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Rattrap had to pause for a moment, that was a good question. He didnt know about any weak points persay "As far as I know, get really really lucky" He said. "It can regenerate from any wound and Like me and Spots is transmetle two so it dosent need much Engergon, if any at all. And If it fights you once it rembures how you fight and caculates the every move." He guessed that was his fault to some extent.

This was intersting, and well Knock Out was wondering if it was still there, And why risk anyone else on his time. If there is a way to trap it then they would have to figure it out "What do you think Let the Autobots have this tidbit watch how it fights them then figure out a way to trap it for ourselfs" he asked Breakdown, "Why get our hands dirty if it will do some dirty work for us without knowing it after all"

That was a very good point, Knock Out knew that they still had plunty of places they coulf get Engergon from for the time being and they wouldent wast any if they let the Autobots do it. "Well ill need simething to listen to while i fall into recharge wont I Breakdown" Really what was better than hearing the screams of the dieing. He knew he loved seeing a look of fear and hearing bots screaming when hes able to preform his mad doctor skills on them.

" Well its Chapperfaces clone....and it cant fly....unless it grew wings...so i would say sides" Rattrap said, that was what the most likely in his mind. Though this wasent for sure, He would pause and look around, "Ya hear that....its to quiet" This could mean a few things, jest that there was a commen predator around, or something else, he had been stuck there long enough to know that if its quit then something there.

Rattrap knew he hurd something, Him being on high alert and his ears twitching to the derictions he thought he hurt what ever it was comeing from. It could be the clone he knew that. Or it could be a con as well, though that was not likely since if it was then they would have been attacked by now.
He turned his head thinking he hurd some russling, he did see some suddle movement in the tall grass and low bushed. Now most would say it was the wind, but he could feel that there was no wind blowingright now. He singled to the Red prime to Ame at the spot he didnt know what was there or if it was still there but he wasent going to take any chances.

"Well after natruly" Knock Out said with a smirk on his his end. Breakdown really did know him well, probely why he seems to get so annoyed with everyone else now, none of them knew exactly how to please him and the right way to do anything. and though Breakdown took a long time to learn it was well worht it.

Rattrap knew that they couldent be any more jumpy but that they should. "Were not being jumpy enough" he said. Though it was true they didnt even know if the close was there. "I got a way to see if its here...though Spots wont like it if he found out i did this" It was dangerous but it has worked before and it was one way he figured that he could get the clone out if it was there. "Whats wrong Chapperface been stuck here so long you lost your nerve and forgot how to fight you scrappen weakling " he all but yelled out, if this didnt get

Knock Out really wondered sometimes why he was the one that was put in charge, he really didnt think it was the best choise but who was he to argue " Why wast troops when theres something out there willing to do the work for ua" he commed back. "and dont take long Breakdown, all this stress from being incharge has left me feelong...pint up"

Optimus would have told Rodimus to mind himeself but given the situation he felt the same way at the moment. After all this all seemed a little to convenionet to all be happing at once. "I would like to know that as well, this dose seem odd all this happing at once" he said agreeing in wanting to know what was going on exactly.
"well kid, first of all the clone has an indrestubaul spark, and dosent need Engorgon" Rattrap said with a shrug "and dont say theres a way to kill everything, i tryed killing that thing before sevral times and it cant be done" though that didnt mean they couldent take the spark out but that also was much easer said than done.
Hound mostly ignored Rattrap but he did have points "and were here, because Sentinal is slowly killing Cybertron and dosent even know it, and the way to save our home is to stop the Decepticons here, belive it or not there are some on Cybertron that are on your side in this war. even if Sentinal dosent like that"

Optimus would have shot a worning glance to Rodimus, this time though, He let the remark slide mostly because, he knew it was going to come. As to what they were going to DO that was something even he wasent sure of anymore. "...We cant relie on Cybertron or Sentinal..." he knew that now. He knew it was going to be heard but they would have to find a way to suvrive "and we cant count on the humans anymore..." He knew looking around that everyone seemed to be thinking the same thing, and knew whare he was going with this. "We need to find Engergon and a new place to call our base, The decepticons and humans know of this one...if we want to live then we will need to hide" for the time being that is what they could do.

"Oh something deffernt you say...we could go Faze if you would rather that" Knock Out said the smirk can he heard in his voice. He liked drive in and he needed to do something to relix so it was eather this or Faze. Breakdown could pick what one they do. He wouldent say no to ether.

Rattrap and Cheetor both knew how to suvrive there with little, but they didnt exaclly have to hide from humans last time they were stuck on this planet. "when we were here last we got stuck in what is now know dalled Aferica" Rattrap said, that might be there best bet again. "Id say we should eather look there, theres places humans have a heard time getting to there, and if were lucky some raw engrgon we can find to use" that would be the best bet to him "or we all die horrabuly trying to jest get a spot" that was also an option.
Optimus was startting to think that the Afirca thing was becomeing more and more likely. though he didnt want to move everyone without being sure that they had someplace to go to. He shuttered his Optics and pinched the brige of his nose "Ill look over to see if there is any place that we can possabuly use" he said. This wasent going to be easy, but he should have known that things were not going to be, there easy way of life on Earth is comeing to an end and they needed to get used to it.

Knock Out partly hoped that Breakdown would have chooen the fazing option. Though he had learned that if Breakdown dosent want to do that then he shouldent push him, that would only end in something getten broken or dome bot dead. "there a showing going on of one of the paranormal actitvtiy movies i forget what one" he said "we could see that, unless you want to see something that wont mess with your paranoia " he wasent saying that to be mean but he was honestly trying to show some degree of concern for his Partner.

Knock Out, even though he was currently running things was still a medic, for the most part he would let the cons wo what they wanted, ovesely when something important came up he would give Orders but he found he really only liked Ordering Breakdown around. "you want to go for a drive, im starting to really hate being couped up in here" the red car asked his assistent. It was now kind of an unspoken rule that no one go out on there own given what MECH can do, Though Knock Out really only cared about what they did to Breakdown.

Optimus was finaly at the end of his rope with everything that was going on. He could see his hole team was stressed and the human didnt seem to want them around anymore. Good thing Rodimus could atleast move and not be inside a bubble anymore. He had few options he knew that. If they were to move they would need someplace big enought for everyone, with the tecnaolgey to still be able to comuacate and track cons, and be away from humans. Dinobot Island was still to close. Optimus sighed he really only saw one option, and this was a while in the making, since now he knew he could reach her and she was still alive.
They had worn out there welcome with the humans, and MECH knew ware they were, he had to think about everyones saftey. When he was sure everyone was recharging he opened a chanel "BlackArachinea." he only hoped that she answered.