF: 41 RES: 40 (If those aren't "Combat Unit" enough stats for yah... >_>) Tiamo as a Bride, looks kick a** enough.FE8 Spotpass Team: Ephraim (Great Knight) Eirika (Bride) L'Arachel (Battle Cleric) Amelia (General) Innes (Sniper) Moulder (Battle Monk) Lute (Sage) Marisa (Swordmaster) Lyon (Sorcerer) *Smiles at General Amelia* *Laughs at Lack of Seth* *Flat What at L'Arachel being a Battle Cleric rather than a Troubadour/Valkyrie* FE7 Spotpass Team: Eliwood (Paladin) Lyn (SWORDMASTER)Hector (General) Serra (Battle Cleric) Nino (Sage) Florina (Falcoknight) Jaffar (Assassin) Karel (Swordmaster) Matthew (Assassin) Nergal (Sorcerer) Hey, Nino is in it! (Take that speed-players) There's nothing left to lose..!
The fight never ends!!
I can't face the DARK without you! ...Is the One that can never be.
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:34 am
The Love that Lasts the Longest... Say something new!
I have nothing left...
I can't face the DARK without you!
"Lance Master Lucina"
Class: Bride
Parents:
Krom + Olivia (Nothing matters for passing on, of course this is the case with EVERY Olivia!Lucina ever)
(10)Lord > Myrmidon (Vantage) (10) >> Swordmaster (Astra) (10) > Falcoknight (Lance Expert)(15) >> Bride(30)
Skills:
Aether
Royal Weapon
Vantage
Astra
Lance Expert
*Nods* Combat Bride is ago.
Of course, Bride adds nothing to that build, 'cept more reliable range 2 options or off-healing.
A MU-using build with it would make her very, very dangerous- in the idea that she could hit a lot harder in the right conditions, given the even STR/MAG of the Bride- replacing the Vantage with Magnificent Flame from a Grandmaster... Or one could do that with a FeMark.
"Married-to-War Eirika"
Eirika doesn't have Aether, but can access All Female Classes, so she can gain Magnificent Flame herself... and she can score a Weapon Saver (which add in a support unit rocking Luck Cry means she'll NEVER break [your choice of Legendary Weapon here])
Bride (??) > Mercenary (Weapon Saver) (10) > Myrmidon (Vantage) (10) >> Swordmaster (Astra) (10) > Falcoknight (Lance Expert) (15) > Grandmaster (Magnificent Flame) (10) >> Bride (30)
Weapon Saver
Magnificent Flame
Astra
Vantage
Lance Expert
Equip her with a Gradvius(2 Range/Elixir) or Heaven Lance Gungnir (+5 STR), and never have to worry about it breaking. And hello... Magnificent Flame (Enemy is nuked)
Any given way... 3 weapon Lance footie. Nice
Support Bride is gonna be the more common build thanks to being a Cry Bot with better stats than Grandmaster. But Combat Bride isn't implausible. Giving her MFlame makes her into a person of mass destruction.
There's nothing left to lose..!
The fight never ends!!
I can't face the DARK without you! ...Is the One that can never be.
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:44 am
Nomad Rath ...........Am I really the only person on the face of Earth who listened to what Mr. Stern Face guy was saying? He said they were continuing tomorrow. I'm PRETTY sure. But now that everyone else has seemed to not have heard it, I'm starting to think I'm crazy! I do believe he was talking about E3........you're going crazy.......
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