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 Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:48 pm
brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO Semiremis It's not that simple to fix. Historically, psychologists have considered obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) a challenging disorder to treat, with significant numbers of patients failing to benefit from treatment. The heterogeneity of the population and the complexity of the disorder have been contributing factors. However, cognitive–behavioral treatments are showing great promise, particularly when delivered with pharmacotherapy and tailored to the unique characteristics of each OCD subtype.SourceWhy such a seemingly strong aversion to medication? You're not an expert on the subject, medication helps a lot with a large variety of disorders, no one here is saying that it should be taken as a substitute for therapy or without caution but you seem willing to deny something that could greatly help to increase the quality of life for an individual. Why is that? Of course it's difficult- there is no easy fix. Simple enough as it follows the patterns of psychoneurosis but it's never easy. It's a simple enough thing- on an individual case basis it can be highly useful but when generalised it both undermines humanity and is at the rot that has left American Psychology intellectually impotent for decades. I am however expert.
Claims of expertise mean nothing.Of course- but I do not like to let undue detractions go uncorrected. I can only at best oblige you to believe me, that and to ask that I may remain unslandered.
If you're an expert you should have no problem proving your point.
If you want to keep your credibility, only post things that you can back up.None at all. At this hour I'll have difficulty with many simple tasks. Far too time consuming, I'll post what happens to be true and hopefully share a few laughs too.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:49 pm
brainnsoup CH1YO Semiremis CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew You're Welcome.
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child. Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert. It's not that simple to fix. Historically, psychologists have considered obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) a challenging disorder to treat, with significant numbers of patients failing to benefit from treatment. The heterogeneity of the population and the complexity of the disorder have been contributing factors. However, cognitive–behavioral treatments are showing great promise, particularly when delivered with pharmacotherapy and tailored to the unique characteristics of each OCD subtype.SourceWhy such a seemingly strong aversion to medication? You're not an expert on the subject, medication helps a lot with a large variety of disorders, no one here is saying that it should be taken as a substitute for therapy or without caution but you seem willing to deny something that could greatly help to increase the quality of life for an individual. Why is that? Of course it's difficult- there is no easy fix. Simple enough as it follows the patterns of psychoneurosis but it's never easy. It's a simple enough thing- on an individual case basis it can be highly useful but when generalised it both undermines humanity and is at the rot that has left American Psychology intellectually impotent for decades. I am however expert.
Claims of expertise mean nothing.
gonk But.. what about me?
I'm not an expert in anything!!!
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:49 pm
CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup @CH1YO: You are either naturally argumentative, or the most succesful troll I have ever met. XD
Proof?
@Lumanny: Give Freud a break. Yeah, a lot of his ideas don't hold up today. But he started from pretty much nothing, yeah? Can't I be two things? They're mostly right- imperfect but seldom far from ideal.
But again: Proof? Source? Something?Jolly good. Psychoanalysis?
That was fun.
Got a link?Pardon me? A link to what? A study and practice?
I'm not calling you a liar.
I'm not calling you a troll.
But you've given us nothing.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:50 pm
Lumanny the Space Jew brainnsoup CH1YO Semiremis CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew You're Welcome.
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child. Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert. It's not that simple to fix. Historically, psychologists have considered obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) a challenging disorder to treat, with significant numbers of patients failing to benefit from treatment. The heterogeneity of the population and the complexity of the disorder have been contributing factors. However, cognitive–behavioral treatments are showing great promise, particularly when delivered with pharmacotherapy and tailored to the unique characteristics of each OCD subtype.SourceWhy such a seemingly strong aversion to medication? You're not an expert on the subject, medication helps a lot with a large variety of disorders, no one here is saying that it should be taken as a substitute for therapy or without caution but you seem willing to deny something that could greatly help to increase the quality of life for an individual. Why is that? Of course it's difficult- there is no easy fix. Simple enough as it follows the patterns of psychoneurosis but it's never easy. It's a simple enough thing- on an individual case basis it can be highly useful but when generalised it both undermines humanity and is at the rot that has left American Psychology intellectually impotent for decades. I am however expert.
Claims of expertise mean nothing.
I'm not an expert in anything!!!That seems fair- you do get by fine however. Socratic nonsense notwithstanding.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:51 pm
CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO Semiremis It's not that simple to fix. Historically, psychologists have considered obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) a challenging disorder to treat, with significant numbers of patients failing to benefit from treatment. The heterogeneity of the population and the complexity of the disorder have been contributing factors. However, cognitive–behavioral treatments are showing great promise, particularly when delivered with pharmacotherapy and tailored to the unique characteristics of each OCD subtype.SourceWhy such a seemingly strong aversion to medication? You're not an expert on the subject, medication helps a lot with a large variety of disorders, no one here is saying that it should be taken as a substitute for therapy or without caution but you seem willing to deny something that could greatly help to increase the quality of life for an individual. Why is that? Of course it's difficult- there is no easy fix. Simple enough as it follows the patterns of psychoneurosis but it's never easy. It's a simple enough thing- on an individual case basis it can be highly useful but when generalised it both undermines humanity and is at the rot that has left American Psychology intellectually impotent for decades. I am however expert.
Claims of expertise mean nothing.Of course- but I do not like to let undue detractions go uncorrected. I can only at best oblige you to believe me, that and to ask that I may remain unslandered.
If you're an expert you should have no problem proving your point.
If you want to keep your credibility, only post things that you can back up.None at all. At this hour I'll have difficulty with many simple tasks. Far too time consuming, I'll post what happens to be true and hopefully share a few laughs too.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:52 pm
brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup Haha, of course!
But again: Proof? Source? Something? Jolly good. Psychoanalysis?
That was fun.
Got a link?Pardon me? A link to what? A study and practice?
I'm not calling you a liar.
I'm not calling you a troll.
But you've given us nothing.Nothing tangible, granted. I've been sharing plenty however.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:52 pm
brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup Haha, of course!
But again: Proof? Source? Something? Jolly good. Psychoanalysis?
That was fun.
Got a link?Pardon me? A link to what? A study and practice?
I'm not calling you a liar.
I'm not calling you a troll.
But you've given us nothing.
This.
And also this, to come full circle: You make me glad I'm not currently dating gentiles.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:53 pm
Lumanny the Space Jew brainnsoup CH1YO Semiremis CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew You're Welcome.
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child. Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert. It's not that simple to fix. Historically, psychologists have considered obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) a challenging disorder to treat, with significant numbers of patients failing to benefit from treatment. The heterogeneity of the population and the complexity of the disorder have been contributing factors. However, cognitive–behavioral treatments are showing great promise, particularly when delivered with pharmacotherapy and tailored to the unique characteristics of each OCD subtype.SourceWhy such a seemingly strong aversion to medication? You're not an expert on the subject, medication helps a lot with a large variety of disorders, no one here is saying that it should be taken as a substitute for therapy or without caution but you seem willing to deny something that could greatly help to increase the quality of life for an individual. Why is that? Of course it's difficult- there is no easy fix. Simple enough as it follows the patterns of psychoneurosis but it's never easy. It's a simple enough thing- on an individual case basis it can be highly useful but when generalised it both undermines humanity and is at the rot that has left American Psychology intellectually impotent for decades. I am however expert.
Claims of expertise mean nothing.
I'm not an expert in anything!!!
And if anyone asks you to prove it, tell them you've better things to do with your time! XD
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:54 pm
CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew brainnsoup CH1YO Semiremis It's not that simple to fix. Historically, psychologists have considered obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) a challenging disorder to treat, with significant numbers of patients failing to benefit from treatment. The heterogeneity of the population and the complexity of the disorder have been contributing factors. However, cognitive–behavioral treatments are showing great promise, particularly when delivered with pharmacotherapy and tailored to the unique characteristics of each OCD subtype.SourceWhy such a seemingly strong aversion to medication? You're not an expert on the subject, medication helps a lot with a large variety of disorders, no one here is saying that it should be taken as a substitute for therapy or without caution but you seem willing to deny something that could greatly help to increase the quality of life for an individual. Why is that? Of course it's difficult- there is no easy fix. Simple enough as it follows the patterns of psychoneurosis but it's never easy. It's a simple enough thing- on an individual case basis it can be highly useful but when generalised it both undermines humanity and is at the rot that has left American Psychology intellectually impotent for decades. I am however expert.
Claims of expertise mean nothing.
I'm not an expert in anything!!!That seems fair- you do get by fine however. Socratic nonsense notwithstanding.
Hey, we can't all be experts.
You of all people know, you're Exhibit A.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:54 pm
brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup :l Everyone on the internet is an expert on everything.
Claims of expertise mean nothing. Of course- but I do not like to let undue detractions go uncorrected. I can only at best oblige you to believe me, that and to ask that I may remain unslandered.
If you're an expert you should have no problem proving your point.
If you want to keep your credibility, only post things that you can back up.None at all. At this hour I'll have difficulty with many simple tasks. Far too time consuming, I'll post what happens to be true and hopefully share a few laughs too. Perfectly understandable. Do try not to dismiss anything on such grounds however.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:55 pm
CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup Haha, of course!
But again: Proof? Source? Something? Jolly good. Psychoanalysis?
That was fun.
Got a link?Pardon me? A link to what? A study and practice?
I'm not calling you a liar.
I'm not calling you a troll.
But you've given us nothing.Nothing tangible, granted. I've been sharing plenty however.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:55 pm
Lumanny the Space Jew brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup Haha, of course!
But again: Proof? Source? Something? Jolly good. Psychoanalysis?
That was fun.
Got a link?Pardon me? A link to what? A study and practice?
I'm not calling you a liar.
I'm not calling you a troll.
But you've given us nothing.
And also this, to come full circle: You make me glad I'm not currently dating gentiles.What a terrible way of thinking. I'm the finest of gentiles, I'm sure that you should find the lower orders more agreeable.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:58 pm
brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup Psychiatry.
That was fun.
Got a link? Pardon me? A link to what? A study and practice?
I'm not calling you a liar.
I'm not calling you a troll.
But you've given us nothing.Nothing tangible, granted. I've been sharing plenty however. I get this a lot- do I really come off as though I make an effort to use longer words than necessary? Not to say that my words are at all empty- rather they try to tell a story worth learning.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:59 pm
Lumanny the Space Jew CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew brainnsoup CH1YO Semiremis It's not that simple to fix. Historically, psychologists have considered obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) a challenging disorder to treat, with significant numbers of patients failing to benefit from treatment. The heterogeneity of the population and the complexity of the disorder have been contributing factors. However, cognitive–behavioral treatments are showing great promise, particularly when delivered with pharmacotherapy and tailored to the unique characteristics of each OCD subtype.SourceWhy such a seemingly strong aversion to medication? You're not an expert on the subject, medication helps a lot with a large variety of disorders, no one here is saying that it should be taken as a substitute for therapy or without caution but you seem willing to deny something that could greatly help to increase the quality of life for an individual. Why is that? Of course it's difficult- there is no easy fix. Simple enough as it follows the patterns of psychoneurosis but it's never easy. It's a simple enough thing- on an individual case basis it can be highly useful but when generalised it both undermines humanity and is at the rot that has left American Psychology intellectually impotent for decades. I am however expert.
Claims of expertise mean nothing.
I'm not an expert in anything!!!That seems fair- you do get by fine however. Socratic nonsense notwithstanding.
You of all people know, you're Exhibit A.Of course we can, let us not forget the first principle of individual psychology. Exibit A thus testifies to the contrary.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:04 pm
CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup :l Everyone on the internet is an expert on everything.
Claims of expertise mean nothing. Of course- but I do not like to let undue detractions go uncorrected. I can only at best oblige you to believe me, that and to ask that I may remain unslandered.
If you're an expert you should have no problem proving your point.
If you want to keep your credibility, only post things that you can back up.None at all. At this hour I'll have difficulty with many simple tasks. Far too time consuming, I'll post what happens to be true and hopefully share a few laughs too. Perfectly understandable. Do try not to dismiss anything on such grounds however.
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