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Ainoka

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:52 am


Ho Ho Homo
I actually have noticed that when I roll my "r"s, I use the back of my throat, not my tongue. Is that like, normal?

Also, I'm having a bit of trouble with the "h".

It says that it's stressed in a word if it's not the beginning of it, but how is it supposed to sound? (I know that may seem like a stupid question. >_>)

"h" is kind of like... *howtoexplainitohhowtoexplainit* To me it seems perfectly similar to the "h" in English. Or then I'm pronouncing both languages incorrectly:p
And I can't find any difference between the "h"s if it's in the middle of a word than the first letter
Like in the word "kahvi" (coffee) the "h" sound similar as in the word "hauta" (grave)
PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:01 pm


Proudly_Jewish
adabyron

In Finnish, "not" is a verb.
That's so cool! eek Can you tell me more about how that works? What's the infinitive (plain form) of 'not' and how do you conjugate it?

sweatdrop Sorry! Totally forgot about this.

I'm not sure what the infinitive is since I can't recall ever using it. Here is how to conjugate a normal verb in the first person.
minä menen
sinä menet
hän menee

Then in the negative...
minä en mene
sinä et mene
hän ei mene

I'm totally going off memory here so I apologize to any Finns if I screwed that up, but I think you get the general idea. The "not" is the part that changes, instead of the thing you aren't doing.

Prinsesse Maggie


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:04 pm


Ho Ho Homo
I actually have noticed that when I roll my "r"s, I use the back of my throat, not my tongue. Is that like, normal?

Also, I'm having a bit of trouble with the "h".

It says that it's stressed in a word if it's not the beginning of it, but how is it supposed to sound? (I know that may seem like a stupid question. >_>)
I never said my hs any different. Perhaps they are just making sure you pronounce it when it's at the end of a syllable, since in English you wouldn't normally say it (e.g. in a word like ah, the h is pretty much silent).
PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:19 pm


Kokoroki
adabyron
Proudly_Jewish
What's the pronounciation like? Do you find it difficult?

Finnish pronunciation is the easiest of any language I've studied. There is a one-to-one relationship between sound and letter, with the exception of "ng" which has a single sound. Also, stress is always on the first syllable, so there is no guessing. Once you learn the sound each letter makes, you can pronounce anything (slowly, at least xd ). This site explains it pretty well, if you are familiar with IPA. smile

Unfortunately, spoken Finnish is different from written Finnish. (e.g. "minulla" is pronounced "mulla") So although you will be correct to pronounce everything the way it looks, you will not sound like a native speaker.


NOT FOR ME !!

it's harder than Danish, Russian, Ukrainian, and Serbian

Honestly, if you think Danish or Russian pronunciation is easier, you probably either didn't understand what I was saying, or you don't know enough Danish and Russian.

Finnish has an entirely regular pronunciation when compared to spelling. You can tell the pronunciation just by looking at the word.

In Russian, for example, vowels change their sound depending on which syllable is stressed. The syllable that is stressed is random (i.e. you can't tell which one to stress in a word you haven't seen before). You have to memorize the stress when you learn the word. This means it is impossible to be 100% sure how to pronounce a word you don't know.

In Danish, several letters have multiple sounds associated with them. The d may be hard or soft. The g may or may not be silent. Don't even get me started on the vowels. They all can be pronounced more than one way. You can't know how to pronounce a word by looking at it. You have to memorize the pronunciation with the word. Just think of all the silent letters in a word like selvfølgelig and tell me how someone would get the pronunciation right if they hadn't seen the word before! The irregular pronunciation of Danish is very well-known and well documented.

Prinsesse Maggie


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:14 am


adabyron
Kokoroki
adabyron
Proudly_Jewish
What's the pronounciation like? Do you find it difficult?

Finnish pronunciation is the easiest of any language I've studied. There is a one-to-one relationship between sound and letter, with the exception of "ng" which has a single sound. Also, stress is always on the first syllable, so there is no guessing. Once you learn the sound each letter makes, you can pronounce anything (slowly, at least xd ). This site explains it pretty well, if you are familiar with IPA. smile

Unfortunately, spoken Finnish is different from written Finnish. (e.g. "minulla" is pronounced "mulla") So although you will be correct to pronounce everything the way it looks, you will not sound like a native speaker.


NOT FOR ME !!

it's harder than Danish, Russian, Ukrainian, and Serbian

Honestly, if you think Danish or Russian pronunciation is easier, you probably either didn't understand what I was saying, or you don't know enough Danish and Russian.

Finnish has an entirely regular pronunciation when compared to spelling. You can tell the pronunciation just by looking at the word.

In Russian, for example, vowels change their sound depending on which syllable is stressed. The syllable that is stressed is random (i.e. you can't tell which one to stress in a word you haven't seen before). You have to memorize the stress when you learn the word. This means it is impossible to be 100% sure how to pronounce a word you don't know.

In Danish, several letters have multiple sounds associated with them. The d may be hard or soft. The g may or may not be silent. Don't even get me started on the vowels. They all can be pronounced more than one way. You can't know how to pronounce a word by looking at it. You have to memorize the pronunciation with the word. Just think of all the silent letters in a word like selvfølgelig and tell me how someone would get the pronunciation right if they hadn't seen the word before! The irregular pronunciation of Danish is very well-known and well documented.


your correct about russian
Oh pronounciation I thought you meant the language as a whole redface redface
PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:19 pm


adabyron
Ho Ho Homo
I actually have noticed that when I roll my "r"s, I use the back of my throat, not my tongue. Is that like, normal?

Also, I'm having a bit of trouble with the "h".

It says that it's stressed in a word if it's not the beginning of it, but how is it supposed to sound? (I know that may seem like a stupid question. >_>)
I never said my hs any different. Perhaps they are just making sure you pronounce it when it's at the end of a syllable, since in English you wouldn't normally say it (e.g. in a word like ah, the h is pretty much silent).

Actually, now that I thought about it, there IS a difference. In the middle of a word, eg kahvi, the "h" is a bit softer than if it's the first letter.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:34 am


I really want to learn Finnish because I'm almost fluent in French and I already speak English so I'd love a third language. It's kinda weird though, I don't know how anything in it works, only a few phrases.

Minun nimeni on Kyle! Hauska tavata! Tarvitsen apua sad
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:15 am


I'm a native finnish speaker, so if I can be of help to anyone, I'd be glad to help. smile

Miutsis


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:20 pm


So I bought a finnish course at my favorite bookstore.....Bad news they're tapes but good thing my CD player has a tape player.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:15 am


Koko.Dk
So I bought a finnish course at my favorite bookstore.....Bad news they're tapes but good thing my CD player has a tape player.

Hooray for all Finnish students.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:19 am


Kiitos
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:30 pm


Fin here. I know a few phrases, but these are just things taught to me by my grandpa. He speaks it fluently. He curses often in Finnish.. ^^

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:23 am


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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 3:37 am


Koko.Dk
Kiitos

Ole hyvä smile

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:29 am


Hei! Jazzy on huonessa nyt! Ja suomea ei ole vaikkea kieli. En ole suomalainen, mut puhun vähän suomea. Suomea on paras kieliä koko maailmassa ja niin kaunis.
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