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"Breakdown be a dear and squish those humans, there getting on my nervs and i dont feel like getting my paint messy" Knock Out said to the bigger Mech "Ill deal with our little friends here. " He said indecating Optimus. He held himself high and confadet looking at the other prime "now we have something you want, but you have nothing we want, how could we fix this" He said. "Rodimus wont last long, and you dont even have the means to sastane him, ware as the Nemisis is right outside." He wanted Rodimus thought not for the reasions that Optimus might think.
"you will jest kill him on your war ship, or mess with his head or try to get information out of him" Optimus knew how these cons worked, and that Knock out may be talking big right now but Megatron said who lived and died in the long run. But he was right in a way, Rodimus might not suvrive longer. though he also knew Knock Out has saved Rodimus before. "There is nothing you could want for helping him" he wanted to have something.
Knock Out liked holding the cards, "Well...I do like the thought of you Autobots oweing me a favor" something he could use when ever he needed it. "something i can call in when ever i need it." He loved having those and knowing that he had someone in the palm of his hand.
Optimus didnt want to have to be even more in dept to this con but he didnt look like he had a chouse." Fine Knock Out...now help him"
Knock Out smirked getting what he wanted "Well I dont know if i can...jest by looking at him even if i put him on the most advince medicen he has been under to much stress both mently and plycley, so it might not do anything" he said seeing that Optimus was about to attack "BUT....there might be a way....you wount like it though" He could see some of the other Autobots showing up now, the little yellow one and the ninjas. The femmie as well. "I could see if dark engergon will save him"

"No you dont Breakdown" Knock Out said Really sometimes he wondered if Breakdown ever even lissened. 'sorry about this rodi, but eather way i will end up winning' he thought. on one hand Rodimus would go nuts and take care of the Autobots for them, or he would be able to retane his mind and live, no madder what he would win.
"Optimus what ever hes planing it can not be good if it invalues that" Prowl said not knowing the full story ether but knock out with Rodimus and saying something about dark engergon cant be good. But there was something deffert to, He could sence that Jazz felt it from Rodimus to, since the other bot had known him, met him a few time for breefings and such, it felt like Rodimus.
Optimus though knew he needed to make the choise now, Risk losing Rodimus for good, or give him a little of a chance, even if it ment that he would be exposed to dark engergon. Rodimus did deserve to live, he didnt think of anyone that deserved it more, and it might even help with his cosmic rust. "....fine Knock Out"
The con smirked "Breakdown, have a veacon bring me some of the dark engergon" he told Breakdown "And dont give me the i dont want to go near it stuff."

Knock Out on some level didnt want to see the spider here, but if she was on a job then he couldent really do much. "Now my dear, those were...less than ideal subjests you know that" he said though it was still a possabulty "As for you.." he looked over at Chromia "I wouldent be one to talk about anyone being 'stupid' seeing that thing that likes to fallow you around might as well be noting but a drone" He smirked seeing Ironhide getting mad at that "you have him trained very well though i will say that But if youll excisuse me" he said holding the shard over the red prime "He might get a little...violent"
He putshed the dark ingergon into the red Prime, he didnt know what it would do or how long it would take but the glow of the tanted engergon showed that it was able to flow, "youll understand us not staying around for the show" that was something he didnt want at all.
Prowl knew that this was not going to be good, He didnt have much say though, He knew that Optimus was thinking about his friend and that he jest wanted to give his friend the best chance. He hated to say he would do the same for Bumblebee. But that still ment he got ready for a fight.

Knock Out really did hope that Rodimus would be able to handle what he did, But he wasent about show that he was worried, after all they were on seprit sides and he needed to show he didnt care what happened to any Autobot. "Now we jest sit back and watch the fireworks" he said with his smirk on his face. "Arachined i sure youve been...updated on the current situation" he assumed she would have been one way or another.
"you look unusaly happy Breakdown, you had a good day im guessing" It wasent every day he got to get revenge on the humans that tore out his Optic.
Ironhide grabbed the red prime, trying to restrain him. This wasent the best idea, he more than anyone wanted to keep Rodimus alive but there had to have been a better way. "sorry about this boss" he said trying to hold him back, though the next thing he knew he seemed to have been thrown and ended up on his back. good thing he was Ironed up.
The last thing any of them wanted to do was to hurt Rodimus, now Optimus left them no choise, so much for being able to make the right choises. It seems he cant think straght when someone he cares about is on the line. He really needed to work on this but now he jest had to make sure everyone lived threw this.
"I head to make things worse Optimus....But is his bow sapost to do that" Prowl stated, they should have taken that away since last he checked the arrows wernt glowing purple.
"No its not. " Optimus daid doging the Arrows that could split apart "Try to get his bow away"

"Really now. that is intersting" Knock Out said, another bot thats not an Autobot, but if he wasent on there side then he really could care less. This was entertaning enought "I think the red Prime dose a better job of throwing the Iron oue around than you do Breakdown" this was intertaning, and he would be lieing if he said he wasent a little turned on. Atleast later Breakdown and him could have a lot of fun. After the show was over ofcorse.
Prowl had to move constenly to miss the arrows, Though he was also trying to keep them from hitting others as well. Someone needed to destract him ebough to get the chance to get hold of Rodimus. He looked over at Jazz who seemed to know exactly what the other ninja was thinking. "Yo Rodi, Lets see if your still as fast as your ame is good" he said twurling his nunchucks and charging at the Red Prime.
Optimus knocked arrows away, watching them melt the ground he had to make sure those never hit anyone. Though he saw the opening that Jazz was giving them. "Everyone move on Rodimus now" They all needed to see if they could hold him down. If they all could then they might be able to eather kill him or see if they could get threw to him. though Optimus thought the later was impossabul.
Ironhide didnt need to be told again. He charged Rodimus doing what he could to knock him to the ground.

Knock Out would keep that in mind "Well then, since you seem to know this bot so well my dear Arached then you can be the one to keep tabs on him" He said. He wasent going to do it himself and he wasent going to have Breakdown do it. She was heardly ever around anyway so this would be right up her ally. Though one little comment seems to have gatten his breakdown all upset "Dont have that look Breakdown, your still the best buffer iv ever had" That was sure to make anyone feel better, well it would make him feel better.
Optimus didnt like the thought of doing this, it did seem that killing Rodimus was now needed, But now with his hand bussie they could get the Bow atleast. While the Red prime was bussie with Chromis and Ironhise he charged and used his ax to knock the bow away. Atleast then they didnt have to worrie about that. But having something to restrain him would be good right now.
Jazz grabbed the bow once it was knocked away, to keep it away from the red Prime, that way they had somewhat of a chance. Though they still needed to find a way to restrain Rodimus, They could use what was there since it was a MECH fachilty but they didnt want to use anything there, nothing MECH uses could be trusted.

"ex boyfriend " Knock Out said with a smirk. There was only a fe Bots that he has seen the Femmie wanting to scrap. He looked down at the fight seeing that now they were reduiced to sitting on Rodimus. "well im bored. Breakdown lets go have some fun while your still in a good mood" He would rather have Breakdown intersted in what they do rather than jest seem bored with it.

Ironhide didnt need to be told twice. Though the acctual sitting was easer said than done. and even when he was able to get on top of the Prime he still had a heard time keeping him down "I could use some help here" he said, then was joined by the two ninja bots, optimus Bumblebee and Chromia.
This was not the best looking situation "....ill be honest i didnt think this would be able to hold him" Jazz said. He didnt know how long this would hold but it worked for the time being. though he felt bad about all but crushing Rodimus.