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 Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:37 pm
In fact, if I'm remembering correctly, didn't Freya teach it to Odin?
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:54 pm
So the lore teaches us 4laugh
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:44 pm
CalledTheRaven In fact, if I'm remembering correctly, didn't Freya teach it to Odin? Well what do you know? Interesting. I think I remember reading that somewhere but..I havent done proper research in so long. @Sang- Is there any reason given? Is it just considered 'feminine' because its not 'honorable'? Or?
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:50 pm
Nah, most of the records and lore regarding it just tend to involve women. And of course, there's the structure of the word itself which San has already gone over.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:46 pm
So I've been thinking about trying to have a kind of sit down, where I meet with a god(dess). The main purpose of this is try and get Them to know me and vise versa, plus to see who I connect with more. Every time a holiday comes around I want to do something but I feel weird to do so. It feels weird to honor or ask for a blessing without actually meeting Them first.
But the problem with that is, I haven't the slightest idea what to say. I'm horrible at small talk. Every time people try to talk to me, my replies are short and break any chance for further discussion. And it's totally on accident I just can't think of anything more to say, then they tend to think I don't want to talk to them and avoid me. gonk I'm horrified to think after I say "Hello, I'm yadda yadda. Nice to meet you." There will be this horrible awkward silence afterwards.
I was thinking I'd try to talk to Odin first, since it was Him ((I think)) who first got me into Heathenism. So if nothing else we could talk about that... Although if I'm wrong... I don't know how that conversation will go.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:37 pm
Prayer doesn't need to involve words, Sanz. You can communicate with feelings and so on instead. Although, I do know what you mean - I've had situations where I suddenly don't know what to say, and then I feel weird and awkward and bad for interrupting them xp But it doesn't have to be drawn out, particularly if you're just pouring a brief offering.
Anyway, when it comes to holidays you don't theoretically need to involve the gods. You can make offerings to ancestors or local land spirits instead if you prefer.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:48 pm
Hmm. That's true. I think I'll try a mixture of words and emotions. Maybe one will help the other and I won't hit a wall and cause that awkwardness. Thanks. biggrin
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:12 pm
I think I'm going to pray to Thor tonight instead of Odin. He seems less... Intimidating, I guess. Like He wouldn't be all that annoyed if an awkward silence happened. At least I'm hoping.
And on that note, as I was holiday shopping my boyfriend noticed a Thor's Hammer necklace and I just couldn't say no. Although I was a little disturbed by the fact it was under necklaces labeled "Celtic Visions".
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:26 pm
Yeah, Thor's generally pretty straightforward and laid back. Should work out.
Ans I find Norse and Celtic symbols mixed up together all the time. Yeah, there's some aesthetic crossover, what with the knot work and spirals and such, but a hammer is not a celtic symbol as far as I'm aware.
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:58 pm
Well... I think it went well.
It was a lot more brief then I'd imagined. But it was a rather cold day, and it was a little bit of a walk to the woods, so I didn't want to draw it out too much. The entire way there I was anxious and fretting on what to say or how to express what I wanted. I only took a few moments beforehand to relax before starting. Once finished, I felt completely calm and at peace. If this was His doing or just being relieved I don't know. Maybe both?
Another note, could be completely coincidental but I did think it was interesting to note. On the way into the woods me and my boyfriend kept stumbling over twigs and roots and it was difficult working around puddles. Even though my boyfriend had his flashlight app on his phone on it still seemed like you couldn't see a thing. Yet on the way out I could see perfectly with or without the phone's light, there was no twigs or roots in the way and the puddles were no problem.
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:25 pm
My 21st birthday is next Friday and I was thinking about making my first alcohol offering that day. However the only mead that seems to be available is Carroll's Mead, which apparently only gets 3 out of 5 stars to some reviews online. Unless I offer ale, but I haven't the slightest idea what type of ale to get. I'm unsure how or when I'll be going about this, or who I should offer it too, just another general offer or someone specifically.
I don't know. It's something to think about.
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:02 pm
Sanzolvr29 My 21st birthday is next Friday and I was thinking about making my first alcohol offering that day. However the only mead that seems to be available is Carroll's Mead, which apparently only gets 3 out of 5 stars to some reviews online. Unless I offer ale, but I haven't the slightest idea what type of ale to get. I'm unsure how or when I'll be going about this, or who I should offer it too, just another general offer or someone specifically. I don't know. It's something to think about.
If you have the means and time (which it seems you don't if you're thinking of doing an offering next week), a home-brewed mead wouldn't go amiss - not to mention it might impress a deity or two if brewed well. Something to keep in mind for the future, I suppose.
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:11 am
Sanzolvr29 My 21st birthday is next Friday and I was thinking about making my first alcohol offering that day. However the only mead that seems to be available is Carroll's Mead, which apparently only gets 3 out of 5 stars to some reviews online. Unless I offer ale, but I haven't the slightest idea what type of ale to get. I'm unsure how or when I'll be going about this, or who I should offer it too, just another general offer or someone specifically. I don't know. It's something to think about. Can you find any Barensjager? It's a rather strong honey liqueur. I've had good luck with it.
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:36 pm
Lance Kibagari If you have the means and time (which it seems you don't if you're thinking of doing an offering next week), a home-brewed mead wouldn't go amiss - not to mention it might impress a deity or two if brewed well. Something to keep in mind for the future, I suppose. I want to brew my own mead at one point. However it's something that will most likely have to wait till I get my own place, I doubt my parents would like me brewing my own alcohol. CalledTheRaven Can you find any Barensjager? It's a rather strong honey liqueur. I've had good luck with it. I'll look into that, thanks.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:07 pm
I'm going to ramble a bit on what's been on my mind lately. So I apologize beforehand if my post seems to be all over the place.
Last semester I was so excited to do all these new things for my path and really get a move on, because I read and study more then I actually do. Yet I just didn't have the time at all, so I was anxious for winter break. Yet when winter break rolled around I didn't do jack s**t for my path. I still haven't, but this semester is much more laid back then the fall so I have a bit of extra time, so I have no excuse. It always feels like I want to do all these things (spiritual or not) when I can't but when I do have the time I lose the drive. But the meditation thread feels like its helped push me to action.
Like I've mentioned previously I want to get into daily (or close to it) prayer. I didn't keep up with it before. Part of my problem was I didn't have a focus, there was no altar to face, or specific place in my room or an item to hold or anything. While these things aren't necessary, it felt like it would help focus my mind and get me into the right kind of mindset. So a couple months ago I finally found a hammer I could use for the altar I would like to eventually have. But after I got it, it did nothing but sit on my shelf. Mainly because I wasn’t sure how I wanted to cleanse it. Smudging seemed the best and simplest but the last couple times I’ve smudge anything (granted it’s been a while ) it felt like the item wasn’t cleansed. But I finally broke down and did it anyway, and it worked. I have no idea what I did; I used the same herb as last time so it wasn’t a different reaction to a different herb. I was amazed at how clean my hammer felt.
Anyway, the second reason daily prayers didn’t work for me is because I didn’t have a plan or I didn’t really know what I wanted out of praying. Most prayers I’ve seen the person was either asking for something or thanking the deity(ies). But that’s not what I was going for. There’s nothing I really need to ask for from any deities (except maybe guidance) and thanking Them day in and day out feels like it would lose the meaning and sincerity. I think what it is I’m going for right now is more adoration (or something like that, I’m still not sure how to word it).
Another problem was who to pray to. Since there was no particular pull towards anyone I usually kept it general. But honestly I think that was part of my problem when it came to what to say. Trying to word everything so I don’t exclude anyone is hard when the gods and goddesses are all so different.
So I thought of a possible solution. Praying to each deity on Their day of the week, so for instance Tyr on Tuesday, Odin on Wednesday, Thor on Thursday and Frigg on Friday. Monday I believe is for Mani and Sunday is for Sunna, I don’t know if I’m going to keep it like that or change it to another deity or not. Saturday I don’t think was named after anyone (although I’m sure people have dedicated Saturday to one of the deities, I just don’t remember who) so maybe I’ll have Saturday as a “rest” day. This way I can hopefully get a sense of each deity, maybe if They wish to speak with me more or something or for me to leave Them alone. I want to write out my own prayer for each, and since it’s a different deity each night, it’ll be a different prayer so it won’t become to repetitive to quickly. ((I’ll be using the same prayer each week till I feel it needs/should be changed.))
So I have a few questions I didn’t ask before about prayer. How do you end a prayer? Like, I guess this kind of goes hand in hand with San’s thread about formalities on how you start a prayer/ritual. Do you say anything specific; make certain gestures, re-center/ground? The few prayers I’ve made feel like they end like awkward phone calls where each person stops talking for a long moment and I just hang up without a word. I guess “Hail (deity)” would suffice, but what about prayers that have no words? When do you know when to stop? Is it just intuition? Do you feel something every time you pray to your deity(ies)? Or is it okay not to feel like you get a reaction? What kind of reaction do you get? I’m assuming it’s different for each person. I feel silly that I don’t know this, prayer seems such a simple concept but I have such a hard time grasping it, maybe because I grew up irreligious and no one ever really talked about it in my family.
Well, that was a lot longer than I thought it would be, or probably needed to be. I have a habit of explaining every small detail. Thanks for taking the time to read anyway.
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