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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:42 am


    Virgin here D:
    I've almost made it to 17 years without. Two more weeks!
    I gave my boy his first kiss last night. It was adorable to meet an 18 year old boy who's never been kissed, it was crazy special n.n
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:32 pm


lol, I got my first kiss at 18... I wouldn't kiss my boyfriend for the first six days of our visit, even though I'd known him six months.

But I was mostly scared I'd suck at kissing sweatdrop

It was a very memorable first kiss, though.


On an un-related, but related to the topic note: It's always nice to be told "You're a master of torture!"
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el cabong

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:36 pm


(this could be my sad attempt to try and breathe some life in this place...)


you know. i wonder when most teenagers get their first kiss....im pretty sure its much later than we think....
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:14 am


el cabong
(this could be my sad attempt to try and breathe some life in this place...)


you know. i wonder when most teenagers get their first kiss....im pretty sure its much later than we think....

I think it's 12-14, for the kids who think it's absolutely necessary and will make out with anybody that gives them the time of day, especially as they're like heat-seeking missles for other pathetic people who think they need to have a boyfriend/girlfriend to be complete.

And then 18-20 for the rest of us.

The Dread Pirate Ghosty


Forced Merit

PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:47 pm


The Dread Pirate Ghosty
el cabong
(this could be my sad attempt to try and breathe some life in this place...)


you know. i wonder when most teenagers get their first kiss....im pretty sure its much later than we think....

I think it's 12-14, for the kids who think it's absolutely necessary and will make out with anybody that gives them the time of day, especially as they're like heat-seeking missles for other pathetic people who think they need to have a boyfriend/girlfriend to be complete.

And then 18-20 for the rest of us.


It was 13 for me, I remember it vividly as being an absolutely sublime moment.

Since we were both mature enough to be ready for it and realised that it was the right time and all. It was pouring with rain and it was just..... *sigh*

The sex was when we were 14, that was just as good too. You may think that it was all about young love going to fast but we were together for another 7 years after that.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:17 pm


The Dread Pirate Ghosty
el cabong
(this could be my sad attempt to try and breathe some life in this place...)


you know. i wonder when most teenagers get their first kiss....im pretty sure its much later than we think....

I think it's 12-14, for the kids who think it's absolutely necessary and will make out with anybody that gives them the time of day, especially as they're like heat-seeking missles for other pathetic people who think they need to have a boyfriend/girlfriend to be complete.

And then 18-20 for the rest of us.

I got a friend who lost hers a 9.

To me any sex for people under the age of 16 is really kind of weird, I mean to me those are still kids. I mean that's just no very old in my opinion, sex at 12? Wtf? I still played with GI Joes when I was 12.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:48 pm


MangaJoe
The Dread Pirate Ghosty
el cabong
(this could be my sad attempt to try and breathe some life in this place...)


you know. i wonder when most teenagers get their first kiss....im pretty sure its much later than we think....

I think it's 12-14, for the kids who think it's absolutely necessary and will make out with anybody that gives them the time of day, especially as they're like heat-seeking missles for other pathetic people who think they need to have a boyfriend/girlfriend to be complete.

And then 18-20 for the rest of us.

I got a friend who lost hers a 9.

To me any sex for people under the age of 16 is really kind of weird, I mean to me those are still kids. I mean that's just no very old in my opinion, sex at 12? Wtf? I still played with GI Joes when I was 12.

I think 16 is still too young, I'm not gonna lie... I'm a nasty, dirty pervert... but I'm still old-fashioned in thinking there's a right time and way to do things.

I mean, my boyfriend's sixteen year old sister is pregnant with her boyfriend of two months by the point in which she would've gotten knocked-up... they've now dated 6ish months...

I mean, she's ruining her life, she hasn't finished high school.... finishing and especially going to college will be almost impossible, she's ruining her body physically... sixteen year olds have the ability to have sex and get pregnant... but they are not at the best age to do it... I mean, she isn't even fully grown and she'll be stretching out her insides. She's going to make her body look like a 30 year old's by the age of 17, that's horrible. Not to mention, she's horribly immature and spoiled... which got her in the mess in the first place. I'm sorry, most sixteen year olds shouldn't have sex.

Admittedly, I lost my virginity/took my boyfriend's virginity on his 17th birthday... but there's a difference. I was 19, but I only waited so he'd be legal in both his and my state.... haha. But he is much more mature mentally, and was much more mature mentally than his sister, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke... she's done both, pot and tried harder drugs although I don't believe she regularly does them... Had we gotten me pregnant, I was 19 and would have done what it took to take care of it, I'd recognize I wasn't going to have the same life... in a survey she took on Myspace she wrote how she'd given up drinking "for now"... Uhh, hello? With a baby you're not only not going to have money to drink since you can't get a real job... but you're going to have to care for the kid. Her favorite place is anywhere there's a party, she won't be able to do that for years after the kid is born. She's losing her life... I honestly find it funny, I remember her saying how she was going to move out of her dad's house at 18, now she'll likely live there for the next ten years at least, barely making ends meet and having a mediocre life and not giving her child the best life it could have (I'm against abortion but think she could have found a wonderful family to adopt this child, there are so many people who can't have kids who will pay a pregnant mother to have the child for them)... It's just very sad.

Especially as her boyfriend's myspace says he "hates" pre-marital sex... I'm not going to lie, I lawled.

In the end, it comes down to mental maturity... At 16 I would have been mentally mature enough, but I was smart enough to recognize I wasn't ready... although I still played with toys 'til I was 14 >>;;; But since I had to mature quickly and grew up fast I learned to appreciate my youth at the same time, so I clung to childish things. Most people are idiots and think they're more mature than they are... I recognize how I'm immature, and how I'm mature... I'm very realistic, hence why I'm bitchy enough to judge others in such a way... but I don't think it's judging so much as thinking "why are you ruining your life and the lives of others?!" I just want the best for everyone sweatdrop

I kinda got in a heated arguement with my mom about it, so I'm a wee-bit more passionate about 16 year olds having sex right now than usual.

But I will say, I have a 15 year old friend I've known for three years, when I found out he was a virgin despite all the girlfriend's he's had, I praised him.... whole-heartedly praised him. It honestly grosses me out that 16 year olds in general have sex, as I don't consider them mature enough as a whole, some might be... but they're the ones smart enough to not have it, and especially to be sure they don't get knocked up.

Our society has such un-realistic views on sex, children are forced to grow up fast... or so people tell me.... It's really parents don't care enough to do any real parenting, and nobody cares enough anymore. I honestly have had sex with one person I don't care about, I regret it... and it was a mistake... I've only slept with three guys and I didn't particularly enjoy it with my other boyfriend... I found the guy that's right for me and it's by far better than the more experienced guy I've had. I wish I'd just stuck with the guy I lost my virginity to, and that's it, as that's really all I need.

Ok, I rambled a lot >>;; I'm such an old-woman at heart... and extremely maternal.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:49 pm


    I had my first kiss at 13, at a party. I made out with three people that night, and haven't the foggiest idea which one of them was my first kiss.
    We weren't inebriated on anything other than massive amounts of sugar, so I can't blame any substance or my own faulty impaired judgment, it just sort of happened.
    Honest to god, I don't really regret it. I was the one in control at the time, and I enjoyed learning on people I didn't really care about. It didn't matter if I sucked, so I wasn't afraid to figure out what worked for me.
    After that, it was another three years before I kissed anyone again.
    Kissing at 13 or 14 doesn't bother me, as long as things don't get hot and heavy too quickly. It's experimentation. It's how we figure things out without being severely judged or too terribly afraid.
    Or maybe I'm just weird.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:32 pm


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    I had my first kiss at 13, at a party. I made out with three people that night, and haven't the foggiest idea which one of them was my first kiss.
    We weren't inebriated on anything other than massive amounts of sugar, so I can't blame any substance or my own faulty impaired judgment, it just sort of happened.
    Honest to god, I don't really regret it. I was the one in control at the time, and I enjoyed learning on people I didn't really care about. It didn't matter if I sucked, so I wasn't afraid to figure out what worked for me.
    After that, it was another three years before I kissed anyone again.
    Kissing at 13 or 14 doesn't bother me, as long as things don't get hot and heavy too quickly. It's experimentation. It's how we figure things out without being severely judged or too terribly afraid.
    Or maybe I'm just weird.
Kissing I don't mind really, but most kids don't just stop with kissing anymore.

Although I'll admit, I can't fathom how people can make out with people they don't care about.... But I realize I'm weird like that.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:56 pm


The Dread Pirate Ghosty
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    I had my first kiss at 13, at a party. I made out with three people that night, and haven't the foggiest idea which one of them was my first kiss.
    We weren't inebriated on anything other than massive amounts of sugar, so I can't blame any substance or my own faulty impaired judgment, it just sort of happened.
    Honest to god, I don't really regret it. I was the one in control at the time, and I enjoyed learning on people I didn't really care about. It didn't matter if I sucked, so I wasn't afraid to figure out what worked for me.
    After that, it was another three years before I kissed anyone again.
    Kissing at 13 or 14 doesn't bother me, as long as things don't get hot and heavy too quickly. It's experimentation. It's how we figure things out without being severely judged or too terribly afraid.
    Or maybe I'm just weird.
Kissing I don't mind really, but most kids don't just stop with kissing anymore.

Although I'll admit, I can't fathom how people can make out with people they don't care about.... But I realize I'm weird like that.

    Ehh.
    It's easier for me in some respects. Most of the people I've kissed, I didn't give a rats a** about. It's easier for me. Relationships aren't really my thing in most respects, but random make out sessions are grand fun.
    I realize how immature that sounds >.< but I'm not hurting anyone, or having sex, so I don't really care all that much.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:15 pm


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    I had my first kiss at 13, at a party. I made out with three people that night, and haven't the foggiest idea which one of them was my first kiss.
    We weren't inebriated on anything other than massive amounts of sugar, so I can't blame any substance or my own faulty impaired judgment, it just sort of happened.
    Honest to god, I don't really regret it. I was the one in control at the time, and I enjoyed learning on people I didn't really care about. It didn't matter if I sucked, so I wasn't afraid to figure out what worked for me.
    After that, it was another three years before I kissed anyone again.
    Kissing at 13 or 14 doesn't bother me, as long as things don't get hot and heavy too quickly. It's experimentation. It's how we figure things out without being severely judged or too terribly afraid.
    Or maybe I'm just weird.
Kissing I don't mind really, but most kids don't just stop with kissing anymore.

Although I'll admit, I can't fathom how people can make out with people they don't care about.... But I realize I'm weird like that.

    Ehh.
    It's easier for me in some respects. Most of the people I've kissed, I didn't give a rats a** about. It's easier for me. Relationships aren't really my thing in most respects, but random make out sessions are grand fun.
    I realize how immature that sounds >.< but I'm not hurting anyone, or having sex, so I don't really care all that much.

I just think about like "Eww, I don't really like this person and I'm swapping spit with them... how gross. Yuck, I don't want their saliva in my mouth." Like, I just think about how it's somebody who I don't like that I'm swapping bodily fluids with, which ruins it.

I kissed one guy I didn't like, it was horrible... he tried to put his tongue in my mouth and I was like "No" and wouldn't kiss him again. My first kiss with my boyfriend he shoved his tongue in my mouth and I've loved it with him... so I'm just finicky and crazy sweatdrop

It grosses me out when one of my boyfriends licks my face, or if his mouth is too wet >>;;;; But he licks my face 'cause he thinks it's funny.

Then again, I have no issue sharing drinks with friends, so I really am odd that kissing somebody grosses me out.

But I think it would be wonderful to not worry about if I was good or bad at kissing, although now I don't worry about it much 'cause my boyfriends like to do it well enough sweatdrop
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:31 pm


The Dread Pirate Ghosty
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    I had my first kiss at 13, at a party. I made out with three people that night, and haven't the foggiest idea which one of them was my first kiss.
    We weren't inebriated on anything other than massive amounts of sugar, so I can't blame any substance or my own faulty impaired judgment, it just sort of happened.
    Honest to god, I don't really regret it. I was the one in control at the time, and I enjoyed learning on people I didn't really care about. It didn't matter if I sucked, so I wasn't afraid to figure out what worked for me.
    After that, it was another three years before I kissed anyone again.
    Kissing at 13 or 14 doesn't bother me, as long as things don't get hot and heavy too quickly. It's experimentation. It's how we figure things out without being severely judged or too terribly afraid.
    Or maybe I'm just weird.
Kissing I don't mind really, but most kids don't just stop with kissing anymore.

Although I'll admit, I can't fathom how people can make out with people they don't care about.... But I realize I'm weird like that.

    Ehh.
    It's easier for me in some respects. Most of the people I've kissed, I didn't give a rats a** about. It's easier for me. Relationships aren't really my thing in most respects, but random make out sessions are grand fun.
    I realize how immature that sounds >.< but I'm not hurting anyone, or having sex, so I don't really care all that much.

I just think about like "Eww, I don't really like this person and I'm swapping spit with them... how gross. Yuck, I don't want their saliva in my mouth." Like, I just think about how it's somebody who I don't like that I'm swapping bodily fluids with, which ruins it.

I kissed one guy I didn't like, it was horrible... he tried to put his tongue in my mouth and I was like "No" and wouldn't kiss him again. My first kiss with my boyfriend he shoved his tongue in my mouth and I've loved it with him... so I'm just finicky and crazy sweatdrop

It grosses me out when one of my boyfriends licks my face, or if his mouth is too wet >>;;;; But he licks my face 'cause he thinks it's funny.

Then again, I have no issue sharing drinks with friends, so I really am odd that kissing somebody grosses me out.

But I think it would be wonderful to not worry about if I was good or bad at kissing, although now I don't worry about it much 'cause my boyfriends like to do it well enough sweatdrop

    Being finicky is good n.n
    I'm always so much more in control when it's someone I don't really know. I'm really dominant then. If I don't like what they're doing, it's all like aw hell no, this s**t ain't goin' down, there's more where you came from boyo.

    I've learned that there's always someone else who's willing. Swapping spit can be a gross thought, I make a point of not kissing people who are complete strangers, so I have some idea of where their mouths have been before mine >.<
    No kissing if you're sick, or if you haven't brushed your teeth, or if I know you've kissed just about every girl in the county, etc.
    Man, I need to make a checklist for them to fill out.

    This is all moot xD I currently have a boy. I'm not THAT much of an incorrigible flirt.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:58 am


lol

"Before we kiss I'm going to need you to fill out some forms, sign this waver, and I'll have to run a through background check... have you ever gone by any other name?"
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:54 am


Ghosty: I think that your anecdotes more provide a lesson on the importance of safe sex than that sex even at age 16 is unwise.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:42 am


Fuzzy Necromancer
Ghosty: I think that your anecdotes more provide a lesson on the importance of safe sex than that sex even at age 16 is unwise.
Who is to say it wasn't safe sex? I never said if it was or not. I'm not going to lie, I've practiced un-safe sex with my boyfriend... no condom, no nothing, multiple times, and I'm not on birth control at all, I've "lucked out" I guess you could say.

The point of sex is to reproduce, bottom line. Yes, it feels good... but it also comes with consequences... people get hurt and lives get ruined.

Until you are mature enough to handle the consequences, possible diseases, possible children, etc... which the majority of 16 year olds are not, you should not have sex... But generally it's the immature ones that think they have to have it, because they want to be adults so bad, and they ruin their lives. When my boyfriend broke up with me having lost my virginity to him was even harder, because to me, and I had told him after we finished, that meant we were going to get married... I let him take it because in my 19 year old mind I knew we were going to get married... at the time he grinned and said "I already planned to" but three years later he's "Not sure".

His sister and her boyfriend might think it'd be awesome to get married after knowing one another a couple months, then when you throw a baby on top of that and force them to get married, it's going to aggravate any problems by twenty... That kid will be with them for twenty something years, they haven't even been alive twenty something years... life at sixteen is drastically different from life at nineteen... at nineteen you finally get "Oh s**t, forever is a really long time, this isn't just some cute fun game... we have to be adults." and how long a baby is really going to be with you... for kids who haven't even had real jobs yet to have a baby and support it is unrealistic... so no, sixteen year olds shouldn't have sex unless they've lived in the real world for some time... and know how shitty life can be. When every night is a different party, drinking and pot.... you have a part-time job just for money to go buy the latest from hot topic or hollister, and your parents provide you with everything, bringing a baby into the world isn't the best idea... and then your partying gets cut short and your life gets kicked into over-drive.

Like I said, when I was 16 I had more maturity than many people my current age, and let me be blunt here... I think most people should wait 'til they're at least my age... honest to God. Many of my friends should have, because they're still not ready for a kid, they don't know what it is to care for themselves. My other boyfriend (the new one) told me to have my mom make me some dinner one night, I looked at him and laughed... Since I was seven in general I've made my own meals except on the rare occasion my mom opted to cook a real meal. I learned to mow the lawn at nine, before that my older brother and mom alternated mowing it. I've had a rough life. I've had to have a job since I was sixteen, no choice in the matter... I haven't even gone job-less for a day since I was 16, have worked two jobs at some points and even when I got fired I managed to snag a job in less than a day. My mom was shocked that I didn't sit around for days sulking, I was putting out applications the day after I got fired. At 16 I realized how short life can be, and how much our actions can affect us, I knew what having a baby meant.... but I was mature enough at that age to know I wasn't ready and didn't want one, and just wanted to enjoy my youth for a little bit longer...because our youth gets taken away too fast, and adulthood is no fun. So while I would have been "ready" for a baby more than most sixteen year olds at that point, I wasn't ready and respected that and that with the possible consequences of sex I didn't want it. I was mature enough to recognize I wasn't really ready for sex and didn't want to have it with just anybody, because I don't want to regret things at the end of my life... I waited and found the perfect guy because I was patient, and I lost it to him... we even discussed how we generally agreed people his age shouldn't have sex due to mental maturity.

Once I had a manager at the theater come up to me and tell me of a 13 year old mixed race couple caught doing oral in the upstairs hallway... First I stated "Let me guess, the girl was white."

"Yes, how did you know?"
"White girls give head, it's kinda our thing."

While not every white girl gives head, let alone enjoys doing it (I personally don't), it was a generalization... but it's also because 13 year old white girls don't respect themselves enough to know better... How sad is it that somebody in middle school already is doing that? These are kids, they should be acting like kids, not retarded adults! And how mortified must their parents be to get the call from the police?

But how horrible is it that the majority of parents now-a-days don't know how to raise their kids? Don't teach them responsibility or that their actions have consequences in the future... they think the rest of the world should be parenting their kids for them. They have no respect for themselves, and their parents shelter them up 'til they do the one dumb thing like slip up, and even having safe sex get pregnant... and then their parents can't protect them from that, and it brings another person into this world to live a miserable life because their parents weren't mature enough to wait 'til they could handle the consequences of their actions? Admittedly, after several jobs dealing with parents and the kids they failed to raise, I disrespect most parents as a whole, as well as most kids for not being smart enough to keep it in their pants 'til they can handle the consequences of their actions.
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