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*sigh* All the praise for Disney, what about Hayao Miyazaki? He's done amazing things with animation as well, and has kept to his standard of cell-drawn movies when many people rely more on CGI. Plus, he mostly draws his stories from his mind, and not just from old fairytales with twists on them. Like making Hercules more palatable for parents to take their kids to, hiding from the young ones that in fact Hercules was a b*****d son, one of many many that Zeus, the lech, had with mortal women. And his bad relationship with Hera, and Hera's bitter jealousy of the mortal women and the many ways she plotted to kill her husband's byblows. That's one of the more interesting things of Greek myths - the gods had just as bad and rotten of a personality as a human, only they had god powers to do what they wanted to whomever they wanted, and they were petty and loved revenge, and wasn't above smiting humans when bored or irritated.

I like the movie Hercules better then the actual myth though, probably because I adore Hades in there, and Pain and Panic are fun. The comedic timing is also key in awesomeness. Yes Disney makes child friendly films (though there are innuendo's EVERYWHERE! Flitter bugged?? Lady and the Tramp? Seriously lol).

And it's not Disney cartoons, it's Disney ANIMATION. Cartoons was actually derived from those little one panel comics that were in news papers long before animation, why people transfered the word over is beyond me.

And I love Miyuzaki as well. He is amazing, and I have a female Miyuzaki who is equally as awesome at my school (yes I'm aware that a vast majority of his staff is female). I'm not doubting that, we were just having an awesome conversation about Disney Villains.

and with that, my own 2 cents on the villains.

*BIG GASP*

Disney villains love torturing their victims, so Ursula gave Ariel false hope, cause she knew that was the only way she could get Ariel to sign, as she was reluctant. That's the thing with Disney villains, in their mind, they plan to give false hope (have a bite of a super tasty apple) but intend for it to backfire horribly on the hero/victim so that the villain can enjoy further suffering.

An awesome example of this is Hades watching Hercules suffer his loss of strength, and then to see that Meg was working for him the whole time. Unfortunately, he didn't plan for Meg to go get herself killed.

backfires.

SO both of you are right in a way. heart

*eye Twitch* Jov mad You neeeeeed to see more of his films evil
Spirited away, Castle in the sky, Howell's Moving Castle, All those, are Great

Ah yes, Disney does like to hide certain things from the young eyes, doesn't it? I was watching a neighbor's girl back in December with one of our snowstorms, and she wanted to watch Pocahantas. I had to bite my lip to tell her that in reality, Pocahantas had recently hit puberty when the English came, since she was baptized at age 11, if I recall correctly, and the John Smith she married was actually short, ugly and red headed, and she died of measles or small pox (both nasty diseases) without ever seeing her homeland again after going to England. (Note to self: avoid England) And just how did Pocahantas' deer skin bodice stay up by itself?? Disney just loves to give all heroines the body proportions of Barbie...

And speaking of love of Miyazaki films, I showed my mom Castle in the Sky, Spirited Away, and Nausicaa of the Valley of the Winds. All of which she enjoyed. Now, if I could just persuade her to watch Pom Pocco and catch her expression on camera when she discovers just what those raccoons use to shape shift.... xd

i liked the first movie with the cat and violin dude... but the second one was kinda feh.... thats funny that mom watched an anime though.

Sadly, I havnt seen those ones T-T But I did see Pom Poko eek

... why'd you have to bring your balls into it....