Are the skills in The Hachimon or Eight Gates (Taijutsu Style) that are not Gates (ie., Front Lotus, Ura Renge, etc.) treated as Complex Taijutsu, or Ninjutsu during training? it is not specified.
At what rank can you learn Fuuinjutsu?
Also same question as Synister Bombardment?
AandOE
Ergo War
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:33 pm
Azzurro Skyde
Synister Bombardment
Eight Gates: Complex Taijutsu, I believe.
Fuuin: Typically Jounin-Rank.
Formless Styles: Locked styles rank up automatically as you do, starting at D-Rank for Genin and going from there. All Formless Styles and Formless Techniques are trained as simple Taijutsu, but consume Formless slots. For the Formless Styles, each rank trained consumes one Formless slot, and is trained as a simple Taijutsu technique of that rank. The locked style is the only one that can progress to S+Rank, which can be achieved when one becomes a Sannin, and all other styles are capped at plain S-Rank. Slots expended to advance the locked style beyond your current rank are refunded when you reach the appropriate rank. In combat, Formless techniques function the same as simple Taijutsu and cover all of the basic skill one needs to effectively fight a certain way, with higher ranks representing more skilled or powerful movements. They're trumped by complex techniques and Ninjutsu of the same rank, however. Basically, Formless is all of the standard training with a weapon, and the Taijutsu and Bukijutsu Styles represent a certain method of using them as a Shinobi. Rock Lee and Might Guy's punches and kicks would be Formless, whereas the Eight Gates would represent their application of Chakra to their fighting style. Does that make sense and/or answer the question? If I got anything wrong, I'm sure AandOE will correct me.
Hiya! I have a question about the limitations of Jiton, I hope someone can help me out.
Would it be within the realm of the passive manipulation to create weapons from the iron/gold dust? Or to create spikes from a mound of the metallic dust? So, let's say my character wants to learn the lance style of bukijutsu, could she simply form a lance from her iron sand in the heat of battle?
I am a genin. Genin uses Mushi Jamingu no Jutsu [ Insect Jamming Technique ]
That's all 500 of the genin's insects in just one technique. Shino never seemed to have this kind of problem. Does this seriously mean that the genin would be unable to use another bloodline technique for the remainder of the fight? That seems kind of... suckish to me. Unless I'm missing something this makes the Aburame clan almost completely useless, which I think is why there are no members of that clan. I really want to make an Aburame but this just seems... bad to me. The only way to regenerate your insects that I can see is Hijutsu: Mushimayu [ Secret Technique: Insect Cocoon ] which would be completely impossible to use in an actual fight.
Edit: It also doesn't help at all that the majority of C and B rank techniques are completely unusable until the Aburame becomes a jounin. I don't know I just feel like the Aburame clan needs a bit of tweaking to be more... useful lol
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:45 am
Disturbed Otaku
Stupid noob question about the Aburame clan.
I am a genin. Genin uses Mushi Jamingu no Jutsu [ Insect Jamming Technique ]
That's all 500 of the genin's insects in just one technique. Shino never seemed to have this kind of problem. Does this seriously mean that the genin would be unable to use another bloodline technique for the remainder of the fight? That seems kind of... suckish to me. Unless I'm missing something this makes the Aburame clan almost completely useless, which I think is why there are no members of that clan. I really want to make an Aburame but this just seems... bad to me. The only way to regenerate your insects that I can see is Hijutsu: Mushimayu [ Secret Technique: Insect Cocoon ] which would be completely impossible to use in an actual fight.
Edit: It also doesn't help at all that the majority of C and B rank techniques are completely unusable until the Aburame becomes a jounin. I don't know I just feel like the Aburame clan needs a bit of tweaking to be more... useful lol
It does use an entire genin's worth of bugs, but you must bear in mind that these, hwever, if a Aburame were to equip one's self properly, for ten chakra, you get them right back-- Please refer to clan limitations. Bear in mind, the skill you refer to effectively blinds all passive sensor bonuses, sensor skills (except maybe the doton one) and doujutsu due to all the chakra in the area.
The earlier skills are indeed relatively costly, but the speed in which an average member ranks up is enough to where that isn't an issue, as once you rank up it's more affordable. Plus, you must keep in mind that almost all techniques usable by Aburame genin are in fact zero hand signs to use (mass advantage over ocular bloodlines).
You just haven't quite understood the strengths of the clan. Reread it a couple more times. The coccoon skill is far more usable in later ranks with skills and chakra to support distraction. Mushiyose i also usable in conjuction with almost every higher up Aburame skill as well.
Hiya! I have a question about the limitations of Jiton, I hope someone can help me out.
Would it be within the realm of the passive manipulation to create weapons from the iron/gold dust? Or to create spikes from a mound of the metallic dust? So, let's say my character wants to learn the lance style of bukijutsu, could she simply form a lance from her iron sand in the heat of battle?
Thank you, I appreciate your help.~
I'd argue a spike would be usable, but your dust would not be usable for weapons as it is still dust. Plus, the you cross into koton (black steel) release territory..
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:10 pm
Mana_ecl Zetsuya
Disturbed Otaku
Stupid noob question about the Aburame clan.
I am a genin. Genin uses Mushi Jamingu no Jutsu [ Insect Jamming Technique ]
That's all 500 of the genin's insects in just one technique. Shino never seemed to have this kind of problem. Does this seriously mean that the genin would be unable to use another bloodline technique for the remainder of the fight? That seems kind of... suckish to me. Unless I'm missing something this makes the Aburame clan almost completely useless, which I think is why there are no members of that clan. I really want to make an Aburame but this just seems... bad to me. The only way to regenerate your insects that I can see is Hijutsu: Mushimayu [ Secret Technique: Insect Cocoon ] which would be completely impossible to use in an actual fight.
Edit: It also doesn't help at all that the majority of C and B rank techniques are completely unusable until the Aburame becomes a jounin. I don't know I just feel like the Aburame clan needs a bit of tweaking to be more... useful lol
It does use an entire genin's worth of bugs, but you must bear in mind that these, hwever, if a Aburame were to equip one's self properly, for ten chakra, you get them right back-- Please refer to clan limitations. Bear in mind, the skill you refer to effectively blinds all passive sensor bonuses, sensor skills (except maybe the doton one) and doujutsu due to all the chakra in the area.
The earlier skills are indeed relatively costly, but the speed in which an average member ranks up is enough to where that isn't an issue, as once you rank up it's more affordable. Plus, you must keep in mind that almost all techniques usable by Aburame genin are in fact zero hand signs to use (mass advantage over ocular bloodlines).
You just haven't quite understood the strengths of the clan. Reread it a couple more times. The coccoon skill is far more usable in later ranks with skills and chakra to support distraction. Mushiyose i also usable in conjuction with almost every higher up Aburame skill as well.
Thanks for all your help! Just a few more noob questions about the clan and I'll be out of your hair.
• Hauling around a heavy jar/gourd hive will provide 500 insects regenerated per post per D-rank chakra given. (1 regen per post) Does this mean that the only way to regen bugs is by carrying around a heavy jar/gourd?
If your insects don't die do you still use them up?
Biggest question. I really don't want to be forced to take up special ranks (like Anbu and... whatever the heck Oinin is cause I know I'll never get Kage) because I doubt I'll ever even be able to get thosr ranks lol so is a personal letting me start with more bugs than notmsl possible?
I am a genin. Genin uses Mushi Jamingu no Jutsu [ Insect Jamming Technique ]
That's all 500 of the genin's insects in just one technique. Shino never seemed to have this kind of problem. Does this seriously mean that the genin would be unable to use another bloodline technique for the remainder of the fight? That seems kind of... suckish to me. Unless I'm missing something this makes the Aburame clan almost completely useless, which I think is why there are no members of that clan. I really want to make an Aburame but this just seems... bad to me. The only way to regenerate your insects that I can see is Hijutsu: Mushimayu [ Secret Technique: Insect Cocoon ] which would be completely impossible to use in an actual fight.
Edit: It also doesn't help at all that the majority of C and B rank techniques are completely unusable until the Aburame becomes a jounin. I don't know I just feel like the Aburame clan needs a bit of tweaking to be more... useful lol
It does use an entire genin's worth of bugs, but you must bear in mind that these, hwever, if a Aburame were to equip one's self properly, for ten chakra, you get them right back-- Please refer to clan limitations. Bear in mind, the skill you refer to effectively blinds all passive sensor bonuses, sensor skills (except maybe the doton one) and doujutsu due to all the chakra in the area.
The earlier skills are indeed relatively costly, but the speed in which an average member ranks up is enough to where that isn't an issue, as once you rank up it's more affordable. Plus, you must keep in mind that almost all techniques usable by Aburame genin are in fact zero hand signs to use (mass advantage over ocular bloodlines).
You just haven't quite understood the strengths of the clan. Reread it a couple more times. The coccoon skill is far more usable in later ranks with skills and chakra to support distraction. Mushiyose i also usable in conjuction with almost every higher up Aburame skill as well.
Thanks for all your help! Just a few more noob questions about the clan and I'll be out of your hair.
• Hauling around a heavy jar/gourd hive will provide 500 insects regenerated per post per D-rank chakra given. (1 regen per post) Does this mean that the only way to regen bugs is by carrying around a heavy jar/gourd?
If your insects don't die do you still use them up?
Biggest question. I really don't want to be forced to take up special ranks (like Anbu and... whatever the heck Oinin is cause I know I'll never get Kage) because I doubt I'll ever even be able to get thosr ranks lol so is a personal letting me start with more bugs than notmsl possible?
That is for regeneration, however you can call back your insects s long as they haven't been killed (they don't just one off and die), as dictated by Mushiyose (insect gathering).
As to the coun, it depends on the skill. Like bug wall will result in the death of your ibsects (which is where the gourd comes in).
We have cleared a 500 insect bonus, if I recall correctly. Inevitably, you'll still end up short of max.
As for oinin, they are a specialized ninja corps, where ANBU are trained for black ops, they specialize in tracking and removing rogue elements most typically.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:51 pm
Just a few questions regarding the Tamer Class, Inuzuka Clan, and the Neko (custom) Clan:
When you are of the tamer class, your pet(s) must have a profile along with the RPCs.
So... do they get their own classes as well? Inuzuka clan pets can learn only Bukijutsu and Taijutsu, so what happens to the jutsu points they earn as they rank up? A separate profile would mean filling out an entirely separate profile for them, or is there a skeleton to add to your RPCs profile for their pet(s)?
Pawn of Calamity
Feral Genius
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Disturbed Otaku
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:02 am
Okay so I might have lied I have another noob question. I'm making my character and thinking "good God these genjutsu slots are so useless I'm never going to use them" can I just get rid of them and add them to my ninjutsu or eiseijutsu slots without needing a personal to do that?
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:04 pm
It might just be me, but aren't there a lot of bukijutsu and taijutsu techniques that are mislabeled complex when they should be spiritual? Here are a few examples from the bow style Uwame.
Hawk's Eye Rank: D :: Complex Description: The user sends Chakra to one eye, thus sharpening the vision in that eye. Allows for pinpoint accuracy at up to a hundred meters. Lasts for three posts.
Distance Creation Rank: C :: Complex Description: Also known as the “Fleeing Technique,” this is a technique wherein the user sends Chakra coursing through the legs, granting a significant boost to his or her running speed for two [2] posts. After the second post, though, fatigue sets in and the user must catch his or her breath.
Veteran Rank: A :: Complex Description: The user pumps Chakra into his or her muscles, granting an incredible boost in strength that lasts for five of the user's posts. During this time, the user may fire all types of bows without hindrance.
Valkyrie Rank: A :: Complex Description: The user floods his or her legs and arms with Chakra, causing them to glow brightly in the color of the user’s Chakra. This state drastically increases the user’s jump speed and range, as well as the rate at which he or she can fire arrows. Lasts for six [6] posts.
Upturned Eyes Rank: S :: Complex Description: The user floods his or her eyes with Chakra, causing them to take on the hues of the Chakra. While this technique is active, the user can accurately judge distances between him or her and a target. In addition, the user’s clarity of eyesight is increased tenfold. Lasts for four [4] posts.
Extension of the Arrow Rank: S :: Complex Description: By pumping Chakra into up to five arrows over the course of three [3] posts, the user can drastically increase their durability. Additionally, the user can imbue each arrow with elemental Chakra to further augment the destructive capabilities of the arrow.
Extension of the Arrow Rank: S :: Complex Description: By pumping Chakra into up to five arrows over the course of three [3] posts, the user can drastically increase their durability. Additionally, the user can imbue each arrow with elemental Chakra to further augment the destructive capabilities of the arrow.
And these are just in one style. If you notice then none of these techniques require any kind of physical effort from the user. Therefore they should not require stamina. They are simply techniques in which chakra is used to enhance physical characteristics of the user, and therefore should only require chakra and not stamina to use. That's my understanding of it at least. I don't know. I just felt that this was weird and was wondering why all these techniques are complex and not spiritual? Lots of techniques seem to have this problem.
Just a few questions regarding the Tamer Class, Inuzuka Clan, and the Neko (custom) Clan:
When you are of the tamer class, your pet(s) must have a profile along with the RPCs.
So... do they get their own classes as well? Inuzuka clan pets can learn only Bukijutsu and Taijutsu, so what happens to the jutsu points they earn as they rank up? A separate profile would mean filling out an entirely separate profile for them, or is there a skeleton to add to your RPCs profile for their pet(s)?
1) The pets do not get classes. 2) Gains in chakra and stamina are reflected by the rank up of the owner. 3) Your pet still gets eight learn-able skills. which are selected from taijutsu/bukijutsu (when choosing buki, bear in mind the limitations of an animal where claws will be of more use than swords to them) lists. Your ninja pet will not learn whole styles as you might. 4) Most people just list the prevalent information on the profile (I listed my own pet beside my character's info, separated by tastefully placed symbols). If you have any further questions, do let me know.
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:58 pm
Disturbed Otaku
It might just be me, but aren't there a lot of bukijutsu and taijutsu techniques that are mislabeled complex when they should be spiritual? Here are a few examples from the bow style Uwame.
Hawk's Eye Rank: D :: Complex Description: The user sends Chakra to one eye, thus sharpening the vision in that eye. Allows for pinpoint accuracy at up to a hundred meters. Lasts for three posts.
Distance Creation Rank: C :: Complex Description: Also known as the “Fleeing Technique,” this is a technique wherein the user sends Chakra coursing through the legs, granting a significant boost to his or her running speed for two [2] posts. After the second post, though, fatigue sets in and the user must catch his or her breath.
Veteran Rank: A :: Complex Description: The user pumps Chakra into his or her muscles, granting an incredible boost in strength that lasts for five of the user's posts. During this time, the user may fire all types of bows without hindrance.
Valkyrie Rank: A :: Complex Description: The user floods his or her legs and arms with Chakra, causing them to glow brightly in the color of the user’s Chakra. This state drastically increases the user’s jump speed and range, as well as the rate at which he or she can fire arrows. Lasts for six [6] posts.
Upturned Eyes Rank: S :: Complex Description: The user floods his or her eyes with Chakra, causing them to take on the hues of the Chakra. While this technique is active, the user can accurately judge distances between him or her and a target. In addition, the user’s clarity of eyesight is increased tenfold. Lasts for four [4] posts.
Extension of the Arrow Rank: S :: Complex Description: By pumping Chakra into up to five arrows over the course of three [3] posts, the user can drastically increase their durability. Additionally, the user can imbue each arrow with elemental Chakra to further augment the destructive capabilities of the arrow.
Extension of the Arrow Rank: S :: Complex Description: By pumping Chakra into up to five arrows over the course of three [3] posts, the user can drastically increase their durability. Additionally, the user can imbue each arrow with elemental Chakra to further augment the destructive capabilities of the arrow.
And these are just in one style. If you notice then none of these techniques require any kind of physical effort from the user. Therefore they should not require stamina. They are simply techniques in which chakra is used to enhance physical characteristics of the user, and therefore should only require chakra and not stamina to use. That's my understanding of it at least. I don't know. I just felt that this was weird and was wondering why all these techniques are complex and not spiritual? Lots of techniques seem to have this problem.
1) You may not trade genjutsu for things without a specialization/discipline or a personal attribute. 2) Not all styles have been revisited since the addition of the spiritual tag for chakra consumption. This was a tag that was added none too long ago, when the techniques were originally written, complex stood for the consumption of chakra, but the definition had to change with the introduction of the stamina system. Until the list is updated properly, it's simply the way it is played.
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