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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:24 pm
Hold on, whats wrong with the Vigo? Why immediately ignore a possibility?
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:28 pm
As much as it has, I'd rather not push this back farther, lets work with the Consular.
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:33 pm
Remember what I said in the early stages of talking about the RP about you WILL eventually have to make a compromise?
This looks like one such issue, IMO. Just saying to keep your options open. If you're too airtight with what's what, there's little margain for working around any problems that arise.
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:34 pm
stare Hold up there Voh. Lets look at this from a ship design view Consular: Diplomat ship
Vigo: Cargo ship
We would have to rework much aout the Consular to get it cargo worthy, whereas with teh Vigo, we do not have this problem.
Now, lets look at this from the status of pic availability:
Consulor: No maps
Vigo: Maps
We have no images of the interior of the Consular, but for the Vigo we got plenty.
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:35 pm
You have pictures of the Vigo innards? Why didnt you say so?
And the Consular is not only a diplomatic ship. stare
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:40 pm
Hell, the armament used on the Vigo is a clone mount to those put on the Millenium Falcon. I've been updating the info for Cale. Just give me a minute.
Ruusan Kuat Drive Yards AEG-77 Vigo Gunship
Speed: Attack (6 Squares an Action) Maneuverability: Poor (+1) Shielding: 200 (DR 40) Armor: 290 (DR 40) Hyperdrive: 1.5x Life Support: Yes (Capable of comfortably accommodating a hundred beings) Cargo Capacity: 60,000 mT Weaponry: 6 Quad Type-6 Laser Cannon Turrets (Almost identical to the turrets on the Millennium Falcon), 2 Type-9 Laser Cannons
Kuat Drive Yards is not known for her Corvette-class production ships, but in the years shortly before the Galactic Civil War broke out she did take a number of stabs at the class. One design team would produce two of the more successful products for the company in that design class, the AEG-77 Vigo and the KBD-1 Broadside.
The AEG-77 is a fast ship, slightly edging out the CR90 in sheer speed. Its smaller size limits its cargo capacity to a mere 60,000 Tones. However the ship is rugged despite her size, and sports large modular docking ports on her extended spars, enabling her to latch onto as many as four Class-A Cargo containers, pushing her actual cargo capacity to a whopping 360,000 Tons, however the attachment of said containers severely limits the ships maximum speed, and greatly constricts the firing arch of the guns. Most pilots attempt to avoid using the containers whenever possible due to those drawbacks.
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:43 pm
because you immediately began pushing for the Consular without letting me speak for the Vigo. Because its what you wanted. Now then, Vigo Pics: http://www.freewebs.com/spaceguy5/Here.htm http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?&topic_id=498672 http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?start=45&topic_id=498672
Here's two source pages for the Vigo: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/AEG-77_Vigo http://swg.wikia.com/wiki/Blacksun_AEG-77_Vigo_Gunship
And if you need further resources, I can also dig up the two youtube videos I had.
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:47 pm
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:49 pm
stellarmagic Hell, the armament used on the Vigo is a clone mount to those put on the Millenium Falcon. I've been updating the info for Cale. Just give me a minute. Ruusan Kuat Drive Yards AEG-77 Vigo Gunship Speed: Attack (6 Squares an Action) Maneuverability: Poor (+1) Shielding: 200 (DR 40) Armor: 290 (DR 40) Hyperdrive: 1.5x Life Support: Yes (Capable of comfortably accommodating a hundred beings) Cargo Capacity: 60,000 mT Weaponry: 6 Quad Type-6 Laser Cannon Turrets (Almost identical to the turrets on the Millennium Falcon), 2 Type-9 Laser Cannons Kuat Drive Yards is not known for her Corvette-class production ships, but in the years shortly before the Galactic Civil War broke out she did take a number of stabs at the class. One design team would produce two of the more successful products for the company in that design class, the AEG-77 Vigo and the KBD-1 Broadside.
The AEG-77 is a fast ship, slightly edging out the CR90 in sheer speed. Its smaller size limits its cargo capacity to a mere 60,000 Tones. However the ship is rugged despite her size, and sports large modular docking ports on her extended spars, enabling her to latch onto as many as four Class-A Cargo containers, pushing her actual cargo capacity to a whopping 360,000 Tons, however the attachment of said containers severely limits the ships maximum speed, and greatly constricts the firing arch of the guns. Most pilots attempt to avoid using the containers whenever possible due to those drawbacks.Gonna have to update those to Saga edition stats...and 60,000 tons seems a bit big....
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:50 pm
Approxamately 110m.
The docking ports are just a guess on my part, there has to be a good reason to have those four forward spars.
Of course, people don't realize that a YT-1300 can pickup and drag a Class-A Cargo Container. But they can't actually access the interior of the container, same thing is true here. Basically, if the contract gives you a container you just drag it to the destination.
Smaller hold then an Action IV by about 15,000 tons. The Action IV is only 100 meters long.
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:53 pm
stellarmagic Approxamately 110m. The docking ports are just a guess on my part, there has to be a good reason to have those four forward spars. Of course, people don't realize that a YT-1300 can pickup and drag a Class-A Cargo Container. But they can't actually access the interior of the container, same thing is true here. Basically, if the contract gives you a container you just drag it to the destination. Smaller hold then an Action IV by about 15,000 tons. The Action IV is only 75 meters long. No, its 100m long and holds 90,000mT's. You need to get the updated Saga Edition Ships of the Galaxy book, Stellar. And I agree with you about the spars.
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:56 pm
I also assumed a capacity of 75,000 mTs per Class-A Container, but I can't seem to find reliable data on that anywhere.
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:56 pm
I don't like it. I just don't like it. confused
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:58 pm
It's more fitting for a Mando captain, thats for sure. Plus it makes him a real competitor to me. I've got to hang a pair of Class-As from the underbelly of my BFF-1 to stay on top of him. Not something I like doing, but necessary for those real big contracts.
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:59 pm
Des Voh I don't like it. I just don't like it. confused Why not? We actually have room now to put in a small Fighter hangar. Hell, most of the Bebop wasnt even explored by the crew. They just stayed in the stern crew section since most of the ship was refrigeration units and cargo holds.
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