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OK, back to the debate.

I know a lot of christians who are against it, but at the same time I know a lot who are for it, which is why I started this thread.


Ive tried that approach several times it dosnt work so well.

Ok fine I agree picking up rocks are is not sexual immorality.....but there is big difference between picking up rocks and naming a game sexual immorality to picking up rocks and turning sexual immorality into a fictional book where everyone is running around having sex with everyone and everything they see. My point in this is, Harry Potter shows Witchcraft as something that is Fun and cool. How many kids around your school do you think practice wicca? If one of them suddenly wrote a book about Witches and Wizards but it had some Moral truth to it would you read it or would you be cautious in reading it?

Its not nessesarily a sin to read the books. But there are many things in these books that are questionable. Ok so you prayed and you werent convicted, What about the people who are convicted about reading these books? What then? Should they ignore their convictions (that may be coming from God)?

I understand what your saying, No you wouldnt be reading about a sin if you just decided to call the books or the rocks sexual immorality. But like I said before its different with the books because they do more than just call themselves witches and wizards. And as far as relating these books to The Chronicles of Narnia, all of those books have definite christian messages,. Each of the characters in the Chronicles of Narnia represents a significant christian figure. Aslan=Christ (dying on the stone table and then rising again is representation of dying on the cross and rising again, the "magic" from before the dawn of time talked about is like the prophesies of christ) The White Witch= The Devil (Ill go more into this later because now I have to go)

No, actually. I never said anything of the sort. You quoted OT laws as if they still applied. I responded by reminding you of other OT laws that I really doubted that you followed/believed in.



Actually, Jesus taught on those here and here.

Of course, even if He didn't you'd still have to prove how those laws still applied, when Colossians 2:13-15 clearly state that the OT law was nailed to the Cross.

I just wanted everyone to know that I wont be posting in here for a few days as I am sick, And I have become kinda depressed(has nothing to do with this thread just thought everyone who Im debating with would like to know).

You're ignoring an important part of that passage: The entire beginning of the sentence.

He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.

The verse is clearly referring to the fact that Jesus' death on the cross justified us and made us not responsible to judgment for our sins. Unless you're suggesting that anything Jesus didn't mention Himself is not a sin? Bestiality is cool with you? Do you think God's okay with that, since Jesus didn't mention it?

Try this:

Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill."

He fulfilled a) the symbolic laws (i.e. those concerning separation, cleanliness, etc, and had nothing to do with morality, but were very symbolic of His coming and of the set-apartness of the Jews to God), and b) the requirement of sacrifice for those who sinned. If it meant anything different, such as the suggestion that OT moral laws were cancelled, passages like Galatians 5:19-21, and the dozens of others like it, would be retarded and blasphemous.

You know why this is my opinion? Because it lines up with the rest of the New Testament, which holds us accountable, if not eternally responsible to moral transgressions and sins. Your "everything goes except for the few new laws Jesus laid down," view does not.

Galations 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

But those things are okay if the "written code" was cancelled, right?


Romans 6:15
What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!

What sin? Only the four or five things Jesus mentioned? Jesus cancelled the law, but left us a few rules for the road? No. He didn't deliver us from our moral obedience. He delivered us from the consequence of our sins.

If you really think the moral law was deleted, you're going to have to chuck about 2/3 of the New Testament, since Paul, Peter, & Co. continually exhort Christians to avoid sin such as idolatry, covetousness, debauchery, and a whole bunch of other stuff Jesus didn't expand on.

~Gilwen

PS All verse emphasis mine, of course.