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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:05 pm


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what is fact? Something you can feel? Christians can feel god, but it doesn't mean it is actually there

Do you mean that things are not real even if they can be felt?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:33 pm


"Jesus/God said he would get rid of all the wicked people. Odin said he would get rid of all the frost giants... i don't see many frost giants anymore." dramallama dramallama dramallama dramallama
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:34 am


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what is fact? Something you can feel? Christians can feel god, but it doesn't mean it is actually there

Do you mean that things are not real even if they can be felt?

I see what you mean, but things may not be as they seem, rather than unreal

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:45 am


God discriminates against other ideologies too much for me to want to worship him. sure, i will admit he could be out there... but if he is, he most certainly doesn't have my support. yet.
whats this? so you guys don't think i am leading right? well... its off to the great inferno with you then.
whats this? you don't like me? well, no wings for you. you can be a "fallen" angel now.
what? you don't agree with me? flood for you.
ah demons... you guys don't agree with my views. you also don't care about me or my views... so... instead of leaving you be, i will condemn you all to hell regardless if you help people or not. it doesn't matter, you go to hell.
question god, and go to hell... yeah... sounds like a "loving" being to me.
BANISH ALL THE PERSPECTIVES AND VIEWS!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:01 pm


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God discriminates against other ideologies too much for me to want to worship him. sure, i will admit he could be out there... but if he is, he most certainly doesn't have my support. yet.
whats this? so you guys don't think i am leading right? well... its off to the great inferno with you then.
whats this? you don't like me? well, no wings for you. you can be a "fallen" angel now.
what? you don't agree with me? flood for you.
ah demons... you guys don't agree with my views. you also don't care about me or my views... so... instead of leaving you be, i will condemn you all to hell regardless if you help people or not. it doesn't matter, you go to hell.
question god, and go to hell... yeah... sounds like a "loving" being to me.
BANISH ALL THE PERSPECTIVES AND VIEWS!!!!!!!

God is loving, but He does not tolerate evil or slacken His rules. He's not only loving but also powerful and just. Justice means a lot to Him, and sometimes what you feel to be unfair is actually fair because many people don't want some things to be fair. For example, a bully picks on a smaller kid but runs off after threatening the other not to tell on him. If the victim does not tell on the bully, the bully would feel great because he got away with his actions and words. However, if the smaller boy tells an adult, the bully will feel contempt for the other. It is right for someone to know if a child is being bullied; it is just and fair because the bully deserves the consequences for his actions. If the bully had gotten away with bullying, that would be unfair. Same thing with God: all who love sin and blasphemy deserve hell. So-called "good" people and Christians deserve hell, too, because we are natural-born sinners because of Adam and Eve's screw-up. Everybody is on the path to hell. But God has been loving enough that He provides a way out of this so that we wouldn't have to go to hell. God sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross for our sins so that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16). There have been many reports of people who have converted, saying that they suddenly feel great. That's because their sins have been washed away, and Jesus has been accepted into their hearts. Jesus was crucified in a horrible death, bearing all the sins of the world, just because he loves us and because He wants us to be able to enter heaven. Jesus said so Himself: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6) Once again, God has given us a free choice whether or not to follow Him (Adam and Eve were allowed to make their own choices, also). God never forces anybody. He let's all of us make our own decisions, but in the end God cannot allow evil into heaven. It's like parents not letting kids play videogames as punishment because they have been badly behaved. Bad kids don't deserve videogames (unless you're aiming to turn them into monsters with no morals or manners, dealing drugs, getting into street fights, repeatedly going to jail, drinking, etc. and basically becoming criminals). So we are all just a bunch of rebellious kids who deserve a spanking from the Father (raise your hands if you want your kids to grow up into pleasant, diligent, and successful young adults. Anyone?) But remember, God provided a way out of this mess. Otherwise you'll end up in hell saying hi to Lucifer.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:09 pm


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Tuttiefrutti
what is fact? Something you can feel? Christians can feel god, but it doesn't mean it is actually there

Do you mean that things are not real even if they can be felt?

I see what you mean, but things may not be as they seem, rather than unreal

Okay thanks, I now understand your point. Yes, some things are not as they seem (i.e. hallucinations or a nice-looking person that turns out to be really mean), but for thousands of years there have been many witnesses that have supported the idea or awareness of there being spiritual forces around us, even to this day.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:36 pm


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"Jesus/God said he would get rid of all the wicked people. Odin said he would get rid of all the frost giants... i don't see many frost giants anymore." dramallama dramallama dramallama dramallama
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:39 pm


Dramatica Angeliqua
Tuttiefrutti
Dramatica Angeliqua
Tuttiefrutti
what is fact? Something you can feel? Christians can feel god, but it doesn't mean it is actually there

Do you mean that things are not real even if they can be felt?

I see what you mean, but things may not be as they seem, rather than unreal

Okay thanks, I now understand your point. Yes, some things are not as they seem (i.e. hallucinations or a nice-looking person that turns out to be really mean), but for thousands of years there have been many witnesses that have supported the idea or awareness of there being spiritual forces around us, even to this day.
There have also been and are to this day, many idiots in the world. Majority view hardly denotes truth. : P
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:42 pm


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God discriminates against other ideologies too much for me to want to worship him. sure, i will admit he could be out there... but if he is, he most certainly doesn't have my support. yet.
whats this? so you guys don't think i am leading right? well... its off to the great inferno with you then.
whats this? you don't like me? well, no wings for you. you can be a "fallen" angel now.
what? you don't agree with me? flood for you.
ah demons... you guys don't agree with my views. you also don't care about me or my views... so... instead of leaving you be, i will condemn you all to hell regardless if you help people or not. it doesn't matter, you go to hell.
question god, and go to hell... yeah... sounds like a "loving" being to me.
BANISH ALL THE PERSPECTIVES AND VIEWS!!!!!!!
Maybe it's people who discriminate and not god. Perhaps gods presence was felt, but his ideologies were concocted. : P

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:45 pm


Dramatica Angeliqua
Arcane_Ninja24
God discriminates against other ideologies too much for me to want to worship him. sure, i will admit he could be out there... but if he is, he most certainly doesn't have my support. yet.
whats this? so you guys don't think i am leading right? well... its off to the great inferno with you then.
whats this? you don't like me? well, no wings for you. you can be a "fallen" angel now.
what? you don't agree with me? flood for you.
ah demons... you guys don't agree with my views. you also don't care about me or my views... so... instead of leaving you be, i will condemn you all to hell regardless if you help people or not. it doesn't matter, you go to hell.
question god, and go to hell... yeah... sounds like a "loving" being to me.
BANISH ALL THE PERSPECTIVES AND VIEWS!!!!!!!

God is loving, but He does not tolerate evil or slacken His rules. He's not only loving but also powerful and just. Justice means a lot to Him, and sometimes what you feel to be unfair is actually fair because many people don't want some things to be fair. For example, a bully picks on a smaller kid but runs off after threatening the other not to tell on him. If the victim does not tell on the bully, the bully would feel great because he got away with his actions and words. However, if the smaller boy tells an adult, the bully will feel contempt for the other. It is right for someone to know if a child is being bullied; it is just and fair because the bully deserves the consequences for his actions. If the bully had gotten away with bullying, that would be unfair. Same thing with God: all who love sin and blasphemy deserve hell. So-called "good" people and Christians deserve hell, too, because we are natural-born sinners because of Adam and Eve's screw-up. Everybody is on the path to hell. But God has been loving enough that He provides a way out of this so that we wouldn't have to go to hell. God sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross for our sins so that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16). There have been many reports of people who have converted, saying that they suddenly feel great. That's because their sins have been washed away, and Jesus has been accepted into their hearts. Jesus was crucified in a horrible death, bearing all the sins of the world, just because he loves us and because He wants us to be able to enter heaven. Jesus said so Himself: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6) Once again, God has given us a free choice whether or not to follow Him (Adam and Eve were allowed to make their own choices, also). God never forces anybody. He let's all of us make our own decisions, but in the end God cannot allow evil into heaven. It's like parents not letting kids play videogames as punishment because they have been badly behaved. Bad kids don't deserve videogames (unless you're aiming to turn them into monsters with no morals or manners, dealing drugs, getting into street fights, repeatedly going to jail, drinking, etc. and basically becoming criminals). So we are all just a bunch of rebellious kids who deserve a spanking from the Father (raise your hands if you want your kids to grow up into pleasant, diligent, and successful young adults. Anyone?) But remember, God provided a way out of this mess. Otherwise you'll end up in hell saying hi to Lucifer.
Doesn't seem reasonable to me. Providing a way out of a mess he created and punishing those who don't take it. : P
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:51 pm


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Arcane_Ninja24
God discriminates against other ideologies too much for me to want to worship him. sure, i will admit he could be out there... but if he is, he most certainly doesn't have my support. yet.
whats this? so you guys don't think i am leading right? well... its off to the great inferno with you then.
whats this? you don't like me? well, no wings for you. you can be a "fallen" angel now.
what? you don't agree with me? flood for you.
ah demons... you guys don't agree with my views. you also don't care about me or my views... so... instead of leaving you be, i will condemn you all to hell regardless if you help people or not. it doesn't matter, you go to hell.
question god, and go to hell... yeah... sounds like a "loving" being to me.
BANISH ALL THE PERSPECTIVES AND VIEWS!!!!!!!

God is loving, but He does not tolerate evil or slacken His rules. He's not only loving but also powerful and just. Justice means a lot to Him, and sometimes what you feel to be unfair is actually fair because many people don't want some things to be fair. For example, a bully picks on a smaller kid but runs off after threatening the other not to tell on him. If the victim does not tell on the bully, the bully would feel great because he got away with his actions and words. However, if the smaller boy tells an adult, the bully will feel contempt for the other. It is right for someone to know if a child is being bullied; it is just and fair because the bully deserves the consequences for his actions. If the bully had gotten away with bullying, that would be unfair. Same thing with God: all who love sin and blasphemy deserve hell. So-called "good" people and Christians deserve hell, too, because we are natural-born sinners because of Adam and Eve's screw-up. Everybody is on the path to hell. But God has been loving enough that He provides a way out of this so that we wouldn't have to go to hell. God sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross for our sins so that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16). There have been many reports of people who have converted, saying that they suddenly feel great. That's because their sins have been washed away, and Jesus has been accepted into their hearts. Jesus was crucified in a horrible death, bearing all the sins of the world, just because he loves us and because He wants us to be able to enter heaven. Jesus said so Himself: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6) Once again, God has given us a free choice whether or not to follow Him (Adam and Eve were allowed to make their own choices, also). God never forces anybody. He let's all of us make our own decisions, but in the end God cannot allow evil into heaven. It's like parents not letting kids play videogames as punishment because they have been badly behaved. Bad kids don't deserve videogames (unless you're aiming to turn them into monsters with no morals or manners, dealing drugs, getting into street fights, repeatedly going to jail, drinking, etc. and basically becoming criminals). So we are all just a bunch of rebellious kids who deserve a spanking from the Father (raise your hands if you want your kids to grow up into pleasant, diligent, and successful young adults. Anyone?) But remember, God provided a way out of this mess. Otherwise you'll end up in hell saying hi to Lucifer.

Lucifer is a miss translation and only mentioned by name in the bible twice due to miss translation, Lucifer is actually an angel of change. a being of balance, and is not Satan. Satan and Lucifer are two different, people. given this i would gladly say high to Lucifer, he is order and balance after all.
now then,
i understand its completely just to blame and punish all the children and generation of a family because of what the mother and father did. thats exactly how we should treat people. hey one of your European christian ancestors killed people unjustly, logically then i suppose its only just you pay the price for murder... what the punishment for that again? lifetime in prison?
i cannot believe someone would call themselves Just and say they uphold love and justice if they would blame and punish all the children for the crimes of the parents. that is not justice.
also i converted... away from Catholicism. i felt great for it, like i was my own person. i felt free, and clear from leaving Catholicism. also i could look at things from a new perspective. i could ask the question why? why this? why that?
yeah god, gives a choice... and if we don't pick the choice he wants us to he punishes us. so no, he doesn't really give us a choice. he disguises control with "free will".
he cannot allow evil into heaven? what if in someone elses perspective heaven is evil? angels don't have free will in Catholic mythology at least... demons do. Demons can chose, and given all my research into demonology i have found out a good portion of demons are naturally good. they want to help, and they don't care about evil and destruction. yet, they also don't care for god.
... we are good in every way but we don't follow god and thus justice dictates we deserve hell. tell me, how is that fair? does that sound just?
also i consider someone who has free will, and chooses to be helpful, a better person, then someone who has no free will, and is forced to be good.
thus, good demons with free will who chose to be good are better people
then angels that have no free will, and thus cannot chose one side or the other.
angels not having free will can also not have moral codes then, Demons can.
i find it rediculous that people would assume all Demons are bad. it is illogical. i do not believe that free will would allow all demons to be bad, they would most likely develop morals, and codes. some at least would have to be good and wanting to help. and if god really is just, if i ever get to heaven i better see those, Good helpful demons in heaven.
now if demons don't have free will, which mind you contradicts mythology because if they had no free will they wouldn't have been able to rebel against god...
anyways, if demons have no free will, and are all 100% evil, then god would have dictated it be that way, at which point he made evil beings.

God has an odd and cruel sense of justice.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:58 pm


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God discriminates against other ideologies too much for me to want to worship him. sure, i will admit he could be out there... but if he is, he most certainly doesn't have my support. yet.
whats this? so you guys don't think i am leading right? well... its off to the great inferno with you then.
whats this? you don't like me? well, no wings for you. you can be a "fallen" angel now.
what? you don't agree with me? flood for you.
ah demons... you guys don't agree with my views. you also don't care about me or my views... so... instead of leaving you be, i will condemn you all to hell regardless if you help people or not. it doesn't matter, you go to hell.
question god, and go to hell... yeah... sounds like a "loving" being to me.
BANISH ALL THE PERSPECTIVES AND VIEWS!!!!!!!
Maybe it's people who discriminate and not god. Perhaps gods presence was felt, but his ideaologies were concocted. : P

possible, but you think he would at least try to release a message to people. get them on the right path... thats what any good father would try and do at least.
AND ANY CHRISTIANS EVES DROPPING ON THIS UNDERSTAND THAT JESUS DOESN'T COUNT!!!!
if jesus was bringing peace then why did he say, "I bring not peace, but the sword." hhmmm?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:17 pm


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God discriminates against other ideologies too much for me to want to worship him. sure, i will admit he could be out there... but if he is, he most certainly doesn't have my support. yet.
whats this? so you guys don't think i am leading right? well... its off to the great inferno with you then.
whats this? you don't like me? well, no wings for you. you can be a "fallen" angel now.
what? you don't agree with me? flood for you.
ah demons... you guys don't agree with my views. you also don't care about me or my views... so... instead of leaving you be, i will condemn you all to hell regardless if you help people or not. it doesn't matter, you go to hell.
question god, and go to hell... yeah... sounds like a "loving" being to me.
BANISH ALL THE PERSPECTIVES AND VIEWS!!!!!!!
Maybe it's people who discriminate and not god. Perhaps gods presence was felt, but his ideologies were concocted. : P

possible, but you think he would at least try to release a message to people. get them on the right path... thats what any good father would try and do at least.
AND ANY CHRISTIANS EVES DROPPING ON THIS UNDERSTAND THAT JESUS DOESN'T COUNT!!!!
if jesus was bringing peace then why did he say, "I bring not peace, but the sword." hhmmm?
Who's to say there is a right path? Maybe he has no ideologies. No consciousness even.
The "man-made" aspect of the faith may extend not only to the sin, but to the punishment. How do we even know there is a Hell? People talk about feeling the presence of god or even god speaking to them. When's the last time you heard about someone feeling the presence of Hell? : P
How do we know god gives a flying ******** what we do with ourselves? If it's true that he loves all of us, what makes us think he cares if we're assholes? XD

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:35 pm


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God discriminates against other ideologies too much for me to want to worship him. sure, i will admit he could be out there... but if he is, he most certainly doesn't have my support. yet.
whats this? so you guys don't think i am leading right? well... its off to the great inferno with you then.
whats this? you don't like me? well, no wings for you. you can be a "fallen" angel now.
what? you don't agree with me? flood for you.
ah demons... you guys don't agree with my views. you also don't care about me or my views... so... instead of leaving you be, i will condemn you all to hell regardless if you help people or not. it doesn't matter, you go to hell.
question god, and go to hell... yeah... sounds like a "loving" being to me.
BANISH ALL THE PERSPECTIVES AND VIEWS!!!!!!!
Maybe it's people who discriminate and not god. Perhaps gods presence was felt, but his ideologies were concocted. : P

possible, but you think he would at least try to release a message to people. get them on the right path... thats what any good father would try and do at least.
AND ANY CHRISTIANS EVES DROPPING ON THIS UNDERSTAND THAT JESUS DOESN'T COUNT!!!!
if jesus was bringing peace then why did he say, "I bring not peace, but the sword." hhmmm?
Who's to say there is a right path? Maybe he has no ideologies. No consciousness even.
The "man-made" aspect of the faith may extend not only to the sin, but to the punishment. How do we even know there is a Hell? People talk about feeling the presence of god or even god speaking to them. When's the last time you heard about someone feeling the presence of Hell? : P
How do we know god gives a flying ******** what we do with ourselves? If it's true that he loves all of us, what makes us think he cares if we're assholes? XD
this is very possible, though i was arguing as if the christians and catholics knew at least a little bit of what they where talking about...
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