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In 4th, Skimmers only ever crashed upon being Immobilized if you moved over 6". If you moved 6" or less, then you made a forced landing and simply continued to function without being able to move and no longer counting as a skimmer. The Monolith was and is incapable of going fast enough to make crashing an issue. I suppose you could make the argument that the Ponderous rule's restriction of movement is meant to prevent a crash, but given that this is a 3rd ed. Codex, I believe that it's written with 3rd ed rules in mind, and that text is there to prevent the Monolith from drifting.

Hi everybody, I has read the new update book for Apocopysle, and we get some sweet new formations for using Immortals and flayed ones. And we also get a sweet new vechile update, we thought that the Nodal grid was sweet, but now we get The Doomsday Monolith! can't remeber exactly what it does, but i do remebr it have a 92in partical whip, Sweetness!

Well, 2 Monoliths are okay, and you've got the HD's for dedicated anti-tank. Personally though, I'd drop all of the Warriors down to 10 each, and the double Lord is unnecessary. With the spare points, you can get two wings of two Wraiths each and a bunch of Scarabs, both great tie-up units you can use to hold up assault units. Alternately, you could drop a squad of Warriors and the second lord to field the Deceiver as a counter assault/morale damage/redeployment unit, and still have some spare points to either field more Warriors or a minimum size squad of Scarabs.

I got to have a closer look at the update book today. You can upgrade one of your Monoliths into a Doomsday monolith, then it's gets structure points, all the usaul weapons, plus upgraded partical whips, which uses a larger blast template, and has longer range than usual. Sweetness!

Well I personally love the big D. The deployment alone can be worth the entire game. However I feel it is better to have two rez orbs on the field so that I can keep my boys coming back. With the orbs placed in the right spots they can effect two units and keep them from being instantly killed. I am getting the big D to go in my army at some point just not for this tournament.

Huh? How are you not going to use the Deciever as a dedicated combat unit? He's got the same toughness and wounds as the NB, one point less Str, and still above average WS. Really, the major differences between the two are in their special abilities. Abilities that the Deciever can utilize, but the Nightbringer will not be able to, as a MC without fleet or fast movement.

You often don't need to redeploy your whole army. Remember, in Spearhead and Dawn of War deployments, deploying one of your units forward means that when your opponent deploys, he has to be 18" away from any of your units. You put up one of your units of Warriors as close as possible to his deployment zone, push back his deployment, then use your one guaranteed redeploy to pull your Warriors back. Any additional moves you get to make are just gravy.



I assume you mean the Nightbringer here, since you're speaking in contrast. Pushing away only works on units that are not S4. Surprise! Marine Powerfists of both flavors and Orks on the charge are still going to stick around to swing that Powerfist at the NB. So are Genestealers. In fact, Implant Attack Genestealers are pretty good at giving the NB a bad case of dead, and the push away attack doesn't work on them. The thing with the NB is that he's so slow that any assault unit that wants to mix it up with him will do so, and units that don't want to be assaulted can just move away and never have to deal with him.

And... Flayed Ones and Pariahs? You're joking right? Flayed Ones are a rare enough sight on the table and nobody but nobody takes Pariahs. More importantly, even if you were capable of pushing dangerous assault squads off of your C'tan and towards your assault units, that's generally the LAST thing you want to do as a Necron player, because the biggest Necron weakness right now is being assaulted and run down. C'tan don't need to worry that much about being assaulted; the rest of your army does.


No. No it doesn't. It provides an entirely different effect on WBB, one that is arguably less helpful. Also, it isn't a Necron, and blows in both shooting and assault.

The glancing shots can still kill a vehicle. Here is how it works. Roll the dice and subtract two. 6=4 5=3 4=2 3=1 2=1 1=1 . At this point if you roll let us say two 6 and three 5 and a 3 you could kill the vehicle. If you get multiple immobilizes they turn into weapon destroyed. If there are no weapons left the vehicle is then turned into a big smoking pile of wrecked junk. Feel the love. You can still glance them to death it is just a lot harder. Okay I have rethought my tournament list and I have this as a really balanced answer.
1 monolith
1 nightbringer
56 warriors
3 heavy destroyers
1 lord with orb and veil
total points 1998.
I ran a few games with this army and it tore up the enemy. I love the close combat of the nightbringer and the 3 heavy destroyers took out the enemy big guns before they could use them on my troops. It is a great set up.