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 Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:35 pm
Oh wow.....that sounds like a direct reference to AC. Wow....you're so clever Balthea! whee That is so awesome!
Speaking of clothes....I hope Nomura can come up with something awesome for them. biggrin
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:15 am
Twindream Oh wow.....that sounds like a direct reference to AC. Wow....you're so clever Balthea! whee That is so awesome! Speaking of clothes....I hope Nomura can come up with something awesome for them. biggrin
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:32 am
Ryushikaze Twindream Oh wow.....that sounds like a direct reference to AC. Wow....you're so clever Balthea! whee That is so awesome! Speaking of clothes....I hope Nomura can come up with something awesome for them. biggrin Thanks. I kind of liked how Cleris would use the whole running thing against us, and then I realized, "Don't they see the AC connection?". So nice to know that there's a quote somewhere. Though it seems like for everything Cloti there's always 'a quote somewhere that completely 100% backs it up'. XD
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:22 am
Lol, so far that we know. xd That's awesome though! Even KH would show Cloud and Tifa's relationship. Cleris fans still try to use KH to prove Cleris though, with a lot using the first KH.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:17 pm
"I have in my hands the means, and in my heart, the will." A lot of Cleris fans like to say that Aeris and Cloud relate to Sora and Kairi and the creators of the game intended it this way. rofl
Not only do Cloud and Tifa relate more to Sora and Kairi, but KH has nothing to do with FF FOR THE LAST TIME! -dies-
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:52 pm
LunarSchemer "I have in my hands the means, and in my heart, the will." A lot of Cleris fans like to say that Aeris and Cloud relate to Sora and Kairi and the creators of the game intended it this way. rofl
Not only do Cloud and Tifa relate more to Sora and Kairi, but KH has nothing to do with FF FOR THE LAST TIME! -dies-
I'm sorry, but Sora and Kairi's dynamic has nothing in common with the proposed Cloud/ Aerith dynamic.
HOW are they similar? I know you're just the messenger, but seriously, HOW?
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:01 pm
Ryushikaze LunarSchemer "I have in my hands the means, and in my heart, the will." A lot of Cleris fans like to say that Aeris and Cloud relate to Sora and Kairi and the creators of the game intended it this way. rofl
Not only do Cloud and Tifa relate more to Sora and Kairi, but KH has nothing to do with FF FOR THE LAST TIME! -dies-
I'm sorry, but Sora and Kairi's dynamic has nothing in common with the proposed Cloud/ Aerith dynamic.
HOW are they similar? I know you're just the messenger, but seriously, HOW?"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I'm not." DUH, Ryu. Because Sora and Kairi are connected spiritually, and just like Aeris, Sora sacrificed his life to save Kairi. Also, since Aeris is Clouds light and Tifa was just added in their to make Cloti/Tifa fans happy because NOMURA WAS TIRED OF CLOTI COMPLAINTS LOL===> , it's obvious that when Sora is searching for Kairi, his light, it MUST relate to Aeris, because everything relates to Aeris. Since she is the goddess of FFVII and must rightly be worshipped in every game.
Did I mention Kairi wears pink just like Aeris?! TOO BAD PINK RELATES TO ZERIS! =D
*still bitter*
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:00 pm
Anybody notice that Aeris and Cloud's meeting in KHII mirrors their little meeting in KH1. They look like they are reacting just the same, but this time we see and hear what they are saying, and it's not romantic at all. Cloud doesn't want her to get involved, and he's very cold. This mirrors his reaction to her at the beginning of FFVII. I just thought it was interesting because that scene at the end of KH seemed odd to me, and Cloud didn't look like he was overjoyed. She leans in the exact same way, and he looks at her in that same odd way.
Anywho, just watched that resently and thought it was interesting.
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:35 pm
.........That's true! Wow Balthea, amazing as always. biggrin Especially the leaning! Though, first time he just seemed surprised in KH. KH2 he seemed kinda...."you're breaking into my personal bubble." Either way, he was cold to her. FFVII, he had that same indifferent attitude, a little rude too. (His shrug) Whoo! Another connection!
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:28 pm
It's not that amazing. I'm just pointing out the obvious. XP It's just kind of funny when you realize they repeat that scene but with words, and those words aren't romantic. Hehe.
Someone said that there's an interview somewhere where the writers comment on how they disliked how people were interpreting that five second scene in KH. XP They still haven't found it so I have no idea if it's true or not... but if it is... that would be hillarious. XD
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:42 pm
"I have in my hands the means, and in my heart, the will." Well, maybe that's why they had that same scene basically, except longer. They wanted to show the real interpretation people should have had from the ending. x'D
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:44 pm
Anyways, back onto Clotiness...
Even though we've discussed it before, what's your take on the idea that Tifa isn't exactly 'human'? Do you think it's just them messing with our minds, or do you think it's something more? Maybe she's special, like the princesses. XD Do you think whatever is special about her just relates to Cloud, or do you think it's more?
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:46 am
She is and is not human. She is a human who has become the embodiment of Cloud's light, same as Sephiroth used to be both human and Cloud's darkness. Sephy, however, is merely the latter now, having died/ lost his humanity and come back purely as an avatar of darkness.
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:46 am
That makes a lot of sense. I wasn't sure if the Sephy in Kingdom Hearts was meant to be resurrected or not, you know, with Aeris being alive and all.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:39 pm
Oh hey...I just noticed something. [[Wow....I feel like I haven't been here for ages...]]
But anyways, remember the whole theory about Tifa not physically existing in KHII? Well, after replaying KHII, I found out that Leon does in fact notice her. First in the cutscene when Tifa went into the research lab in Hollow Bastion exclaiming, "so there was a hidden room here." Everyone, including Leon acknowledged her. Secondly, before examining the wall to the DTD, if you go back to talk to Tifa and Leon, Leon makes a remark about how Tifa seemed to have a temper since she was wrecking the room trying to find Cloud.
LOL
Anyways, that theory is invalid because she in fact DOES exist. Since Tifa is visible, I'm sure Sephiroth is visible too...just...we haven't seen him interact with anyone else other than Cloud, Tifa, Sora and the gang.
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