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Should Hippies to drugs? |
No, it hurts their image, and then they can't convince people to love |
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no, they lose site of their goals |
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Yes, it enhances their sense of love and peace, then they can pass it on |
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:46 am
Eclectic-Logan Soymilk_Gun phriedphishphan But LSD can also have some very permanent and devastating effects on certain people, and people who use it irresponsibly. Remember what happened to Syd Barret? sad wow someone should have told me that earlier...cause ive been doing that kinda s**t for quite a while and im perfectly normal...no studies have show any permenate brain or body damage fro macid or shrroms...they very early govt studies casue alot of freak otu because they were using prisoners ina empty and medical enviroment and beleive me that would induce a bad trip...you gotta trip on the beach or in the woods Acid does actually have effects. You see some of the acid you do stays in your body. It is stored in your vertebrae. Which is exactly why you may have quit acid for 3 years and you crack your neck and BLAM! back on a trip. Mushrooms are organic, so they don't have that many side effects. But acid, yeah acid can mess up some stuff in your head. Anything that induces any type of effect on your brain can mess it up. Including simple tylenol. It Can mess you up. If you do it in an extream amout all at once. Other then that it more or less just stays in you and sits there. But it changes the colour that an area of your brain shows up in a cat scan, it never goes back to the normal colour.
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:16 pm
The average dose of LSD in the 60s was many times larger than the average dose today...the only tiem your really run into problems with psychedellics is when you havent reasearch them thourougly and gotten yourself mentally prepared for the experiance...they are not a fun time drug, psychedellics are a powerful centering and learnign tool
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:48 pm
Soymilk_Gun The average dose of LSD in the 60s was many times larger than the average dose today...the only tiem your really run into problems with psychedellics is when you havent reasearch them thourougly and gotten yourself mentally prepared for the experiance...they are not a fun time drug, psychedellics are a powerful centering and learnign tool Yeah, if you get in a shity mood you get a bad trip, so its all about keeping positve.
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:45 pm
Judging from the poll results, it looks like the crowd is split about even. However, judging from the interesting and enlightened posts I read, the various groups are willing to hear each other out. That makes me proud to be in this guild, and comment on this topic.
Let me just say that I think hippies, like anyone else, should avoid drugs. Drugs, although I do not deny that they may bring some form of happiness, understanding, or heightened creativity to some individuals, can be dangerous to the mind and body. They alter the way you see the world, including cause and effect, and can play a devastating role in crimes, accidents, etc. And that's leaving out the fact that they're illegal. I do not think doing drugs is going to help hippies present their opinions and hopes to the world.
I have never done drugs, and I never will. I will not even drink alcohol, as I know that I very likely inherited at least one set of genes that makes me prone to be an alcoholic. People should take responsibility for their health. Most drugs have more negative effects than positive effects, so drugs are not a good choice.
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:20 pm
Tree_Beatle_Maiden Judging from the poll results, it looks like the crowd is split about even. However, judging from the interesting and enlightened posts I read, the various groups are willing to hear each other out. That makes me proud to be in this guild, and comment on this topic.
Let me just say that I think hippies, like anyone else, should avoid drugs. Drugs, although I do not deny that they may bring some form of happiness, understanding, or heightened creativity to some individuals, can be dangerous to the mind and body. They alter the way you see the world, including cause and effect, and can play a devastating role in crimes, accidents, etc. And that's leaving out the fact that they're illegal. I do not think doing drugs is going to help hippies present their opinions and hopes to the world.
I have never done drugs, and I never will. I will not even drink alcohol, as I know that I very likely inherited at least one set of genes that makes me prone to be an alcoholic. People should take responsibility for their health. Most drugs have more negative effects than positive effects, so drugs are not a good choice. I commend you on your well-thought-out opinion and agree with nearly all of it. (: While freedom is choice makes drug usage alluring, there are many dangers that are not always worth the risk of a high or hit. I support the freedom of choice; however, I do not support the misuse, abuse, or the negative actions/attitudes/etc. that can come about through drug useage. I highly support responsibility for one's own actions. If you chose to do the drugs and you do something under the influence of those drugs that you will later regret, I believe it is your responsibility to own up to the consequences. (:
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:40 am
I think hippies should only do acid, mushrooms and pot but not other drugs.
Well not really, but I kind of think of those three as the *hippie* drugs. But do what you want, drugs can be heaps of fun. wink
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:45 am
Soymilk_Gun The average dose of LSD in the 60s was many times larger than the average dose today...the only tiem your really run into problems with psychedellics is when you havent reasearch them thourougly and gotten yourself mentally prepared for the experiance...they are not a fun time drug, psychedellics are a powerful centering and learnign tool I disagree, from *personal* experience with psychedelics I find if you take them too seriously you'll not get much out of them, I consider them a fun time drug and would only take them for enjoyment. I don't think you can take them with the intention to get some great wisdom out of them, because I can guarantee you if you do that it won't happen and you will find yourself lost and searching for something thats not there.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:38 pm
missfear Soymilk_Gun The average dose of LSD in the 60s was many times larger than the average dose today...the only tiem your really run into problems with psychedellics is when you havent reasearch them thourougly and gotten yourself mentally prepared for the experiance...they are not a fun time drug, psychedellics are a powerful centering and learnign tool I don't think you can take them with the intention to get some great wisdom out of them, because I can guarantee you if you do that it won't happen and you will find yourself lost and searching for something thats not there. So is that why people do drugs? To gain some sort of perspective on the world that is impossible to reach without the use of dangerous substances that ruin one's body? Or to have fun while one ruins one's body? I cannot stop anyone from taking drugs; I do not consider that my responsibility. However, I feel people should be warned and partially shunned for dangerous decisions. People who take drugs must also realize that drugs not only have an effect on them themselves, but also people around them. I have nothing major against people who do drugs, but let me tell you, I would personally avoid those that do. I don't want to be the little girl who gets raped because some pothead thinks I want to have sex with him. I don't want my little sister to be the one who gets hit by a car because the driver was high and thought she was a spot of thick air, or because the driver thought the stop sign was a tree. I'm telling you guys, drugs change your ability to think. Even in controlled conditions, drugs hurt you. Is anyone aware of the brain-damaging effects of drugs like ecstasy? Drugs make people happy because they are chemicals that when released into the body cause the brain to produce endorphins, which are what causes the feeling of happiness. Endorphins are released when you have a good day, eat your favorite food, or kiss your lover. Drugs like ecstasy cause endorphins to be released in huge amounts, so eventually there will be no more left for all those tiny non-drug-induced happy moments in your life. I want to scare you people because eventually drugs will leave you, or someone you love, scared for your very life. Please think before you act. Reconsider your relationships with illegal substances, or any others you may abuse. I don't know what more I can say.::Edited by Darkfist007:: Plz do not use large text for entire posts, it looks too arrogent.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:42 pm
ihm Tree_Beatle_Maiden Judging from the poll results, it looks like the crowd is split about even. However, judging from the interesting and enlightened posts I read, the various groups are willing to hear each other out. That makes me proud to be in this guild, and comment on this topic.
Let me just say that I think hippies, like anyone else, should avoid drugs. Drugs, although I do not deny that they may bring some form of happiness, understanding, or heightened creativity to some individuals, can be dangerous to the mind and body. They alter the way you see the world, including cause and effect, and can play a devastating role in crimes, accidents, etc. And that's leaving out the fact that they're illegal. I do not think doing drugs is going to help hippies present their opinions and hopes to the world.
I have never done drugs, and I never will. I will not even drink alcohol, as I know that I very likely inherited at least one set of genes that makes me prone to be an alcoholic. People should take responsibility for their health. Most drugs have more negative effects than positive effects, so drugs are not a good choice. I commend you on your well-thought-out opinion and agree with nearly all of it. (: While freedom is choice makes drug usage alluring, there are many dangers that are not always worth the risk of a high or hit. I support the freedom of choice; however, I do not support the misuse, abuse, or the negative actions/attitudes/etc. that can come about through drug useage. I highly support responsibility for one's own actions. If you chose to do the drugs and you do something under the influence of those drugs that you will later regret, I believe it is your responsibility to own up to the consequences. (: I am happy to hear a second opinion, but must point out my objections to your's. When someone is under the influence of drugs, there is no controlling the way they think or act. That is the problem: People on drugs do not wish to hurt others in the process or act irresponsibly. But in their altered state of mind, the concepts of right and wrong, smart and not-so-smart, and consequences become blurred. People using drugs are simply irresponsible.
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:14 am
Omg, your argument above is based on soooo much bullshit. First off weed does very little damige to your body. Not pothead would rape anyone, a meth or coke head yes, but weed would not make you do that. You can hallucinate on weed, but you have to ssmoke an abnormaly large ammount, so dont worry about being mistaken for air. Also stoners are too lazy to drive, so dont worry about getting run down by one, and the ones that do drive stoned are no better then drunk drivers. And dont group weed with ectasy, they are compleatly diffrent in evey aspect. Also I dont worry about losing my life to drugs, I have my own reasons that I dont wish to disclose that makes me sure that Im not going ot die from much short of a gunshot or simmilar extream deaths.
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:17 am
Tree_Beatle_Maiden ihm Tree_Beatle_Maiden Judging from the poll results, it looks like the crowd is split about even. However, judging from the interesting and enlightened posts I read, the various groups are willing to hear each other out. That makes me proud to be in this guild, and comment on this topic.
Let me just say that I think hippies, like anyone else, should avoid drugs. Drugs, although I do not deny that they may bring some form of happiness, understanding, or heightened creativity to some individuals, can be dangerous to the mind and body. They alter the way you see the world, including cause and effect, and can play a devastating role in crimes, accidents, etc. And that's leaving out the fact that they're illegal. I do not think doing drugs is going to help hippies present their opinions and hopes to the world.
I have never done drugs, and I never will. I will not even drink alcohol, as I know that I very likely inherited at least one set of genes that makes me prone to be an alcoholic. People should take responsibility for their health. Most drugs have more negative effects than positive effects, so drugs are not a good choice. I commend you on your well-thought-out opinion and agree with nearly all of it. (: While freedom is choice makes drug usage alluring, there are many dangers that are not always worth the risk of a high or hit. I support the freedom of choice; however, I do not support the misuse, abuse, or the negative actions/attitudes/etc. that can come about through drug useage. I highly support responsibility for one's own actions. If you chose to do the drugs and you do something under the influence of those drugs that you will later regret, I believe it is your responsibility to own up to the consequences. (: I am happy to hear a second opinion, but must point out my objections to your's. When someone is under the influence of drugs, there is no controlling the way they think or act. That is the problem: People on drugs do not wish to hurt others in the process or act irresponsibly. But in their altered state of mind, the concepts of right and wrong, smart and not-so-smart, and consequences become blurred. People using drugs are simply irresponsible. When using drugs such a cocain those things become blured. There are 2 diffrent kinds of drugs, weed, shrooms, and some others you do not have any change in your veiw of right and wrong. I know from experiance, and dont tell me I was too stoned to tell, you probably base all that info of yours on that dare s**t, I base mine of scientific knowlage I have learned and from experiance.
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:39 pm
If people choose to- thats their choice. Personally, I would say no. I wouldn't want someone I love to be changed for the worse by them. heart Addictions aren't good, IMHO. Although marajuana is good for medical purposes. Just don't overdo it. sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:01 pm
I don't like it when people lump drug users into one big catagorie, everyone is different. Not everyone who takes drugs will become addicted, infact alot of people I know who take drugs life happy lives, study or work and are reasonably healthy.
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:25 pm
I'm sorry if I've lumped anyone into any category, or come across as extremely arrogant. This is simply an opinion of mine that I feel very strongly about. For your information, I have not learned all this stuff from D.A.R.E., although I do think that it's a respectable program. If you haven't noticed, I appear to be the only one on this forum to have presented my reasons in actual scientific terms. Even if you did present hard-core scientific evidence on the safety of drugs, I would not start doing them myself. And don't act like I haven't had any experience with the dangers of these substances. While I'll admit I haven't taken them personally, I know people who have. My own mother has suffered numerous times because someone she knew decided to take drugs. She was raped as an eleven year-old girl by her cousins who used drugs, and nearly raped again in college by a friend who was drunk. Drugs hurt people; ask nearly anyone in mainstream society, and they'll agree. Sometimes doctors are right. And you really should be more considerate when talking directly to people with strong opinions. I refuse to post again on this thread, and if I get kicked out of this guild or lose any potential friends I don't care. I stick by what I believe.
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:00 pm
i voted for yes because i belive that drugs are bad but i dont care if you do them and i have alot of freinds that do it!
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