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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:53 am


~Ichigo_Pie~
PitifulSoulLostInDarkness
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moon_the_angel_of_hell
You don't have to have Jesus in your heart to keep demons away. If you call them there is a chance they might take over your body...if you don't call them then it'll be ok. They don't randomly pop up and take over ppl; they have to be called by someone. Like on the Ouija Board...call for a demon and you might just get taken over.
=/ I think it's a load of crap. I played with Ouija's all my life with my friends and I have NEVER had a spiritual meeting. Hell, the things are sold in the board games/toys departments.

Have you tried asking who's there when you use the board and stuff?? And omg you rock XP and you make very good points and i totally agree ^^


haha ^^;; several people have dubbed me the "Queen-Of-Prove-You-Wrong-Ism"

Thank you =) I have had this argument so many times I practically have it memorized, but I will admit, this is the most ignorant person I have argued against. At least the other Christians I've gone against recognize other religions as separate religions. And they understand that their religion isn't superior... but this person >.O it made me want to pull my hair out the moment I came in. I'm glad you took the time to read them, I'm sure Miss Bible Humper is going to ignore it because it's long and intelligent and she knows she can't combat that. LOL. I showed my boyfriend my post, he says that I pulled the whoop a** out on her and he actually feels sorry for me putting her in such a position but she brought it on herself - trying to be all self-righteous.

And yeah, we've tried to talk to the board, it never did anything... I think a friend was moving it too... I could feel it lightly jerk from the pads skipping on the board from pressure... if it was a spirit it would have just glided on it, ne? I dunno, I think it's a little too played up. I think people's excitement from it is so high that they imagine it's really doing something... Then again, I'm a Psychology Major in college so I tend to think logically immediately, enough to keep me from getting excited.


Nice, well you know that everyone has to be open minded. I wrote a high school paper on how to use the ouija. =3 I got an A. Just know that Pitiful, Fang, and I...are on your side 24/7 Lol. You rock.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:27 pm


well I appreciate it a lot XD

MatchaCosmos


kagomefox

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:33 am


Irish Orchid
kagomefox
Irish Orkid Wrote:
personally i believe SCIENCE and LOGIC
things in this world that make ******** sense

Yeah that science and logic stuff make sense alright were is the logice of al the unknowns the Big Bang Theory (matter-were did it come from? -don't know /well how is it possible for the planets to be spinning in different directions and axes? when if it was all spinning matter went bang and spread forming our solar system in the same direction all the planets would have to be spin in the same direction so how is that possible?- well we don't know/What caused the matter to spin and then bang?- we don't know/ how come there has been no sucessful recreation attempt to make the process happen again?- because it didn't happen- when all Christians don't know is where God came from (only because he was just there dosen't work for an answer)
You mean that Logic or Monkeys-to Man thing cause we still have monkeys here today and frankly I don't see how it could have happened I mean THere could be similarities because they had a Common Creator- God
I mean Adaptaion sure but changing Species now way.


are you ******** serious, how can you not believe in evolution, it is a proven fact, they dont just change species over ******** night, thousands if not millions of year are needed for that


it seems to me that you are a typical cristian, too blind too see the truth even if its right in from of their faces

AND if there was a god, if i was /her i would have kill all of you stupid humans a long time again

grow up kiddy, face the facts, god isnt going to help you, science is real and god is not

(oh and dont you dare try to debate against me if you can even spell its ORCHID not orKid )


i do believe in some science, but evolution i believe in adaptation as in a crature adapting to there seroundings but not in monkey to man thing that has yet to be proven and i refuse to believe that.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:39 am


~Ichigo_Pie~
kagomefox
Irish Orkid Wrote:
personally i believe SCIENCE and LOGIC
things in this world that make ******** sense

Yeah that science and logic stuff make sense alright were is the logice of al the unknowns the Big Bang Theory (matter-were did it come from? -don't know /well how is it possible for the planets to be spinning in different directions and axes? when if it was all spinning matter went bang and spread forming our solar system in the same direction all the planets would have to be spin in the same direction so how is that possible?- well we don't know/What caused the matter to spin and then bang?- we don't know/ how come there has been no sucessful recreation attempt to make the process happen again?- because it didn't happen- when all Christians don't know is where God came from (only because he was just there dosen't work for an answer)
You mean that Logic or Monkeys-to Man thing cause we still have monkeys here today and frankly I don't see how it could have happened I mean THere could be similarities because they had a Common Creator- God
I mean Adaptaion sure but changing Species now way.


-_-;;; Books, do you read them? Seriously. You don't sound like you know anything about the theories of existence EXCEPT what the christian faith has brainwashed you into believing. Please, if there is a God up above, I hope s/he NEVER allows you to procreate, and if you already have kids, God give them more common sense than he gifted you with. It's just cruel how much common sense you lack.

1- Big Bang Theory is not a simple poof and here we are. AND WHY THE HELL WOULD WE RECREATE IT?!?!?!

Big BANG should be enough context clues to let you know there was a universe-sized EXPLOSION! If we recreated it, we would cause a universe-wide Apocalypse... That's suicide. We don't care enough to risk the entire universe to find out why we're here.

2- The spinning. All planets revolve in the same direction around the sun. We tilt on our axes because of the gravitational pull as we revolve. This is like 3rd grade science -_-;; Seriously? You don't know this stuff?

3- We have logical theories that make more since of where the universe came from. If you don't know where your God came from, not even an IDEA of where he came from, that makes creationism just that much more illogical. At least we have ideas of how evolution came around, and ideas of the big bang theory coming around.

4- and you know what? we still have tigers. The four remaining sub species we have now are four of seven, these seven evolved then ADAPTED from the saber-toothed tiger. We still have people every so often that are born with a recessive gene that gives them extra links on their tale bones so they have a protruding tail bone. Even more rare than that, some people have been born with short tails. Recessive traits still come up. We have people quite commonly born with a scientifically abnormal amount of excessive body hair, like an Ape.

I'm not saying anything specific, but the big bang theory and evolution make a LOT more sense than an invisible, all-knowing, powerful deity created the entire universe, with his magic powers. Seriously.

and at the top you said::
personally i believe SCIENCE and LOGIC
things in this world that make sense

1- If you're just going to censor your cuss words, then use a different word -_-;;; those asterisks are ******** annoying.

2- you believe in things that make sense? wow... I would have never got this, you know, with the believing that an invisible man created man out of shits and rainbows, then took his liver out put some dirt on it and it made a woman. THEN, to add to that, you believe in shape shifting demons that take the form of a talking snake that can trick a woman into eating fruit and taking some back to the guy who was not exposed to the snake but was still manipulated into eating making fruit that made them realize, "Oh- s**t! We're naked O__o;; Let's wear leaves so we don't feel ashamed, but we're supposed to be husband and wife. and We have to have sex to have our two kids, but we're ashamed of our bodies"

=/

yes, makes perfect sense, my world is crystal clear now. [/sarcasm]

and... christians believe children are loved and are a gift from god... but ... god created childbirth as a punishment for eve... Yes, he really wanted kids. He got mad and said, now you have fully developed ovaries and a uterus.

Creationism and Christianity makes NO SENSE. There is NO logical explanation for it. Sure, if you just accept Big Invisible Man In The Sky..... but some of us aren't so easily amused. It's going to take a lot more than some slight of hand and illusions to brainwash me.


okay first off i wasn't attacking you and i don't appreaceate you saying you hope i don't have kids okay second i do read and i happen to know that there is not way the big bang is possible when your own presious science says it isn't possible it is nothing more than ideas or theroies okay it isn't my fault that they have so many unknows do you realize it takes for faith to believe in the big bang than christianity that is the sad part. so Yes i DO have Common Sense thanks and i love you you all say christians are the ones that attack you when your are the one attacking me for depating you topic.

kagomefox


kagomefox

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:40 am


i don't much like Ouija's and have had a bad experiance were mine did deal with spirits i think they are ticking time bombs but if you feel the need to use them have at.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:10 pm


kagomefox

okay first off i wasn't attacking you and i don't appreaceate you saying you hope i don't have kids okay second i do read and i happen to know that there is not way the big bang is possible when your own presious science says it isn't possible it is nothing more than ideas or theroies okay it isn't my fault that they have so many unknows do you realize it takes for faith to believe in the big bang than christianity that is the sad part. so Yes i DO have Common Sense thanks and i love you you all say christians are the ones that attack you when your are the one attacking me for depating you topic.

And I don't appreciate you spouting off ignorant bullshit as fact when there isn't any truth to half of what you're saying. If you weren't so closed minded and ignorant I wouldn't bother with your reproductive status, but as you are now, you will just be another parent that brainwashes their children into only ever seeing something from one view point. Just as you can only see from your view point.

yes, the Big Bang Theory is a plausible theory. There is a possibility that it could have happened, and yes, our scientists have said it is probable. I have no idea where you're getting your facts from, but you obviously need to stop going there. If our scientists thought it was impossible, they would have dismissed the theory. It isn't just a simple thing of Kaboom here it is; like you want to believe. It didn't happen over night. It starts with atoms (the most simple and basic of matter). Atoms are high energy being contained in a vacuum. They're bouncing off each other at high energy. Well, one gets too much energy and explodes, that one atom exploding sets off a domino effect and all the atoms get off balance from that one explosion so they explode. After any explosion, there is always dust and particles and gases that are formed, and over time these materials gather and create what we have. Science came up with the theory and it's a damn good one to explain how the universe happen (since evolution does not explain the entire universe being created) and it makes a LOT more sense then believing an invisible man that no one has seen created everything from farts and rainbows. We have a starting point. As everything does. We may be missing gaps of how this came from this or this went to this, but we have a starting point and we have an ending point. Creationism doesn't have a starting point.

If you want to believe in creationism, that's your view, and your opinion, but do NOT EVER sit there and say that the other theories are crack pot theories or that they're impossible because you have faith in your God. EVERY theory has supporters, EVERY theory has its pros and cons to belief, and none are more or less probable that any others. It's just that some make more sense. But that doesn't mean creationism didn't happen and that doesn't mean that evolution didn't happen either.

Stop being so high and mighty that YOU know how everything happened because it was written in a book. Just because it's in a book doesn't make it true.

Two, it doesn't take any faith at all to believe that atoms exploded and resulted in our universe. There is no God or Deity involved in that. Friction and chain reactions is all it takes.

If you had common sense, you'd think for yourself and not just believe whatever you read in a book that you think runs the world. Common sense is being able to see logic for what it is, and accepting it as a possibility. You shoot out any possibility as impossible if it conflicts with your beliefs. That's why you're ignorant. You can't see anything outside of your beliefs. You mock anything that isn't in your stupid book.

Ironically, this is YOUR topic and we're not attacking you. We're pointing out flaws in your argument. You started this s**t by spouting so much false "facts." I am not attacking you for being Christian. I have many Christian friends and I love them dearly and respect their beliefs.

You're not being attacked because of your beliefs. You're being attacked because of your ignorance. Your religion is being attacked because morons like you are saying that Christianity is the only real possibility. That you are disrespectful to other religions. You are disrespectful to other people.

You get treated badly because you claim so highly of your religion, yet you don't even follow your religion.

You judge people - which your god says not to do. You say people are going to hell for not believing in your god. You treat people like they're below you because you think you have all the answers because they were written by god through man.

Half of the s**t you said in all of your posts. the stuff you claim is fact. it's all utter bull s**t and I think you're just pulling s**t out of your a** and saying it. You said that that passage said satanism and paganism were the same and they aren't. and that bible passage you quoted didn't say a damn thing about satanists for one, didn't say a thing about hell. AND it said the differences between the three occult things it did mention. People who practice witchcraft, Soothsayers (fire psychics or fire readers) who read omens, or a sorcerer who conjures spells (even your bible admitted a difference between witchcraft and spells), a contact medium (there's no such thing as a spiritist so your bible quote is tarded, there's a religion called spiritualism where seances are performed by a contact medium, and even and ORDAINED MINISTER leads them occasionally) or one who calls up the dead.

Your bible mentioned ALL of those as separate religions and mentions none of them being led by Lucifer. so you don't even know what your bible passages are saying.

Seriously, understand your bible before spouting nonsense.

You can believe all the retardation that you want, but what we want you to stop doing (and what not only you but the majority of those in your religion) is to stop condemning others for believing what we believe, and don't EVEN give me that snarky bullshit of "I'm not condemning you, you can do whatever you like because I know that my god is right"

that's the exact bullshit that we want stopped. We don't tell you to stop believing in your god. I haven't seen one post about it. But you get so offended if we say that it's bullshit. At least we don't sit here and say that your beliefs are impossible. We say they make no sense, but we never said they could not have happened.

Learn to shut your mouth and open your mind next time. You know, educate yourself before you start talking. Just about everything you have said is false, and most of it made up by brainwashed christians who misinterpret their bible passages.

And stop telling people they're going to hell. You'll end up there if you continue because God said leave that to him.

MatchaCosmos


MatchaCosmos

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:21 pm


kagomefox
Irish Orchid
kagomefox
Irish Orkid Wrote:
personally i believe SCIENCE and LOGIC
things in this world that make ******** sense

Yeah that science and logic stuff make sense alright were is the logice of al the unknowns the Big Bang Theory (matter-were did it come from? -don't know /well how is it possible for the planets to be spinning in different directions and axes? when if it was all spinning matter went bang and spread forming our solar system in the same direction all the planets would have to be spin in the same direction so how is that possible?- well we don't know/What caused the matter to spin and then bang?- we don't know/ how come there has been no sucessful recreation attempt to make the process happen again?- because it didn't happen- when all Christians don't know is where God came from (only because he was just there dosen't work for an answer)
You mean that Logic or Monkeys-to Man thing cause we still have monkeys here today and frankly I don't see how it could have happened I mean THere could be similarities because they had a Common Creator- God
I mean Adaptaion sure but changing Species now way.


are you ******** serious, how can you not believe in evolution, it is a proven fact, they dont just change species over ******** night, thousands if not millions of year are needed for that


it seems to me that you are a typical cristian, too blind too see the truth even if its right in from of their faces

AND if there was a god, if i was /her i would have kill all of you stupid humans a long time again

grow up kiddy, face the facts, god isnt going to help you, science is real and god is not

(oh and dont you dare try to debate against me if you can even spell its ORCHID not orKid )


i do believe in some science, but evolution i believe in adaptation as in a crature adapting to there seroundings but not in monkey to man thing that has yet to be proven and i refuse to believe that.


None of the theories have yet to be proven hence why they are still theories
PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:51 pm


either you deserve an award or you need to be crowned queen of the cult and religions forum sense that was one of the best posts ive seen so far on this topic

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:37 pm


kagomefox
i don't much like Ouija's and have had a bad experiance were mine did deal with spirits i think they are ticking time bombs but if you feel the need to use them have at.


People like you, who have no idea what spirits are like shouldn't used the Ouija. You're the perfect person to get taken over by a demon.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:38 pm


Sheagorath_The_MadGod
either you deserve an award or you need to be crowned queen of the cult and religions forum sense that was one of the best posts ive seen so far on this topic


stare stare stare stare stare

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:56 pm


moon_the_angel_of_hell
kagomefox
i don't much like Ouija's and have had a bad experiance were mine did deal with spirits i think they are ticking time bombs but if you feel the need to use them have at.


People like you, who have no idea what spirits are like shouldn't used the Ouija. You're the perfect person to get taken over by a demon.


Not only this, but it furthers my accusation of Christians ignoring their God. Their God claims Ouija Boards as "Evil" and that anyone who tampers with them is an abomination on his religion.

Hmm... She's a model Christian huh? Walking around Telling people they're going to hell, Making up false "facts", Disrespecting Other People for their beliefs, Playing in the Occult.

She's racking up the wrath of God isn't she?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:07 pm


~Ichigo_Pie~
moon_the_angel_of_hell
kagomefox
i don't much like Ouija's and have had a bad experiance were mine did deal with spirits i think they are ticking time bombs but if you feel the need to use them have at.


People like you, who have no idea what spirits are like shouldn't used the Ouija. You're the perfect person to get taken over by a demon.


Not only this, but it furthers my accusation of Christians ignoring their God. Their God claims Ouija Boards as "Evil" and that anyone who tampers with them is an abomination on his religion.

Hmm... She's a model Christian huh? Walking around Telling people they're going to hell, Making up false "facts", Disrespecting Other People for their beliefs, Playing in the Occult.

She's racking up the wrath of God isn't she?


She is...in that case. I'll gladly see her in hell.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:42 pm


moon_the_angel_of_hell
~Ichigo_Pie~
moon_the_angel_of_hell
kagomefox
i don't much like Ouija's and have had a bad experiance were mine did deal with spirits i think they are ticking time bombs but if you feel the need to use them have at.


People like you, who have no idea what spirits are like shouldn't used the Ouija. You're the perfect person to get taken over by a demon.


Not only this, but it furthers my accusation of Christians ignoring their God. Their God claims Ouija Boards as "Evil" and that anyone who tampers with them is an abomination on his religion.

Hmm... She's a model Christian huh? Walking around Telling people they're going to hell, Making up false "facts", Disrespecting Other People for their beliefs, Playing in the Occult.

She's racking up the wrath of God isn't she?


She is...in that case. I'll gladly see her in hell.

damn... i guess im going to hell too
I guess ill put it this way:
•I let others believe what they want, i may try to get them to go to church, but if they believe in their god..whats to stop them?
•I have friends of many religions, having friends who arent christian doesnt mean you arent a christian...as long as you admit that you believe in god..
•the evolution theory: i believe it but really who says god didnt do it
•atheism: my friends athiest but you know what? he believes science makes more sense than god.. put it this way, if theres no reason for it to happen why do it? same with atoms, if its negative or positive it will react but if its perfect why bother? Life its self ends so fast, and in that time people need to learn and believe in atleast something. if they dont they may never life to their full purpose, enjoy life at all, and understand that without motivation or an 'ultimate cause' whats there to look forward to?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:18 pm


shibiryu
moon_the_angel_of_hell
~Ichigo_Pie~
moon_the_angel_of_hell
kagomefox
i don't much like Ouija's and have had a bad experiance were mine did deal with spirits i think they are ticking time bombs but if you feel the need to use them have at.


People like you, who have no idea what spirits are like shouldn't used the Ouija. You're the perfect person to get taken over by a demon.


Not only this, but it furthers my accusation of Christians ignoring their God. Their God claims Ouija Boards as "Evil" and that anyone who tampers with them is an abomination on his religion.

Hmm... She's a model Christian huh? Walking around Telling people they're going to hell, Making up false "facts", Disrespecting Other People for their beliefs, Playing in the Occult.

She's racking up the wrath of God isn't she?


She is...in that case. I'll gladly see her in hell.

damn... i guess im going to hell too
I guess ill put it this way:
•I let others believe what they want, i may try to get them to go to church, but if they believe in their god..whats to stop them?
•I have friends of many religions, having friends who arent christian doesnt mean you arent a christian...as long as you admit that you believe in god..
•the evolution theory: i believe it but really who says god didnt do it
•atheism: my friends athiest but you know what? he believes science makes more sense than god.. put it this way, if theres no reason for it to happen why do it? same with atoms, if its negative or positive it will react but if its perfect why bother? Life its self ends so fast, and in that time people need to learn and believe in atleast something. if they dont they may never life to their full purpose, enjoy life at all, and understand that without motivation or an 'ultimate cause' whats there to look forward to?


I'm not saying anything about her religion. I'm saying that to me it makes no sense and to some others, it makes no sense. And she should stop spreading her opinions and beliefs as fact when there is no factual evidence that any one of the theories happened more than any other.

I'm glad you respect others. And I assume you're christian (please forgive the bold assumption, I really only read posts that pertain to me so if you've mentioned it ^^) because you've mentioned Church. <333 Please let me know if I'm wrong. If so, I will apologize for such a quick and large assumption

MatchaCosmos


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:57 am


It doesn't pay for people to be ingnorat. >.< -bad speller-
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