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 Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:36 am
Personally, I just don't see a Chaos Space marine being as fanatical to his dark god than a space marine to his emperor...for one from past instances we already know they're not exactly super loyalists. wink
Also, just because you can make them cost more points doesn't mean that they have to cost less, what about CSM armies who don't bring very many Daemons? Heh, and besides I'd kill for the low point cost of some of those marks on my people.
Oh, and with lacking units...first off, xp don't even start with me, I play the infinately funded Grey knights and can't take half the stuff space marines and Chaos space marines can take..not sure how that works? But anyway, your chaos raptors are pretty much assault squads only with hit and run aren't they? Your dreadnought does cost 30 points less than a space marine dreadnought (not surprising) and doesn't sound like it really kills it's own all that often. Also although those obliterators cost alot, they're deffinately worth it for they have something in them for almost every shooty situation, plus the point is you have them, space marines don't. xp
The painting thing though...I do agree it is a huge part of warhammer 40k. Although I deffinately seem to get caught up in the fluff and story writing vibe of it more though...we're all different huh? mrgreen
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:00 am
XRedSamuraiX Personally, I just don't see a Chaos Space marine being as fanatical to his dark god than a space marine to his emperor...for one from past instances we already know they're not exactly super loyalists. wink Also, just because you can make them cost more points doesn't mean that they have to cost less, what about CSM armies who don't bring very many Daemons? Heh, and besides I'd kill for the low point cost of some of those marks on my people. Oh, and with lacking units...first off, xp don't even start with me, I play the infinately funded Grey knights and can't take half the stuff space marines and Chaos space marines can take..not sure how that works? But anyway, your chaos raptors are pretty much assault squads only with hit and run aren't they? Your dreadnought does cost 30 points less than a space marine dreadnought (not surprising) and doesn't sound like it really kills it's own all that often. Also although those obliterators cost alot, they're deffinately worth it for they have something in them for almost every shooty situation, plus the point is you have them, space marines don't. xp The painting thing though...I do agree it is a huge part of warhammer 40k. Although I deffinately seem to get caught up in the fluff and story writing vibe of it more though...we're all different huh? mrgreen
I dunno. It's the power of Chaos that makes them believe.
4laugh
Um. The dreadnaught kills our own men. We have a lot of...suicidal units.
I was thinking of writing my own fluff story too.
-Mykal
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:07 am
A.R.G.U.S Mykal XRedSamuraiX Personally, I just don't see a Chaos Space marine being as fanatical to his dark god than a space marine to his emperor...for one from past instances we already know they're not exactly super loyalists. wink Also, just because you can make them cost more points doesn't mean that they have to cost less, what about CSM armies who don't bring very many Daemons? Heh, and besides I'd kill for the low point cost of some of those marks on my people. Oh, and with lacking units...first off, xp don't even start with me, I play the infinately funded Grey knights and can't take half the stuff space marines and Chaos space marines can take..not sure how that works? But anyway, your chaos raptors are pretty much assault squads only with hit and run aren't they? Your dreadnought does cost 30 points less than a space marine dreadnought (not surprising) and doesn't sound like it really kills it's own all that often. Also although those obliterators cost alot, they're deffinately worth it for they have something in them for almost every shooty situation, plus the point is you have them, space marines don't. xp The painting thing though...I do agree it is a huge part of warhammer 40k. Although I deffinately seem to get caught up in the fluff and story writing vibe of it more though...we're all different huh? mrgreen
I dunno. It's the power of Chaos that makes them believe.
4laugh
Um. The dreadnaught kills our own men. We have a lot of...suicidal units.
I was thinking of writing my own fluff story too.
-Mykal Heh, thats the point...thier chaos. wink Actually, I know I'm going to get smacked around for this, but I wouldn't really mind if you did have less suicidal units, but I deffinately think that the Greater Daemons, or at least the blood thirster, if not in combat for three turns, should begin forcefully killing his own units for fun instead. Those things do honestly care less about thier marines and would problably enjoy giving them a beatdown like that every so often. (And post that fluff to me if you do make it, I'd enjoy reading it.)
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:43 am
XRedSamuraiX A.R.G.U.S Mykal XRedSamuraiX Personally, I just don't see a Chaos Space marine being as fanatical to his dark god than a space marine to his emperor...for one from past instances we already know they're not exactly super loyalists. wink Also, just because you can make them cost more points doesn't mean that they have to cost less, what about CSM armies who don't bring very many Daemons? Heh, and besides I'd kill for the low point cost of some of those marks on my people. Oh, and with lacking units...first off, xp don't even start with me, I play the infinately funded Grey knights and can't take half the stuff space marines and Chaos space marines can take..not sure how that works? But anyway, your chaos raptors are pretty much assault squads only with hit and run aren't they? Your dreadnought does cost 30 points less than a space marine dreadnought (not surprising) and doesn't sound like it really kills it's own all that often. Also although those obliterators cost alot, they're deffinately worth it for they have something in them for almost every shooty situation, plus the point is you have them, space marines don't. xp The painting thing though...I do agree it is a huge part of warhammer 40k. Although I deffinately seem to get caught up in the fluff and story writing vibe of it more though...we're all different huh? mrgreen
I dunno. It's the power of Chaos that makes them believe.
4laugh
Um. The dreadnaught kills our own men. We have a lot of...suicidal units.
I was thinking of writing my own fluff story too.
-Mykal Heh, thats the point...thier chaos. wink Actually, I know I'm going to get smacked around for this, but I wouldn't really mind if you did have less suicidal units, but I deffinately think that the Greater Daemons, or at least the blood thirster, if not in combat for three turns, should begin forcefully killing his own units for fun instead. Those things do honestly care less about thier marines and would problably enjoy giving them a beatdown like that every so often. (And post that fluff to me if you do make it, I'd enjoy reading it.)
I'd enjoy that, if just for the sheer entertainment of it.
I've not even started the fluff yet. It's an idea bouncing about.
-Mykal
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:51 am
Hmm, a good way to really get out a good fluff story quick, is to play a decent game with a friends and go ahead and right about it. Me and dart have come up with several that way.
just a suggestion.^^
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:07 pm
XRedSamuraiX Hmm, a good way to really get out a good fluff story quick, is to play a decent game with a friends and go ahead and right about it. Me and dart have come up with several that way. just a suggestion.^^
Oh, I know that's I'm doing. It's a Slaaneshi storyline.
I collece curgle, but I have the kickass storyline set up.
-Mykal
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:36 pm
Since this is CSM, would me buying a Thousands Sons amry(about 5k pts) for 200-300 dollars be worth it?
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:45 pm
Follow the Leader Since this is CSM, would me buying a Thousands Sons amry(about 5k pts) for 200-300 dollars be worth it? When looking at it before playing 40k I would say. Is buying a bunch of little plastic pieces for 200-300 dollars worth it? No way! Now that I play 40k and have been brainwashed by none other than GW itself. Wow, thats quite a deal you've got going for you! If you think you'd like a thousand sons army, go for it. If you don't think they'd be a fun army to play but your going for it just for the deal...I'd think twice about it.
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:56 pm
XRedSamuraiX Follow the Leader Since this is CSM, would me buying a Thousands Sons amry(about 5k pts) for 200-300 dollars be worth it? When looking at it before playing 40k I would say. Is buying a bunch of little plastic pieces for 200-300 dollars worth it? No way! Now that I play 40k and have been brainwashed by none other than GW itself. Wow, thats quite a deal you've got going for you! If you think you'd like a thousand sons army, go for it. If you don't think they'd be a fun army to play but your going for it just for the deal...I'd think twice about it.
For what it's worth, yeah. Thousand sons units are expensive, both points and cash. Theyire a good army, but hard to paint, because of the details.
For 200 quid, (Estimated conversion rates included) I'd highly consider it.
As long, of course, as long as you have the money.
-Mykal
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:01 pm
I would like a Thousand Sons army.. I don't have the money, but I COULD save up for a little bit.. shouldn't be TOO hard..
Also, my friend(he's unstoppable, has only lost to one person[has 3k pts in Khorne]) says I should get them, then we could team up and own.. So I have been thinking for a couple days, and I wanted to see your guys' inputs.. Thanks..
I shall buy them.. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:08 pm
Follow the Leader I would like a Thousand Sons army.. I don't have the money, but I COULD save up for a little bit.. shouldn't be TOO hard.. Also, my friend(he's unstoppable, has only lost to one person[has 3k pts in Khorne]) says I should get them, then we could team up and own.. So I have been thinking for a couple days, and I wanted to see your guys' inputs.. Thanks.. I shall buy them.. 3nodding Ya, if you like the thousand sons then deffinately go for it. Especially if your friend plays Khorne, trust me it is a load of fun teaming up with a friend in 40k. Especially when the alliance makes since. Me and Dart team up all the time and have yet to be defeated, space marines and grey knights work well together. I'm sure that Khorne and Tzeentch will also have quite an alliance. (although often times according to chaos fluff, that match up wouldn't work I'm pretty sure...I forget who of the chaos gods can team up with eachother.)
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:28 pm
Khorne and Slaanesh have a rivalry(Slaanesh sees khorne as being unrefined, Khorne sees Slaanesh as too soft) And Nurgle has a rivalry with Tzeentch (Nurgle is all about decay and death, Tzeentch is change and evolution)
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:32 pm
Chakra_Thief Khorne and Slaanesh have a rivalry(Slaanesh sees khorne as being unrefined, Khorne sees Slaanesh as too soft) And Nurgle has a rivalry with Tzeentch (Nurgle is all about decay and death, Tzeentch is change and evolution)
But Tzeench is the cunning one. He'll put aside his differences for a greater good, like Chaos Undivided. He's the knot that holds together the panthron of Gods.
3nodding
-Mykal
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:33 pm
Chakra_Thief Khorne and Slaanesh have a rivalry(Slaanesh sees khorne as being unrefined, Khorne sees Slaanesh as too soft) And Nurgle has a rivalry with Tzeentch (Nurgle is all about decay and death, Tzeentch is change and evolution) Oh, alright. Thank you for clearing that up. So then ya I guess, Tzeentch and Khorne will work fine. (heh, 50/50 shot...you got lucky. Who likes paired games that wouldn't actually work.)
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:35 pm
A.R.G.U.S Mykal Chakra_Thief Khorne and Slaanesh have a rivalry(Slaanesh sees khorne as being unrefined, Khorne sees Slaanesh as too soft) And Nurgle has a rivalry with Tzeentch (Nurgle is all about decay and death, Tzeentch is change and evolution)
But Tzeench is the cunning one. He'll put aside his differences for a greater good, like Chaos Undivided. He's the knot that holds together the panthron of Gods.
3nodding
-Mykal Very true
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