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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:03 pm
duckmasta Golden Spider of Kumo Meh, I really am not sure if anyone will get around to making sealing jutsu, but I'm really not too fond of the idea of making litle pansy ones for Chunnin and on up... EDIT: I want it basically for it's heavy roots in Shintoism. Plus, where else in any guild have you actually seen a group like this that can trace their entire ancestory back to their Kami { God }. Plus in naruto there were plenty of people who used forces other than chakra. { Like those gladiator people, one had a weasel. } And I was just kinda wanting to show everyone that there are possibilities outside the bounds of chakra. As for the Restriction on taijutsu, I think I put they could only learn one style... I forgot to put only up to chuunin rank though... And As for their Talismen, I was thinking that they could have five for their rank they are now { Izanag and Izanam CAN ONLY BE CARRIED ONE AT A TIME } And then it goes to ten, fiften, twenty, twenty-five, thirty. Highest 1- Izanag/Izanam 5- Kage/Sannin 10- Jounin 15- Spec Jounin 20- Chuunin 25- Genin 30- Academy All in all they have more capabilities to tie together things, but I haven't given them stats for this guild. { Those are goingto take HEAVY tolls on them... Their absolute max on everything Tai except agility would be capped out at 25 NO EXCEPTIONS >.< } well I'll look over the system in that case but you do realize limiting any stats that have to do with Taijutsu also limits Endurance. That would be a foolish action. I know, which is why I'm allowing them to have so many Talismen. atleast one in every rank deal with something to evade damage, but it isn't all powerful.
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:57 pm
Golden Spider of Kumo duckmasta Golden Spider of Kumo Meh, I really am not sure if anyone will get around to making sealing jutsu, but I'm really not too fond of the idea of making litle pansy ones for Chunnin and on up... EDIT: I want it basically for it's heavy roots in Shintoism. Plus, where else in any guild have you actually seen a group like this that can trace their entire ancestory back to their Kami { God }. Plus in naruto there were plenty of people who used forces other than chakra. { Like those gladiator people, one had a weasel. } And I was just kinda wanting to show everyone that there are possibilities outside the bounds of chakra. As for the Restriction on taijutsu, I think I put they could only learn one style... I forgot to put only up to chuunin rank though... And As for their Talismen, I was thinking that they could have five for their rank they are now { Izanag and Izanam CAN ONLY BE CARRIED ONE AT A TIME } And then it goes to ten, fiften, twenty, twenty-five, thirty. Highest 1- Izanag/Izanam 5- Kage/Sannin 10- Jounin 15- Spec Jounin 20- Chuunin 25- Genin 30- Academy All in all they have more capabilities to tie together things, but I haven't given them stats for this guild. { Those are goingto take HEAVY tolls on them... Their absolute max on everything Tai except agility would be capped out at 25 NO EXCEPTIONS >.< } well I'll look over the system in that case but you do realize limiting any stats that have to do with Taijutsu also limits Endurance. That would be a foolish action. I know, which is why I'm allowing them to have so many Talismen. atleast one in every rank deal with something to evade damage, but it isn't all powerful. Don't forget that it limits one to only 25 posts of combat without damage, less so with damage.
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A City Of Fools Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:34 pm
Can you judge my bloodline Duck? o3o
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:37 pm
M o u r n ii n g W o o d Saishuu Clan Description:The members of the Saishuu Clan often made bloody messes when they fought, mostly to their opponents though sometimes to themselves. They were very renowned fighters because of their bloody massacres. Upon realizing this, they began to think, why couldn't they use this blood to help further their own jutsu's. So they began fighting each other, making bloody messes and fusing water with the blood to make it expand and become controllable. This took a long time to perfect, and because so many had to fight to secure this technique, most of the ninja's of the clan died from their own brethren's hands. To this day, after perfecting this technique, barely any of the clan exist, But they live on, strong and controlling of their blood techniques. They often have red hair, uncommon among ninja. Their eyes are often slitted and have small specks of red in the pupils and irises. The clan members usually have elaborate tattoos put on them after birth, which cover their entire body. Each tattoo means something different to the clan depending on the design. Strengths+Weaknesses: The members often have high blood count in their own body, and always have water jutsu on hand (meaning Suiton must be their main element). They have a physically high tolerance to pain as well. But their blood jutsus can be weak, depending on the person their fighting. If the user uses a water jutsu and changes it to blood (like using water prison jutsu and changing it to blood prison jutsu), it makes it 2 ranks stronger for blood being stronger the water. If hit with Raiton, it becomes electrically charged like any normal Suiton Jutsu. If it's hit with another suiton jutsu then it increases in size, and sound can't travel well through it. They also can only control the blood at a certain length away from themselves, often high ranking ninjas being up to a mile. The blood also dries by the heat of Katon, but can re-liquefy by the touch of suiton jutsu. The strong smell of blood can easily throw off people with extensive sense of smells like the inuzuka clan as well as summons with extensive sense of smells. [Except sharks] Ability: The Saishuu clan is known for it's ability to create and use blood technique jutsus similar to their water jutsus. By putting a small amount of water that's filled with chakra into the foe or the user's blood that has spilled out over the battlefield, the user can expand and control the blood that the water has been put in to. The blood from the chakra has traces of the user's chakra, making sensor's able to locate their blood chakra's as easily as they would the user. The blood techniques have the same rank as the person whose blood has been used, meaning if the user of the technique is using an a Chunnin's blood, then the technique will have the power of a chunnin and not of whoever was using it. The user must be careful if they use their own blood... Bloodline/Clan Jutsus:Name of Jutsu: Blood Manipulation Rank of Jutsu: Gennin Amount of Blood needed: From a small amount to large amount, depending on what's wanted Description: The user at this level begins to learn how to manipulate very small amounts of blood. Of course the high rank the user is the more they can control. At Gennin, they can control very small amounts, but by Kage or S rank, they can learn to control very large amounts.
Name of Jutsu: Blood Shape Rank of Jutsu: Chunin Amount of Blood needed: Same as Blood manipulation Description: At this level, the user will begin to learn to mold the blood into different shapes and sizes to help them, after learning the manipulation. At Chunnin they can make small birds of blood, and at higher ranks, even larger things.
Name of Jutsu: Blood Track Rank of Jutsu: Chunin Amount of Blood needed: Small Description: The user at this level of control will start to learn how to track their blood, and know where it is by feeling around for it. This can become incredibly good for tracking assignments.
Name of Jutsu: Blood Steal Rank of Jutsu: Chunin Amount of Blood needed: However much the user needs Description: The user begins to manipulate cuts from the foe to pull blood from the opponent's blood stream, only after inserting a small amount of chakra filled water. This allows them to make more blood, and steal it from the opponent. Of course, all blood techniques that use the opponent's chakra will be the same strength as the opponent.
Name of Jutsu: Blood Cannon Rank of Jutsu: Jounin Amount of Blood needed: medium Description: By getting a medium amount of blood, they begin to highly condense it into a small sphere in which they shoot out at the foe at a very great speed. The user can also make them ricochet from physical objects.
Name of Jutsu: Blood Blade Rank of Jutsu: Jounin Amount of Blood needed: Medium Description: By focusing a certain amount of blood around the user's hand, the user forces and extends the blood to make fang like blades of blood come from the back of their hands. This can be used from the opponent's own blood as well, if they make cuts on their hands. Numerous blades can be made as well, if needed.
Name of Jutsu: Blood Clone Rank of Jutsu: Jounin Amount of Blood needed: Large Description: By controlling the blood, they can make a clone of themselves from it, that has a very dense property, and can have the same amount of power the user has. Pretty much a water clone but more dense.
Name of Jutsu: Blood Shield Rank of Jutsu: Jounin Amount of Blood needed: Dependent on user's need Description: The user gets the amount of blood needed to quickly spiral around one point, and then compacts it and things it out, making it dense but still thin. This quickly makes a shield in the point the user wishes, or possibly all around them in a sphere if wanted.
Name of Jutsu: Blood Typhoon Rank of Jutsu: S rank/Kage Amount of Blood needed: Very Large Description: The user begins by getting a very large amount of blood and surging it all into one point. Then with force, they push it forward to begin to make a spiral made of blood that will be thrown like a small typhoon at the foe. Clan Head: Vercingetorix Saishuu - - - ....I like the idea of a blood manipulating clan, however, there are a few noticeable problems with this clan. 1. it can use the opponents blood as well as their own. 2. It gains a very easy bonus of 2 ranks to any water jutsu performed with blood. 3. Most of the techniques listed are highly generic. Meaning they can do pretty much whatever you wish. 4. They gain bonuses from 2 different elements and really have only one weakness. I will expand on these 4 points when I return later this evening but I must get to class.
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A City Of Fools Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:57 pm
Well as for using the opponents blood, it doesn't suck their blood out or anything. It pretty much means that if the opponent is cut, any blood that comes out is mine to use.
Without that bonus it has pretty much nothing that changes it from water except that it looks like blood and it has some extra weaknesses.
Ok I'll change the raiton to still affecting it. After that would the strengths and weaknesses be ok?
As for the generic thing. I just made a basic outline for stuff to show the limits. I mean how you use the trick is up to the user, so generic or not makes no difference. I'll be making customs later on for my own character.
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:08 pm
M o u r n ii n g W o o d Well as for using the opponents blood, it doesn't suck their blood out or anything. It pretty much means that if the opponent is cut, any blood that comes out is mine to use. Without that bonus it has pretty much nothing that changes it from water except that it looks like blood and it has some extra weaknesses. Ok I'll change the raiton to still affecting it. After that would the strengths and weaknesses be ok? As for the generic thing. I just made a basic outline for stuff to show the limits. I mean how you use the trick is up to the user, so generic or not makes no difference. I'll be making customs later on for my own character. 1. it can use the opponents blood as well as their own. I have no problem with this, but you cannot drain someone of their blood. any blood shed is available for use, I just figured it would be cooler to make them more Masochistic as a necessity. Thus they perform bloodletting themselves because they produce an excessive amount of blood. in addition the rank of the ninja will not effect the rank of the jutsu. Meaning just because your Sanin instructor dies a horribly painful death, does not mean you can thus use the obviously large pool of blood surrounding him to fire off S-rank jutsu at Genin-Chunin level. 2. It gains a very easy bonus of 2 ranks to any water jutsu performed with blood. I believe if anything the jutsu will only gain +1 rank and will be composed entirely of blood but act in the fashion of the water jutsu. The +1 rank is even stretching it. I mean all it really has become is a cosmetic change. if you want a rank increase you can take ability control or elemental control as a Shinobi type. 3. Most of the techniques listed are highly generic. Meaning they can do pretty much whatever you wish. This makes it harder for actual customization or greater range of techniques. It opens a variety of choices but most jutsu have one specific task to perform. 4. They gain bonuses from 2 different elements and really have only one weakness. I don't mind the Raiton part. If you want to enlarge the blood jutsu via suiton it's fine as well but it will receive -X ranks in power. X of course being determined by how large you intend to make the technique spread.
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A City Of Fools Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:53 pm
@Duck: 1. Ok, I just thought it could be a double edged sword, especially for a sanin you know? As I said, they dont drain their blood. They take blood that has left the oppponents body.
2. It gains the 2 rank bonus because blood is far denser than water making it thicker and harder when its hitting something. Its like the difference between hitting someone with a plastic hollow bat and a wooden bat. O:
3. How so? The customization is up to the one who makes such custom techniques. That has everything to do with their own creativity.
4. No the raiton doesn't really make any sense anyways. No thats how they control the blood in the first place by using suiton to expand the blood to make up for the lack of it because you can only hold so much blood. So that weakness wouldn't make much sense. I'll say that raiton dries it up just like katon. O:
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:07 pm
M o u r n ii n g W o o d @Duck: 1. Ok, I just thought it could be a double edged sword, especially for a sanin you know? As I said, they dont drain their blood. They take blood that has left the oppponents body. 2. It gains the 2 rank bonus because blood is far denser than water making it thicker and harder when its hitting something. Its like the difference between hitting someone with a plastic hollow bat and a wooden bat. O: 3. How so? The customization is up to the one who makes such custom techniques. That has everything to do with their own creativity. 4. No the raiton doesn't really make any sense anyways. No thats how they control the blood in the first place by using suiton to expand the blood to make up for the lack of it because you can only hold so much blood. So that weakness wouldn't make much sense. I'll say that raiton dries it up just like katon. O: 1. Generally speaking a double edged sword, is one that simultaneously gives bonus while providing penalties. Not that you are incorrect about it being one or anything. You can use another's blood, you just don't gain anything other than, well more blood. 2. Why yes, Blood is in fact thicker than water. Although if you're using suiton to expand it, then you are diluting the blood making it rather useless as an increase in power. That is why I would at most give it +1 rank in power, in reality it is more of a cosmetic change as stated. 3. I can see your point here and I will concede it. I will state however that I would like it to be more specific, but it is not a requirement. 4. See point two.
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:11 pm
Just a little tid bit thingy. Blood contains Iron, which would lead to it being more conductive. However I've learned in the naruto guilds I've been in that Raiton doesn't do anything to suiton besides channel through it. Suiton isn't weak to Raiton... it just reacts with it.
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:01 pm
@Kumo: Raiton [Lightning] is extremely concentrated heat so much that it becomes plasma, and that means that if fire can dry out blood then logically raiton would have the same effect if not more so.
@Duck: 1. Well they would get blood without using their own thus weakening themselves but at the same time it would be of the same rank of the one whom they had gotten the blood from because it holds their chakra within it.
2. True enough [Was working on naruto logic not real logic] >>
3. I'll keep it how it is.
4. I'll still make it a weakness. It is logical really now that I think about it.
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A City Of Fools Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:08 pm
Don't wanna add to the fire here xD but for number one... Maybe duck is right? Why well... Quote: Name of Jutsu: Blood Steal Rank of Jutsu: Chunin Amount of Blood needed: However much the user needs Description: The user begins to manipulate cuts from the foe to pull blood from the opponent's blood stream, only after inserting a small amount of chakra filled water. This allows them to make more blood, and steal it from the opponent. Of course, all blood techniques that use the opponent's chakra will be the same strength as the opponent. One of the tricks... Steals blood from an open wound.
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:11 pm
M o u r n ii n g W o o d @Kumo: Raiton [Lightning] is extremely concentrated heat so much that it becomes plasma, and that means that if fire can dry out blood then logically raiton would have the same effect if not more so. @Duck: 1. Well they would get blood without using their own thus weakening themselves but at the same time it would be of the same rank of the one whom they had gotten the blood from because it holds their chakra within it. 2. True enough [Was working on naruto logic not real logic] >> 3. I'll keep it how it is. 4. I'll still make it a weakness. It is logical really now that I think about it. 1. Chakra isn't in the blood, Chakra is the combination of both physical and mental energies. The reason people can harm themselves via chakra loss is because it burns the natural energy of the body thus lowering the amount usable by the organs. You would have to mold their chakra and that would be rather OP. In addition it is neither their rank nor How powerful their chakra is that increases the power (unless it's a bijuu's Chakra, which is far more dense than normal human chakra) but the amount of chakra fed into the technique.
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A City Of Fools Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:14 pm
@Duck: Ok, well I'll take that part out as well. Any comments on the rest or after all that it will be good?
@Crow: I forgot to fix that. Lol. I'll change it when I edit in all the changes.
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:20 pm
PsychoCrow Don't wanna add to the fire here xD but for number one... Maybe duck is right? Why well... Quote: Name of Jutsu: Blood Steal Rank of Jutsu: Chunin Amount of Blood needed: However much the user needs Description: The user begins to manipulate cuts from the foe to pull blood from the opponent's blood stream, only after inserting a small amount of chakra filled water. This allows them to make more blood, and steal it from the opponent. Of course, all blood techniques that use the opponent's chakra will be the same strength as the opponent. One of the tricks... Steals blood from an open wound. My very point. You can not suck the blood out merely use that which is already out. You can't control someone else's blood unless you prepare it prior. That's why I offered the Idea that they produce excessive amounts of blood and thus must perform bloodletting on themselves. In that case, every round of combat instead of subtracting -1 endurance, you might subtract -3 to -5 but gain a +1 rank in power to all your blood jutsu. In essence you designed this clan to use blood in a very similar way in which the Ichibi's container manipulates sand. In that very aspect if you had no other bonuses it would've been fine. unfortunately, the reason I have so many problems with this is that you have stacked bonuses upon bonuses without providing sufficient Penalties to match. EDIT: I'll take a look at it after you finish editing, just re-post it. EDIT2: If you re-post it tonight I will look at it tomorrow or rather later today. It's 12:30 where I am and I need to get some rest.
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A City Of Fools Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:26 pm
@Duck: Yes, that trick was badly worded. It was meant differently. Well now its weak to both fire and lightning. O:
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