|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
 Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:58 pm
Nerevar Telvanni
Since I didn't want to create a huge quote tower from your post's ladies I'm just going to address a few things that I came across in your posts.
1st off the 6th movies is the b*****d child of the bunch and needs to be locked in cupboard under a flight of stairs.
2nd. Casting of Dumbledore. I'm not sure if you are aware but Richard Harris the actor who played Dumbledore died of Hodgkin's Disease in 2002 so that is why he does not appear in the later films. Now I do have to agree, I think someone else should have gotten the role of AD instead of Michael Gambon. Michael is not a bad actor, I think it has to do with how they went about AD's design when Gambon took the role. AD to me looks like a hippe or something with the way he is dressed. For me I wish they had cast Ian McKellen as AD, Ian has already proven he take on the role of a well known wizard and pull it off, and Ian himself is gay so he would basically be channeling AD's spirit. Another choice for AD could have been Christopher Lee, but he has more of a baddie image to me. (I blame Star Wars for that)
3rd. One scene that they change IMO for the better was the torture scene between Bella and Hermione in the movie is was soooooo much more brutal and painful to watch. I kept wanting to yell out "Dudes get ur a**'s in gear and get up there an save Hermione". I wanted to jump up out of my chair and try to rescue her myself.
4th. It's going to happen with every book made into a movie that they are going to have to cut things out and change things to make it work better on the sliver scene than it did inside a book.
@1: It isn't even good enough for the cupboard-under-the-stairs treatment. Harry came from there, and he's AWESOME. This deserves the locked- in- a- crate -and -hidden- from- the -world -forever- in- an- old- warehouse treatment. @2: I don't care how Michael Gambon dresses, I care how he acts. And I hate what he's turned Dumbledore into. Especially the scene in Goblet of Fire where he grabs Harry and borderline shakes him, and loses his composure several times. Dumbledore would NEVER lose his composure. EVER. I agree that Sir Ian should've gotten that role. Christopher Lee though...you're right. He's too mean and baddie. XD Saruman, dude. Saruman...just can't be Albus Dumbledore. XDD Also, I was well aware that Richard Harris died. I cried. Hard. @3: I actually hated the dagger scene with Bellatrix. The one thing I did like is that in lieu of using Stan Shunpike to find out who the real Harry was with the seven Harrys was the use of Hedwig. Not only did they not have to use Stan, BUT they made Hedwig's death way more epic than just having her get hit in a cage. She went out with a bang, and I appreciated that. @4: I understand that they have to cut certain things, BUT WHEN THEY ADD A STUPID COFFEEHOUSE SCENE WITH SOME CHICK HITTING ON HARRY, SOME STUPID SCENE WITH BEAUXBATONS AND DURMSTRANG PERFORMING, AND LAST BUT MOST CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, BURN DOWN THE ******** BURROW, I'm out for blood. All the things they could've done with that time...Grinds. My. Gears.
|
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:59 pm
Nerevar Telvanni Blac Magik Nerevar Telvanni Blac Magik Nerevar Telvanni Blac Magik Well even if you are biased I completely agree with you. Gary Oldman was definitely an excellent pick. What about Voldemort though? Did you like his casting?
I did indeed, Ralph Fiennes knows how to play the "evil" guy. Not to mention he really gets into the character just like Ian did for Gandalf.
He might have had the same contact problem that Daniel had, so that could be why they didn't go with the slit pupils and red irises. I could be wrong, or it could have been from the device's he had to wear on his face to remove his nose and change others parts of his face to make him look less human.
I believe it was because his eyes were oversensitive or something and the contacts that they planned to use irritated his eyes too much for him to wear them. This was taken from an interview Daniel gave to veritaserum.com "I don't have green eyes, like Harry's, so I tried to wear green contacts, but they were so irritating that I stopped. Computer animation painted my eyes green during post-production." I guess it cost too much or they didn't bother to keep up with the computer animated painted eyes for the remaining movies. Apparently Daniel has green eyes during parts of Sorcerers Stone.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:02 pm
Ayamae Akahana Nerevar Telvanni
Since I didn't want to create a huge quote tower from your post's ladies I'm just going to address a few things that I came across in your posts.
1st off the 6th movies is the b*****d child of the bunch and needs to be locked in cupboard under a flight of stairs.
2nd. Casting of Dumbledore. I'm not sure if you are aware but Richard Harris the actor who played Dumbledore died of Hodgkin's Disease in 2002 so that is why he does not appear in the later films. Now I do have to agree, I think someone else should have gotten the role of AD instead of Michael Gambon. Michael is not a bad actor, I think it has to do with how they went about AD's design when Gambon took the role. AD to me looks like a hippe or something with the way he is dressed. For me I wish they had cast Ian McKellen as AD, Ian has already proven he take on the role of a well known wizard and pull it off, and Ian himself is gay so he would basically be channeling AD's spirit. Another choice for AD could have been Christopher Lee, but he has more of a baddie image to me. (I blame Star Wars for that)
3rd. One scene that they change IMO for the better was the torture scene between Bella and Hermione in the movie is was soooooo much more brutal and painful to watch. I kept wanting to yell out "Dudes get ur a**'s in gear and get up there an save Hermione". I wanted to jump up out of my chair and try to rescue her myself.
4th. It's going to happen with every book made into a movie that they are going to have to cut things out and change things to make it work better on the sliver scene than it did inside a book.
@1: It isn't even good enough for the cupboard-under-the-stairs treatment. Harry came from there, and he's AWESOME. This deserves the locked- in- a- crate -and -hidden- from- the -world -forever- in- an- old- warehouse treatment. @2: I don't care how Michael Gambon dresses, I care how he acts. And I hate what he's turned Dumbledore into. Especially the scene in Goblet of Fire where he grabs Harry and borderline shakes him, and loses his composure several times. Dumbledore would NEVER lose his composure. EVER. I agree that Sir Ian should've gotten that role. Christopher Lee though...you're right. He's too mean and baddie. XD Saruman, dude. Saruman...just can't be Albus Dumbledore. XDD Also, I was well aware that Richard Harris died. I cried. Hard. @3: I actually hated the dagger scene with Bellatrix. The one thing I did like is that in lieu of using Stan Shunpike to find out who the real Harry was with the seven Harrys was the use of Hedwig. Not only did they not have to use Stan, BUT they made Hedwig's death way more epic than just having her get hit in a cage. She went out with a bang, and I appreciated that. @4: I understand that they have to cut certain things, BUT WHEN THEY ADD A STUPID COFFEEHOUSE SCENE WITH SOME CHICK HITTING ON HARRY, SOME STUPID SCENE WITH BEAUXBATONS AND DURMSTRANG PERFORMING, AND LAST BUT MOST CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, BURN DOWN THE ******** BURROW, I'm out for blood. All the things they could've done with that time...Grinds. My. Gears.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:11 pm
More like burned at the stake treatment, forever banished to the ends of the Earth. We must never speak of it ever again.
His little freak out in GOF was a little much I agree there. It's like AD went a little bipolar there.
I was a little iffy when I heard that character deaths would change, but I was pleased with Hedwig's death, it made it more meaning full to me. I still think Wormtail should have died...
Ah yes that coffee scene...well there is a reason that movie is the b*****d child and that's part of it. Hell most of what you listed makes that movie a b*****d child. I could handle the performance parts from GOF, I just wish that they didn't make it seem like Dumstrung was male only and BEAUXBATONS female only schools. Your right that time at the beggining could have been spent with Dumbledores visit to number 4 to pick Harry up, and instead of the Burrow scene they could have spent more time on Voldy's past.
O.o really? that's odd I will have to go check that out later.
WOOOOOOT! Just broke the 2k post line for the guild.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
singlikenoonecanhearyou Captain
|
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:01 pm
Blac Magik Ian would have made a wonderful Dumbledore! I find Gandalf and Dumbledore rather similar in more than one respect, and I do believe Rowling was not very original with her description and portrayal of the character, unfortunately. And I know that Richard died, why else would they have cast another? I just think they could have picked a better-suited man for the job. For instance, in the Goblet of Fire, what the hell...? Dumbledore in the book was calm and collected, and simply asked Harry if he put his name in. However, the movie portrayed Dumbledore as being absolutely furious about the whole situation.This goes for both Sing and Telly; yes Voldemort flipped when he found out about the Hufflepuff cup but I do not think he was fully aware of the situation at hand. He kept Nagini close, but there were, if you recall, a few horcruxes he did not check.
Also, although the dancing was cheesy I must also agree with Telly in the sense that it showed Harry really was only a friend to Hermione, but a very good friend. Just quoting since people have gone so far ahead! But yea, i mean, i dont mind where snape gets killed, as long as harry still sees all the same thoughts, really. His place of death isn't that crucial. But yea, I agree with both of you, although Blac, I'm pretty sure he actually did check all the horcruxes. 1) Nagini he had by his side 2) The diary he knew was gone 3) he found out about the ring and the 4)cup and the 5)locket and he only didn't know about the 6)diadem and 7)harry. So i just find it unlikely he would waste his time torturing harry when he knew he was pretty much mortal now. it's like...i know that no movie will ever be the same as a book, its pretty much impossible. i just think they couldn't done this movie better- with just a few things added in. Again, not saying the scenes won't be great, i just dont want them taking away from the wonderfulness that is deathly hallows
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:59 pm
Nerevar Telvanni
More like burned at the stake treatment, forever banished to the ends of the Earth. We must never speak of it ever again.
His little freak out in GOF was a little much I agree there. It's like AD went a little bipolar there.
I was a little iffy when I heard that character deaths would change, but I was pleased with Hedwig's death, it made it more meaning full to me. I still think Wormtail should have died...
Ah yes that coffee scene...well there is a reason that movie is the b*****d child and that's part of it. Hell most of what you listed makes that movie a b*****d child. I could handle the performance parts from GOF, I just wish that they didn't make it seem like Dumstrung was male only and BEAUXBATONS female only schools. Your right that time at the beggining could have been spent with Dumbledores visit to number 4 to pick Harry up, and instead of the Burrow scene they could have spent more time on Voldy's past.
O.o really? that's odd I will have to go check that out later.
WOOOOOOT! Just broke the 2k post line for the guild.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:56 pm
Blac Magik Nerevar Telvanni
More like burned at the stake treatment, forever banished to the ends of the Earth. We must never speak of it ever again.
His little freak out in GOF was a little much I agree there. It's like AD went a little bipolar there.
I was a little iffy when I heard that character deaths would change, but I was pleased with Hedwig's death, it made it more meaning full to me. I still think Wormtail should have died...
Ah yes that coffee scene...well there is a reason that movie is the b*****d child and that's part of it. Hell most of what you listed makes that movie a b*****d child. I could handle the performance parts from GOF, I just wish that they didn't make it seem like Dumstrung was male only and BEAUXBATONS female only schools. Your right that time at the beggining could have been spent with Dumbledores visit to number 4 to pick Harry up, and instead of the Burrow scene they could have spent more time on Voldy's past.
O.o really? that's odd I will have to go check that out later.
WOOOOOOT! Just broke the 2k post line for the guild.
It's hard to tell from the box art, I'll just have to watch the movies again to see.
And thanks I'm a posting monster Mwu-Ha-Ha-Ha!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:06 pm
Nerevar Telvanni Blac Magik Nerevar Telvanni
More like burned at the stake treatment, forever banished to the ends of the Earth. We must never speak of it ever again.
His little freak out in GOF was a little much I agree there. It's like AD went a little bipolar there.
I was a little iffy when I heard that character deaths would change, but I was pleased with Hedwig's death, it made it more meaning full to me. I still think Wormtail should have died...
Ah yes that coffee scene...well there is a reason that movie is the b*****d child and that's part of it. Hell most of what you listed makes that movie a b*****d child. I could handle the performance parts from GOF, I just wish that they didn't make it seem like Dumstrung was male only and BEAUXBATONS female only schools. Your right that time at the beggining could have been spent with Dumbledores visit to number 4 to pick Harry up, and instead of the Burrow scene they could have spent more time on Voldy's past.
O.o really? that's odd I will have to go check that out later.
WOOOOOOT! Just broke the 2k post line for the guild.
It's hard to tell from the box art, I'll just have to watch the movies again to see.
And thanks I'm a posting monster Mwu-Ha-Ha-Ha!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:07 pm
Warner Bros. has released the first deleted scene from Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1.
In it, Petunia talks with Harry at Privet Drive, telling him that he didn't only lose a mother that night at Godric's Hollow, she lost a sister.
I have to say that short little scene made me a little sad, it showed that Petunia does really care about Lily and in a way Harry as well. Can't wait to see the other deleted scenes once the DVD/BR sits store selves April 15th.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:18 pm
Y a m i - D h a m p i r || I completely agree. And then, when the final one is released and I getit to watch it a thousand more times, I will be depressed. Because it will be over. Curse J.K Rowling with her talent to make her characters so lovable and to have an amazing plot line that one could not possibly dislike. But, the series couldn't have gone on forever I suppose...
When I read the books, I always knew that there was something about Snape I wasn't understanding. I knew he wasn't as cruel as he seemed, and I knew that Dumbledore couldn't be as naive as I thought he was being. So when I read that scene (Where I literally bawled my eyes out...), I had a lot more respect for Snape. And, the battle, or course, will be epic. Although, I don't think I am going to be able to watch when Fred dies. I had a hard enough time when Dobby died... Let alone my favorite Weasley twin...||
I decided to move our conversation here to avoid a whole lot of OCC in the Hospital Wing.
I had my mine blown while reading the Prince's Tale I just sat there starring at the book for the longest before I could continue reading. My view of Snape change quite a bit with that story, even though it still doesn't really excuse the way he treated Harry though out the years.
Speaking of crying, I've admitted this to others here before, but I cry every single time I read Dumbledore's funeral scene, and when Dobby dies. Even in the movie theater I was chocking back tears as our little gray friend died. Now I like Fred and George a lot but I guess my mind was so packed with everything else that was going on I just didn't have the same reaction. I was shocked, OMG was I shocked that she would kill off one of the twins. I know that during the scene where they are standing over his body I'm have to chock back tears again.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:42 pm
Good idea...
I think the Prince's Tale makes perfect sense. It is the perfect way, in my mind, to explain everything. The way I see it is that he hated James to no end, not even his love for Lily could hide the fact that Harry was his and her son. So even though he loved Lily, he still felt resentfull towards James, and decided to take it all out on Harry. James was painted a good picture until Harry got to see into Snape's mind and memories about him, where they learned the truth. And obviously, his loyalty to Dumbledore and to Lily triumphed over the Dark Lord, which is why he didn't hurt Harry more than he did. He could have killed the boy if he wanted to, and probably could have gotten away with it because he was so effing brilliant.
To be honest, I cried through more than half of that book. When Ron left for the first time, Hedgewigs death (That really got to me...), the Malfoy's torturing Hermione, and so much more... Plus all the deaths (like knowing the little creevey brothers died! D: )... DH really just got to me. That book was just the perfect ending. Although, if Dolores Umbridge died, I probably would have cheered for joy and happiness. I hated that woman to no end...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:55 pm
Y a m i - D h a m p i r Good idea...
I think the Prince's Tale makes perfect sense. It is the perfect way, in my mind, to explain everything. The way I see it is that he hated James to no end, not even his love for Lily could hide the fact that Harry was his and her son. So even though he loved Lily, he still felt resentfull towards James, and decided to take it all out on Harry. James was painted a good picture until Harry got to see into Snape's mind and memories about him, where they learned the truth. And obviously, his loyalty to Dumbledore and to Lily triumphed over the Dark Lord, which is why he didn't hurt Harry more than he did. He could have killed the boy if he wanted to, and probably could have gotten away with it because he was so effing brilliant.
To be honest, I cried through more than half of that book. When Ron left for the first time, Hedgewigs death (That really got to me...), the Malfoy's torturing Hermione, and so much more... Plus all the deaths (like knowing the little creevey brothers died! D: )... DH really just got to me. That book was just the perfect ending. Although, if Dolores Umbridge died, I probably would have cheered for joy and happiness. I hated that woman to no end...
You have to remember that what Harry saw was a teenage version of his dad, and we all know that teenagers don't always make the best choices. James stopped being a toe rag that's why Lily started to like him later on.
I was mostly shocked by all the events you just listed, didn't cry expect for the parts that I mentioned. I know this much the torture scene in Part 1 of DH was brutal. OMG I wanted to leap out of my seat and help Hermione out if Harry and Ron didn't hurry up and escape. I mean at times it was almost hard to watch, and that just made it even more epic. Speaking of Umbridge oh I hate that woman something strong. In fact I don't think I've hated a fictional character more than I hate that woman. I just can't stand people who are power hungry bigots, they make my blood boil. I was so happy to learn that she was tossed into Azkaban for her crimes against Muggle-born's.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:12 pm
No, but James still stole Snape's love of his life away. That couldn't have been a very loving moment for Snape. They were childhood friends, and he loved her for long time. I'm sure that caused some resentful feelings...
Umbridge made me want to just... err. I wish someone would have just finished her off. Better yet, have the demeantors suck away her life with that kiss of theirs. That would have been better. Or, they could have tortured her. Or... Never mind. I just disliked her so much. She couldn't do anything right, and she was just so, like you said, power-hungry. I'm glad they made Dumbledores Army against her. Speaking if which.. I have some work to do... My friends and I have created a Dumbledores Army in school, and we actually plan on meeting to discuss Harry Potter. I'm so excited for it too.. Harry Potter shall never end. Ever.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:23 pm
Y a m i - D h a m p i r
No, but James still stole Snape's love of his life away. That couldn't have been a very loving moment for Snape. They were childhood friends, and he loved her for long time. I'm sure that caused some resentful feelings...
Umbridge made me want to just... err. I wish someone would have just finished her off. Better yet, have the demeantors suck away her life with that kiss of theirs. That would have been better. Or, they could have tortured her. Or... Never mind. I just disliked her so much. She couldn't do anything right, and she was just so, like you said, power-hungry. I'm glad they made Dumbledores Army against her. Speaking if which.. I have some work to do... My friends and I have created a Dumbledores Army in school, and we actually plan on meeting to discuss Harry Potter. I'm so excited for it too.. Harry Potter shall never end. Ever.
James is not soley responsible for Lily moving away from Snape. He did that himself with his involvement with the Dark Arts and hanging around with those students who where going to become Death Eaters, and with him calling Lily a Mudblood. She could only take so much before she had to give in and break ties with him.
I agree there is no punishment that seems good enough to deal with Umbridge. I know there are a few things that I would have like done to her, but they couldn't be printed in a book aimed at kids and young adults.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:35 pm
He may not have been soley responsible, but I don't think that Snape saw it that way. He wanted to blame someone, so James is who he blamed. That's just my view though. Maybe he did see that he was also partially to blame for his loss of Lily. J.K. Rowling did a phenominal job with all the characters in the book. I didn't even realize how many characters there were until now, and I don't think that she could have done anything better. Of course, the movies could have been better, but unless they planned on making fourteen movies, there was only so much that they could put in the movies. One thing they completely skipped over was S.P.E.W... I loved that little snippet of the books. Oh, and I agree with Ayamae. They didn't have to add things to the movie. Oh.. by the waaay.. xD My character is now in the Hospital wing... Just if you are curious.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
