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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:49 pm
Amensu Saje What can you not see? THE PERSON SITTING AT THE COMPUTER WORKING IT. That's fact. Nobody can deny it.

Yes we can.
Joshua Huff.
Or Riley Huff.
The name on photobucket and facebook are different.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:50 pm
Amensu Saje Arisa Takera Then I suppose all that stuff about me being the only person you would trust to keep GZ going was a big fat lie then :/ And I may be stubborn but I'm not bull headed and I wasn't trying to get everything my way. YOU are the one who wants everything YOUR way. I wanted to change GZ for the better. I wanted to make the magazine everything the it could and would and should have been but you wouldn't let me. You wanted everything to stay the same which is NOT positive production. You even said it yourself in your little BS contract "you're gonna be the captain but you still have to run EVERYTHING by me first". That... is NOT me being captain. That is you trying to run things while supposedly taking a break from Gaia It was true until you started giving big problems (before I did anything with a contract). You started sounded too ambitious and I started to fear that you would end up completely putting me out of Gaia-zine or something. I decided I wasn't entirely sure if I could trust you or not. You don't trust me either, so don't worry about if I trust you or not. At least we know where we stand. Not everything. Just big important changes that could possibly change the direction of Gaia-zine or could possibly turn out badly and destroy it. Well none of that matters now does it? You'll get to witness all of my "overly ambitious" plans manifested in My Gaia. You can watch the success Gaia-zine could have had under my leadership
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:53 pm
-Candii_Sweet- Skye Reisato Amensu Saje I wasn't intentionally trying to look like Meji at all... On the next page: Amensu Saje I did like his art and I wanted something somewhat similar. I did not intend for it to come out so similar, though What can you not see? THE PERSON SITTING AT THE COMPUTER WORKING IT. That's fact. Nobody can deny it.

Yes we can.
Joshua Huff.
Or Riley Huff.
The name on photobucket and facebook are different.*tip*
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:01 pm
-Candii_Sweet- Amensu Saje What can you not see? THE PERSON SITTING AT THE COMPUTER WORKING IT. That's fact. Nobody can deny it.

Yes we can.
Joshua Huff.
Or Riley Huff.
The name on photobucket and facebook are different.Haha! Stalker! ninja That's not how I look anymore. Lol. x) And you're bright one. That names on photobucket and facebook aren't different... They're the same. Lol.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:03 pm
Arisa Takera Amensu Saje Arisa Takera Then I suppose all that stuff about me being the only person you would trust to keep GZ going was a big fat lie then :/ And I may be stubborn but I'm not bull headed and I wasn't trying to get everything my way. YOU are the one who wants everything YOUR way. I wanted to change GZ for the better. I wanted to make the magazine everything the it could and would and should have been but you wouldn't let me. You wanted everything to stay the same which is NOT positive production. You even said it yourself in your little BS contract "you're gonna be the captain but you still have to run EVERYTHING by me first". That... is NOT me being captain. That is you trying to run things while supposedly taking a break from Gaia It was true until you started giving big problems (before I did anything with a contract). You started sounded too ambitious and I started to fear that you would end up completely putting me out of Gaia-zine or something. I decided I wasn't entirely sure if I could trust you or not. You don't trust me either, so don't worry about if I trust you or not. At least we know where we stand. Not everything. Just big important changes that could possibly change the direction of Gaia-zine or could possibly turn out badly and destroy it. Well none of that matters now does it? You'll get to witness all of my "overly ambitious" plans manifested in My Gaia. You can watch the success Gaia-zine could have had under my leadership And I hope that's true. I wish you guys nothing but the best. As I've said before, my personal feelings towards you will not judge what my hopes for the guild as a whole are.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:04 pm
Amensu Saje -Candii_Sweet- Amensu Saje What can you not see? THE PERSON SITTING AT THE COMPUTER WORKING IT. That's fact. Nobody can deny it.

Yes we can.
Joshua Huff.
Or Riley Huff.
The name on photobucket and facebook are different.Haha! Stalker! ninja That's not how I look anymore. Lol. x) And you're bright one. That names on photobucket and facebook aren't different... They're the same. Lol. 
Well you still look like a tool.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:09 pm
Some things are impossible for humans. A crazy, destructive person with access to a lot of important information and no motive could do it, yes. How likely is that? I meant, babysitting GZ while you repay the money. Checking up on Gz Secretary to make sure you don't take more. Giving you little things to help you regain my trust. Excuse me. If I ripped something apart, it was the shell covering GZ rotting away. Six million gold got taken from the guild. That's not 'recovering.' By 'hacked,' I meant your account was compromised. Essentially what you said happened, someone else had access to it. Although, come to think of it, I heard rumors that your account was hacked a while ago. But, they were unverified, and aren't important to this discussion anyway. There's this group of mystery writers I heard of. They've made a promise to never have an insane person be the murderer, because then the reader can never solve the book. Do you realize that's what you've done? You said there's who's systematically, destructively taken money for no reason. What kind of a motive is that? You thought you refunded the gold, but you actually didn't. Then you said you had. Even if you didn't intend to, that sounds an awful lot like lying. You'll forgive me for making certain assumptions, such as that you were telling the truth. If those assumptions were wrong, I am, of course, not as smart as I thought. Have you really explained it a hundred times. Because what I've seen most often from you is, "I've already explained it. No one believes me." Even on the first day. It doesn't matter. Don't feel any need to reply to this one, as I've no way of telling if you have said it a hundred times. The reason no one believes you is because there is a who, what, where, when, how, and why, (You, embezzling, Gaia, Jan. '10-Dec. '11, trades, and for money) all evidence-based, against you. There is a vague who, a what, a where, no when, an improbable how, and no why at all, none of which have anything more than you saying so. (A 'friend,' embezzling, Gaia, none, trades, and for 'a joke.') And you have a past record of lying. The Bloodstone Amulets, for instance. Even if it wasn't intentional. Stealing Meji's art, if not his outright avatar. An artist came forward, and said that you had directed her to: Make everything as close to the ones Arisa made as possible without actually seeming to have stole Arisa's graphics. We don't need any trouble there but we do need to keep graphics that look a lot like those.It's evidence vs. your not-too-dependable word. Do you see why no one believes you?
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:12 pm
-Candii_Sweet-

Yes we can.
Joshua Huff.
Or Riley Huff.
The name on photobucket and facebook are different.It's Joshua on his profile. How the heck did you get his photo? Creepy stalker... xd
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:14 pm
Amensu Saje I'm working there already. I don't have to stay there and do nothing else. I have every right to look at other guilds that I am in. We're getting things done in great timing at Gaia-zine right now. So far, better than ever before. I know not to steal! I didn't do it and you all don't even know what's going on and are still trying to say I did it just because you want to. And I have every right to be this way when I'm being attacked from every angle. -Reposted- My original didn't go through. /sadface If I don't know what's going on, then you should explain it in full detail.. WITH PROOF. No, not just typed out words, or words in general. But screenshots, documented evidence to prove that your sorry butt had nothing to do with it. But I have every right to accuse you, just like the other person did when they posted the thread. (I do agree that they should have posted it in the guild first, and then taken it to the public.)
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:19 pm
Skye Reisato -Candii_Sweet-

Yes we can.
Joshua Huff.
Or Riley Huff.
The name on photobucket and facebook are different.It's Joshua on his profile. How the heck did you get his photo? Creepy stalker... xd I'm an insane psychopath.
Stalking is just an easy little thing I do.
I have tons more.




Enjoy.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:21 pm
Jamie Ranai But I have every right to accuse you, just like the other person did when they posted the thread. (I do agree that they should have posted it in the guild first, and then taken it to the public.) 'They,' would be me. Hi. I would have liked to keep it within the guild. But it was such a big thing, I was rather paranoid about it. If I had posted it in the guild, and Amensu had deleted it, he might also have booted me out of my status as Vice-captain. Which I needed to send a guild announcement. And I was new enough that I wasn't sure if I could trust any other VC's to send it for me, in the event that I did get kicked out. Worst-case scenario, pretty much no one would know. I'm a pessimist, so I prepared for the worst-case. Also, I did PM Amensu before taking any action. Multiple times. Never got a satisfactory answer.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:25 pm
-Candii_Sweet-
Yes we can.
Joshua Huff.
Or Riley Huff.
The name on photobucket and facebook are different.It's Joshua on his profile. How the heck did you get his photo? Creepy stalker... xd I'm an insane psychopath.
Stalking is just an easy little thing I do.
I have tons more.
Enjoy. Well, as long as you're not a mentally unstable insane psychopath. Now that would be bad. I have only one thing to say, Amensu/Joshua/Riley: Nice tie.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:26 pm
Meia15 Amensu Saje I didn't intend for my AVATAR to be dressed like him at the time. The ART was supposed to be similar but not so similar. I made a tektek for that. I did explain those trades, you just wouldn't listen. I tried to get you to listen and believe me and you wouldn't. You then decided to run to the public for public humiliation. (Whether you intended it or not, that's what it is/was.) And that's because I didn't trust Arisa with Gaia-zine. She's too stubborn and bull-headed and wanted everything her way. I didn't trust her to keep Gaia-zine going the way we were wanting it to go. No, I wouldn't put you in charge of them again. What would I do though? I would give you a second chance and get over myself and trust you again to still give you another chance at my trust. You did neither. Well... that's a lie. You decided "hey, I think he's stealing funds! I'm gonna humiliate him and then LEAVE HIM WITH THE FUNDS. That's a great idea!" xp If you thought I was stealing and were as good and professional as you think/say, what you would have done is at least stick around until I replaced all that I said I would replace. I never intentionally dodge questions. 1)I wasn't trying to dress like him. All I wanted was some art that was like the style of his because I liked how clean and professional it looked. 2)Don't say I'm not explaining. I've tried, you guys just won't listen to me because I'm not giving the answers that you guys want and think are true. 3)Because it's only evidence that it came to or through my account. That does not mean it stayed here. That does not tell who was working the keyboard and mouse. And that does not say that I knew anything about it. You guys can see my username on that stuff. What can you not see? THE PERSON SITTING AT THE COMPUTER WORKING IT. That's fact. Nobody can deny it. Objection! Okay, I'm officially joining this.
I've listened to what everyone has had to say, even you Amensu. I've sat long and hard thinking about this situation, trying to make something of it, but there are some things bothering me still.
Amensu... Assuming the person wasn't you and was just in it for the gold, wouldn't you think they'd skip over sending it to your account, take it all in one go, and/or in a smaller time span? Just saying you weren't behind the keyboard during this whole thing isn't gonna cut it, unfortunately. I mean, all day long, you can say that you're a 400-foot tall purple platypus-bear with pink horns and silver wings, but that doesn't mean it's true. You need to prove your words with some solid evidence. Screenshots of the trades of the exact amount of gold going to wherever it went since you keep claiming it wasn't you. That's all most of us are asking for.
"That does not mean it stayed here." Then like I just said, show us the screenshots of where it went. "That does not tell who was working the keyboard and mouse." Well if it wasn't you, then who would have the passwords to both your account and the GZ mule's account and bother to keep it up for a year? "And that does not say that I knew anything about it." So you didn't notice the mysterious increases of thousands to millions of gold coming into your account? You didn't notice these trades when you went to your trade center? And what about those gifts? Where did they all go? Explain that, since you don't seem like the oblivious type, Amensu. I'll give you that.
Also, if you really did change your password 2-3 months ago, then who took the 2 million+ gold and all those expensive looking items late December? Because if it really was a friend taking all the gold that whole year and you really did change your password like you said you did, then please explain how that still could've happened. Take that! That one of the things I keep saying though. I can't give evidence when I trade so much and my logs don't show those trades. And, even if I did get screenshots, they would say the same thing on my end as on the Secretary's. And I can't take screenshots of him sending it somewhere else because, as I said, he didn't have an account. If I had evidence or knew how to get some then I would have done so a LONG time ago. Just because people keep asking for it doens't mean I will suddenly be able pull evidence out of my butt and clear my name. I've already explained the stuff with my friend having the passwords at the time. No reason to try and explain it again. Because in my line of work on here I'm constantly getting trades from people so my gold increases all the time. I've just stopped paying attention to how much in most cases and just accepting. I figured that any gold I got was coming from business partners/clients/whatever. And I didn't see them as trades when I was trading because they were accepted at the same time they were sent so they didn't show up as offered trades or trades waiting on me or anything. As for gifts, a bunch of those were from Gaia-zine bad being sent to winners of contests. The Staff at the time wanted me to be the one to send gifts through my personal account because they thought it seemed "more interactive with the users" to do it that way. Therefore, I sent them to my account and then to them. Other gifts were for my brother as donations. And others were just to random users to get the Gaia-zine name out when we were finally moving a little better. As for the Bloodstone Amulets (2) that came to my account, I won't lie. One was for me and one was for a friend. But I swear I thought I paid the gold back. I fully intended to and honestly thought I did. And thanks for the compliment. First one from anybody on here in quite a long time. Those items were some of the gifts for friends. They were Christmas gifts that I was giving them because they wanted them and I thought it would helps Gaia-zine's name. Who knew it'd turn into something that disgraced Gaia-zine name, huh? As for the 2,140,000g or so, I honestly can't say. sweatdrop I know that looks bad but I honestly can't remember what it was for. I know there was some reason, but I can't remember the reason... confused
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:33 pm
Skye Reisato 'They,' would be me. Hi. I would have liked to keep it within the guild. But it was such a big thing, I was rather paranoid about it. If I had posted it in the guild, and Amensu had deleted it, he might also have booted me out of my status as Vice-captain. Which I needed to send a guild announcement. And I was new enough that I wasn't sure if I could trust any other VC's to send it for me, in the event that I did get kicked out. Worst-case scenario, pretty much no one would know. I'm a pessimist, so I prepared for the worst-case. Also, I did PM Amensu before taking any action. Multiple times. Never got a satisfactory answer. Oh yes, hello there dear. Wasn't sure if 'they' was male or female, and I couldn't remember your name. Sorry hun. I understand your actions, but I still feel that going to the guild first would have been better. That's not going to change, (I'm too much of a b***h to change my opinion anyways), but I just stand around draw pretty pictures. emotion_awesome
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:37 pm
Skye Reisato -Candii_Sweet-
Yes we can.
Joshua Huff.
Or Riley Huff.
The name on photobucket and facebook are different.It's Joshua on his profile. How the heck did you get his photo? Creepy stalker... xd I'm an insane psychopath.
Stalking is just an easy little thing I do.
I have tons more.
Enjoy. Well, as long as you're not a mentally unstable insane psychopath. Now that would be bad. I have only one thing to say, Amensu/Joshua/Riley: Nice tie. Lol. It's Amensu or Josh. Lol. My older brother's name is Riley. x) And thanks (I think).
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