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keito melfina

PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:18 pm


If Evokers actually exist (Persona 3 reference), I would use it on a daily basis...

so many times I want to shoot myself...
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:21 pm


The zCB

It's not really of what people say about me... It's more like.. what they think of me.. you know? I'm just a very insecure/ low self esteem kind of person.. even though you guys probably don't think I would be..I think...


I'm very insecure with low self-esteem too, but I still post here without fear of negative judgment from others.
It might be because I haven't really done anything to be ashamed of, but I'm still self-conscious as hell. XD
Besides, sometimes you just need to... let it all out, y'know? XD I know that if I didn't, I wouldn't be nearly as happy-go-lucky as I usually am.


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Fourth dimension doesn't even qualify as a dimension, being more or less the fact that light doesn't travel instantaneously to every part of the universe. And anything beyond is probably just gibberish.


Some people consider time to be the fourth dimension.

And there might be dimensions beyond that, but I imagine that they would be far beyond human comprehension.

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If Evokers actually exist (Persona 3 reference), I would use it on a daily basis...

so many times I want to shoot myself...


:'D You just won cool points for being a Persona fan~

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:27 pm


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The zCB

It's not really of what people say about me... It's more like.. what they think of me.. you know? I'm just a very insecure/ low self esteem kind of person.. even though you guys probably don't think I would be..I think...


I'm very insecure with low self-esteem too, but I still post here without fear of negative judgment from others.
It might be because I haven't really done anything to be ashamed of, but I'm still self-conscious as hell. XD
Besides, sometimes you just need to... let it all out, y'know? XD I know that if I didn't, I wouldn't be nearly as happy-go-lucky as I usually am.


Divine_Malevolence
Fourth dimension doesn't even qualify as a dimension, being more or less the fact that light doesn't travel instantaneously to every part of the universe. And anything beyond is probably just gibberish.


Some people consider time to be the fourth dimension.

And there might be dimensions beyond that, but I imagine that they would be far beyond human comprehension.
The only logical explanation ever presented to me is the fact we're seeing how stars were thousands of years in the past.
Because light takes a long time to travel such distances.
The 'fourth dimension' is time as in we see what the object was in the past, not as it is now. Because light isn't instantaneous. The distance it is away, and just how fast it's going (Quantum physics. If you're going faster than the speed of light away from something, you're never going to see it, and it will never see you. And if it's going toward you, that light will be going faster. Dumbasses take that to mean it's impossible to exceed that speed) define the fourth dimension.
And anything beyond is something that has never logically presented itself.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:39 pm


Divine_Malevolence
The only logical explanation ever presented to me is the fact we're seeing how stars were thousands of years in the past.
Because light takes a long time to travel such distances.
The 'fourth dimension' is time as in we see what the object was in the past, not as it is now. Because light isn't instantaneous. The distance it is away, and just how fast it's going (Quantum physics. If you're going faster than the speed of light away from something, you're never going to see it, and it will never see you. And if it's going toward you, that light will be going faster. Dumbasses take that to mean it's impossible to exceed that speed) define the fourth dimension.
And anything beyond is something that has never logically presented itself.
Before you go calling people dumbasses Divine, you might want to actually do the research? It's pretty clear you haven't, since Quantum Physics has nothing to do with it xd

The evidence for 3+1 dimensions is actually fairly thorough, but it's pretty advanced.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:53 pm


Yay!! no bad juju just a fever XD
July rocks also I suck at organizing things
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:55 pm


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keito melfina
If Evokers actually exist (Persona 3 reference), I would use it on a daily basis...

so many times I want to shoot myself...


:'D You just won cool points for being a Persona fan~

I <3 Persona 3 =D Sis finished P4 though xD

Evoker = non-lethal so I really wish someone invented it! Idk about the persona part though.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:06 pm


Valheita
Divine_Malevolence
The only logical explanation ever presented to me is the fact we're seeing how stars were thousands of years in the past.
Because light takes a long time to travel such distances.
The 'fourth dimension' is time as in we see what the object was in the past, not as it is now. Because light isn't instantaneous. The distance it is away, and just how fast it's going (Quantum physics. If you're going faster than the speed of light away from something, you're never going to see it, and it will never see you. And if it's going toward you, that light will be going faster. Dumbasses take that to mean it's impossible to exceed that speed) define the fourth dimension.
And anything beyond is something that has never logically presented itself.
Before you go calling people dumbasses Divine, you might want to actually do the research? It's pretty clear you haven't, since Quantum Physics has nothing to do with it xd

The evidence for 3+1 dimensions is actually fairly thorough, but it's pretty advanced.
I've already one plan to blow it outta the water. Simple concept which I've already done a small scale version of with legos, don't ask how.
There's nothing saying that it's impossible to go beyond the speed of light. The equation which screws up when you get to the speed of light merely states how long the light would take to get to you.
Going off of what I believe Einstein said on the subject, in horrible terms, light always goes the speed of light compared to what it's coming off of.
Thus if it's off the arse of something going the speed of light, it's motionless, and will never reach a destination. And as the equation states if you go above that speed, it goes negative, which means that it's going away, and could only have been at the destination in the past.
Nothing states that it's impossible to go faster.

As for dimension numero dos, the rate which light comes off of something is completely relevant. Something coming towards you will yield a more present image than one moving away. Much like a baseball thrown by someone on a car moving toward you will get to you faster than one thrown by a guy on a car moving away.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:10 pm


Divine_Malevolence
Valheita
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The only logical explanation ever presented to me is the fact we're seeing how stars were thousands of years in the past.
Because light takes a long time to travel such distances.
The 'fourth dimension' is time as in we see what the object was in the past, not as it is now. Because light isn't instantaneous. The distance it is away, and just how fast it's going (Quantum physics. If you're going faster than the speed of light away from something, you're never going to see it, and it will never see you. And if it's going toward you, that light will be going faster. Dumbasses take that to mean it's impossible to exceed that speed) define the fourth dimension.
And anything beyond is something that has never logically presented itself.
Before you go calling people dumbasses Divine, you might want to actually do the research? It's pretty clear you haven't, since Quantum Physics has nothing to do with it xd

The evidence for 3+1 dimensions is actually fairly thorough, but it's pretty advanced.
I've already one plan to blow it outta the water. Simple concept which I've already done a small scale version of with legos, don't ask how.
There's nothing saying that it's impossible to go beyond the speed of light. The equation which screws up when you get to the speed of light merely states how long the light would take to get to you.
Going off of what I believe Einstein said on the subject, in horrible terms, light always goes the speed of light compared to what it's coming off of.
Thus if it's off the arse of something going the speed of light, it's motionless, and will never reach a destination. And as the equation states if you go above that speed, it goes negative, which means that it's going away, and could only have been at the destination in the past.
Nothing states that it's impossible to go faster.

As for dimension numero dos, the rate which light comes off of something is completely relevant. Something coming towards you will yield a more present image than one moving away. Much like a baseball thrown by someone on a car moving toward you will get to you faster than one thrown by a guy on a car moving away.
See, this is why you do the research. The argument against travelling faster than light is that to travel at such speeds would violate causality.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:14 pm


keito melfina
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EDIT:

keito melfina
If Evokers actually exist (Persona 3 reference), I would use it on a daily basis...

so many times I want to shoot myself...


:'D You just won cool points for being a Persona fan~

I <3 Persona 3 =D Sis finished P4 though xD

Evoker = non-lethal so I really wish someone invented it! Idk about the persona part though.


My friend loves Persona. XD She already has P3, but she wants to get P3P, too.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:17 pm


Valheita
Divine_Malevolence
Valheita
Divine_Malevolence
The only logical explanation ever presented to me is the fact we're seeing how stars were thousands of years in the past.
Because light takes a long time to travel such distances.
The 'fourth dimension' is time as in we see what the object was in the past, not as it is now. Because light isn't instantaneous. The distance it is away, and just how fast it's going (Quantum physics. If you're going faster than the speed of light away from something, you're never going to see it, and it will never see you. And if it's going toward you, that light will be going faster. Dumbasses take that to mean it's impossible to exceed that speed) define the fourth dimension.
And anything beyond is something that has never logically presented itself.
Before you go calling people dumbasses Divine, you might want to actually do the research? It's pretty clear you haven't, since Quantum Physics has nothing to do with it xd

The evidence for 3+1 dimensions is actually fairly thorough, but it's pretty advanced.
I've already one plan to blow it outta the water. Simple concept which I've already done a small scale version of with legos, don't ask how.
There's nothing saying that it's impossible to go beyond the speed of light. The equation which screws up when you get to the speed of light merely states how long the light would take to get to you.
Going off of what I believe Einstein said on the subject, in horrible terms, light always goes the speed of light compared to what it's coming off of.
Thus if it's off the arse of something going the speed of light, it's motionless, and will never reach a destination. And as the equation states if you go above that speed, it goes negative, which means that it's going away, and could only have been at the destination in the past.
Nothing states that it's impossible to go faster.

As for dimension numero dos, the rate which light comes off of something is completely relevant. Something coming towards you will yield a more present image than one moving away. Much like a baseball thrown by someone on a car moving toward you will get to you faster than one thrown by a guy on a car moving away.
See, this is why you do the research. The argument against travelling faster than light is that to travel at such speeds would violate causality.
So..... Things can't go that fast because it would violate the cause and effect bit?
That statement sounds really, really stupid. I can't go a certain speed because there will be effects not caused by anything!
There's no way to cause something to go faster than that speed at the moment that isn't light itself(Which breaks that speed when compared to you every time you accelerate in any way) in this day and age. And it'd be a pain overall, with a lack of physical means to do so efficiently. So I guess you can say we're not causing anything to go that fast, but beyond that.....
*Snicker*
Sounds amusing.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:28 pm


Divine_Malevolence
The only logical explanation ever presented to me is the fact we're seeing how stars were thousands of years in the past.
Because light takes a long time to travel such distances.
The 'fourth dimension' is time as in we see what the object was in the past, not as it is now. Because light isn't instantaneous. The distance it is away, and just how fast it's going (Quantum physics. If you're going faster than the speed of light away from something, you're never going to see it, and it will never see you. And if it's going toward you, that light will be going faster. Dumbasses take that to mean it's impossible to exceed that speed) define the fourth dimension.
And anything beyond is something that has never logically presented itself.
Did you just call Einstein and Sagan dumbasses?
The 4th dimension isn't time.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:29 pm


Divine_Malevolence
So..... Things can't go that fast because it would violate the cause and effect bit?
That statement sounds really, really stupid. I can't go a certain speed because there will be effects not caused by anything!
There's no way to cause something to go faster than that speed at the moment that isn't light itself(Which breaks that speed when compared to you every time you accelerate in any way) in this day and age. And it'd be a pain overall, with a lack of physical means to do so efficiently. So I guess you can say we're not causing anything to go that fast, but beyond that.....
*Snicker*
Sounds amusing.


Resorting to condescension doesn't make your argument any more valid.

...Just sayin'.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:30 pm


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Divine_Malevolence
The only logical explanation ever presented to me is the fact we're seeing how stars were thousands of years in the past.
Because light takes a long time to travel such distances.
The 'fourth dimension' is time as in we see what the object was in the past, not as it is now. Because light isn't instantaneous. The distance it is away, and just how fast it's going (Quantum physics. If you're going faster than the speed of light away from something, you're never going to see it, and it will never see you. And if it's going toward you, that light will be going faster. Dumbasses take that to mean it's impossible to exceed that speed) define the fourth dimension.
And anything beyond is something that has never logically presented itself.
Did you just call Einstein and Sagan dumbasses?
The 4th dimension isn't time.
Nope. Einstein said light will always be going faster than you, but never said that you're incapable of going past a certain speed.
And numero four seems to be disagreed upon as to what exactly it is. Some say time, some say "Lolno". I guess that makes you one of the latter.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:32 pm


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Divine_Malevolence
So..... Things can't go that fast because it would violate the cause and effect bit?
That statement sounds really, really stupid. I can't go a certain speed because there will be effects not caused by anything!
There's no way to cause something to go faster than that speed at the moment that isn't light itself(Which breaks that speed when compared to you every time you accelerate in any way) in this day and age. And it'd be a pain overall, with a lack of physical means to do so efficiently. So I guess you can say we're not causing anything to go that fast, but beyond that.....
*Snicker*
Sounds amusing.


Resorting to condescension doesn't make your argument any more valid.

...Just sayin'.
It breaks up monotony.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:35 pm


Divine_Malevolence
Valheita
Divine_Malevolence
Valheita
Divine_Malevolence
The only logical explanation ever presented to me is the fact we're seeing how stars were thousands of years in the past.
Because light takes a long time to travel such distances.
The 'fourth dimension' is time as in we see what the object was in the past, not as it is now. Because light isn't instantaneous. The distance it is away, and just how fast it's going (Quantum physics. If you're going faster than the speed of light away from something, you're never going to see it, and it will never see you. And if it's going toward you, that light will be going faster. Dumbasses take that to mean it's impossible to exceed that speed) define the fourth dimension.
And anything beyond is something that has never logically presented itself.
Before you go calling people dumbasses Divine, you might want to actually do the research? It's pretty clear you haven't, since Quantum Physics has nothing to do with it xd

The evidence for 3+1 dimensions is actually fairly thorough, but it's pretty advanced.
I've already one plan to blow it outta the water. Simple concept which I've already done a small scale version of with legos, don't ask how.
There's nothing saying that it's impossible to go beyond the speed of light. The equation which screws up when you get to the speed of light merely states how long the light would take to get to you.
Going off of what I believe Einstein said on the subject, in horrible terms, light always goes the speed of light compared to what it's coming off of.
Thus if it's off the arse of something going the speed of light, it's motionless, and will never reach a destination. And as the equation states if you go above that speed, it goes negative, which means that it's going away, and could only have been at the destination in the past.
Nothing states that it's impossible to go faster.

As for dimension numero dos, the rate which light comes off of something is completely relevant. Something coming towards you will yield a more present image than one moving away. Much like a baseball thrown by someone on a car moving toward you will get to you faster than one thrown by a guy on a car moving away.
See, this is why you do the research. The argument against travelling faster than light is that to travel at such speeds would violate causality.
So..... Things can't go that fast because it would violate the cause and effect bit?
That statement sounds really, really stupid. I can't go a certain speed because there will be effects not caused by anything!
There's no way to cause something to go faster than that speed at the moment that isn't light itself(Which breaks that speed when compared to you every time you accelerate in any way) in this day and age. And it'd be a pain overall, with a lack of physical means to do so efficiently. So I guess you can say we're not causing anything to go that fast, but beyond that.....
*Snicker*
Sounds amusing.
Because the effect will happen before the cause. That's the danger of violating the speed of light in a relative time-space.

'sides which, as your speed approaches light-speed, your mass becomes infinite so... Yeah, good luck getting the energy to push infinite mass that fast.
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