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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:05 pm


Thanks for updating because I just remembered something that I read about last week.

It may not fully apply to this but I was reading a few articles where due to stress the human perception can alter heavily. Such as a tunnel vision that can sort of make the eyes focus and magnetize objects and even see things going in a sort of slow motion.

I read more on it but this is the only article that I can remember and find.

http://www.uberlumen.com/2011/01/06/book-reviews/stress-tunnel-vision-perceptions
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:14 pm


I vaguely remember hearing about that study a long time ago with the dropping people from high heights and trying to get them to read a flashing number. People can remember events dragging on, but there really is no such thing as bullet time. I'd have thought tunnel vision would be the worst thing to have in combat, but I suppose it hasn't been particularly debilitating to law enforcement.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:50 am


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Well, I managed to sit through that Grenadier series recently. I wish Revolvers could fire that quickly. Then I wouldn't dump on them as civilian toys. lol Ironically that series was pretty tame too.

I didn't cover cleavage loading in the excerpt but um... I'm hoping nobody gets the wrong idea going into an RP.

I guess Gun Kata does for guns what Kung Fu movies do for Kung Fu. Not even close to accurate but fun to watch.


You can actually unload with some revolvers disturbingly fast and accurately. The people whom do this however are extreme cases not the norm.

Because I suspect the inevitable declaration of bull s**t.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:09 am


My jaw dropped at that awesomeness then I became thankful that this man isn't crazy.

I suppose it's like the extreme stress of the situation taps into this strong instinct to survive and the mind and body falls back on it to a strong degree. I wonder if after doing it constantly will the body adjust and the fall back fade?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:15 pm


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Well, I managed to sit through that Grenadier series recently. I wish Revolvers could fire that quickly. Then I wouldn't dump on them as civilian toys. lol Ironically that series was pretty tame too.

I didn't cover cleavage loading in the excerpt but um... I'm hoping nobody gets the wrong idea going into an RP.

I guess Gun Kata does for guns what Kung Fu movies do for Kung Fu. Not even close to accurate but fun to watch.


You can actually unload with some revolvers disturbingly fast and accurately. The people whom do this however are extreme cases not the norm.

Because I suspect the inevitable declaration of bull s**t.


That's the world record isn't it?

Anyhow, disturbingly fast and accurate doesn't keep up with a ******** minigun. That's how ridiculous it got in Grenadier. That's what I was talking about. Bullet time, shooting down bullets with other bullets, anti-gravity boobs, the whole 9 yards. Then there's being successful with such speeds on spread out targets AND not causing any lethal injuries in the process.

Last I checked, ~360 RPM didn't = between 3000 and 4000 per minute flat. I think the slowest gatling gun on the market is the GAU-19/A and that still fires around 1300 RPM.

On that note, most gatling are chambered for .50BMG rounds which are armor piercing. I doubt collision with any type of revolver round would be favorable for deflecting them.

I'm not declaring bullshit, I'm just pointing out how retarded Grenadier was with that. I would imagine in an RP someone would immediately call bullshit if a player managed 12 rounds from their revolver in 2.2 seconds anyway.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:13 am


Not unless it was a Grenadier RP or the people aren't informed about guns. In my ignorance before this guide I would have let it pass.

By the by did you ever address a weapon like the gun blade Lionheart used in Final Fantasy?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:14 pm


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I think part of me just died at the thought of a Grenadier RP. Even with willing suspension of disbelief, it'd probably be mentioned on the WTF topic as the worst of Mary Sue hells just based on Rushuna's character traits and how many OCs would put those to use.

I thought I vaguely touched on gunblades, but I suppose I could get more in-depth. To be frank they just wouldn't work even as unconventional weapons. Particularly in the case of FF8, the handle is horribly angled to make it unwieldy as a sword without severely damaging your wrist, the shape of the blade and size of the revolver would probably make it too unbalanced to be a successful sword, and the usage of gunpowder to increase the impact of the blade is more likely to just shatter it since there's no muzzle. Even if it somehow held together, repeated use would probably melt or warp the weapon without any vents.

In other instances where a gunblade has a barrel and use as a range weapon, it would still remain exceedingly awkward to use with a large blade. If the barrel is within the blade, melee would risk tweaking or bending the barrel to unreliability, and the blade would make stabilizing the weapon for long range fire near impossible.

I guess long story short, the gun part is not being used as intended, the blade part is poorly designed for melee, so the whole weapon is imbalanced to the point of being useful for neither.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:35 am


I could almost see gunblades working on a shorter level, like in the terms of a handgun with maybe a six or eight inch blade but still it would need to be strong and sharp so that the blade and cut through more easily and avoid messing the barrel too much.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:49 pm


Well putting a dagger blade on a handgun would reduce its compactness first and foremost. Then there's where to put such a blade in order to get efficiency. In the case of a semiautomatic if the blade is on the top of the handgun it would disrupt the slide and the sights making it unwieldy to aim and probably increase the chances of it jamming. Below the barrel would make the blade awkward to wield due to the angle of the handle, and if it's below the handle it would make using both hands to stabilize the weapon fairly difficult.

There are tiny handgun bayonets you can buy for particular handguns, but those are maybe 4 inches at most and don't really serve any purpose unless you have a blade fetish. With the firing rate of even revolvers being fairly high compared to when the bayonet was first invented, it won't see a lot of use anymore anyway. It's just easier to shoot your target and move away over approaching for melee.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:02 pm


I was thinking in terms of a revolver rather than a pistol as they have it in FF8, about the size of a Taurus mag or a Smith and Wesson. All in all it would be a rather impractical weapon something you'd bring out as a last resort I could see something like that only holding 2 shots maybe 5.

I could see the blade being below the barrel or somehow the barrel is made out of the spine of the knife, but then again that baby will have to be strong or else risk bending. Or rather low like a bayonet just with a smaller gun.

Though I'm pleased to see that this isn't really a new concept.

Well at least it's not as crazy as a chainsaw gun.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:27 pm


Yeah, Gears of War was all over the place in terms of tech. They have satellite lasers but the best they could muster is a lever-action shotgun, and a magazine-less bolt-action sniper rifle? Yet they still have assault rifles, automatic handguns, a coil-bowgun, and mini mechs that are armed with chainguns and missiles.

On the note of FF8, How the hell does Seifer use that thing? The handle is almost perpendicular to the blade, he'd have to grab the barrel to use it like a sword. Otherwise even on a revolver the handle would have to be re-angled or completely straightened for the blade to be any good. That thing in the picture would be a pain in the a** for both thrusting and slashing.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:31 am


I think they've improved on the concept design on some, giving them an extra handle to act as the hilt of the sword rather than the awkward use of a gun's handle.

It's sort of annoying that they say that FF basically invited the concept of a gunblade. Even then something like that should you really be proud of boasting about? It's like someone going on and on about inventing the Snuggie.

Well I'll think about some other things later.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:51 pm


I have a new one I think wasn't touched up. You see my brother had given me a two shooter once then took it back. I told him that no one should ever try and fire that gun because of how it's a bit difficult to close it completely once it's been opened to load.

So the topic I bring before you the blocked barrel and backfire.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:50 pm


Wouldn't a double barrel not fire if it's still partially open? I don't think the striker has to be dead center to trigger the primer but I don't know if the striker would be long enough to reach the shells if the break is still partially open. At the least, the misalignment would break the hinges and barrels.

Either way, you'd get some nasty burns if there's still an opening in most other firearms. If the barrel is blocked on the other hand, it'll probably destroy the gun.

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