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 Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:47 pm
wakusei Saverio C. wakusei That a contest has no place next to a debate was never even what we're supposed to be discussing so what does that matter anyway...? 
So ok then if it has no place next to it should not be grouped with it!
Like in the main forum, we have IDD threads like this grouped with silly discussions.
Games are the silly discussions of the sub forum, Contest are the IDD of it. That is why they should be in the same place
I think you missed my point? If a contest and debate are the same, or if they are different...both don't matter because that's not what this thread is supposed to be discussing.
IDD threads used to be separated, but that changed because they were so overlooked. Contests should be separate from games for the same reason...they'll be overlooked in the subforum. People go there looking for thread games, not contests.
Then remove the subforum scince they are so overlooked. The problem is you are not equally enforcing the rules. Either the games forum is useless, and promptly removed, or the contest go there!
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:48 pm
Saverio C. If the public whats to make Crack legal should it be? The answer is no, the public is not the most attentive nor should they be intrusted with management.
Practice what you preach should work both ways then, eh?
You = Part of the public
Me = Management
So by your statement, no matter what you say, I'm free to do what I want because I actually am management and you're not to be trusted with it...?
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:49 pm
Saverio C.
The point I am making is that the rules apply to all threads regardless of anything. If the Subforum is pointless then remove it. Treat all threads equally!
And wait for the angry mob of members to get on our asses about spam and clutter and then we make the subforums all over again.
It's how they were made in the first place. To make the members happy.
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:49 pm
Sanzoskitsune *sigh* You know... this is getting ridiculous. Us mods made these events for you guys to enjoy, and lets face it these are not like the games in the subforum that will be there for a while, these are going to be gone in a week and our attempt was to get as many people participating as possible. However, I tend to agree with aretoo, if its gonna cause this much trouble we may as well not do them at all. Doesn't change the fact they're in the wrong place. Ad populum isn't a good way to go either, Jaft. Nobody is objecting to the games existing so just drop the position that because they're offensive then we should do away with them. All I'm demanding is equal respect of the rules rather than breaking them "for the public good" Rules are rules and if the people who make the rules can break them with no consequence then they're absolutely useless other than to keep us lesser people in line while the elite do what they want.
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:49 pm
wakusei Saverio C. If the public whats to make Crack legal should it be? The answer is no, the public is not the most attentive nor should they be intrusted with management.
Practice what you preach should work both ways then, eh?
You = Part of the public
Me = Management
So by your statement, no matter what you say, I'm free to do what I want because I actually am management and you're not to be trusted with it...?
You made one error, we are both bound by the rules. I am not telling you what to do the rules you enforce are. Thus you are not listing to me but your own damn book.
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:51 pm
Hey Guyz. Let's make advertising legal because it's popular. Or how about let's hold up a vote to see if Omnileech should be banned from the guild for being critical of it.
The people should decide! Right?
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:51 pm
wakusei Saverio C.
The point I am making is that the rules apply to all threads regardless of anything. If the Subforum is pointless then remove it. Treat all threads equally!
And wait for the angry mob of members to get on our asses about spam and clutter and then we make the subforums all over again.
It's how they were made in the first place. To make the members happy.
Then use it! Don't put it there to rot!
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:52 pm
Saverio C.
Then remove the subforum scince they are so overlooked. The problem is you are not equally enforcing the rules. Either the games forum is useless, and promptly removed, or the contest go there!
But I don't think thread games and contests are the same! So I AM abiding by the rules.
The game forum is not ignored because it's called Games, thus people go there for Games. People do not go there for contests because it's not called Contests, so contests there would be overlooked.
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:55 pm
wakusei Saverio C.
Then remove the subforum scince they are so overlooked. The problem is you are not equally enforcing the rules. Either the games forum is useless, and promptly removed, or the contest go there!
But I don't think thread games and contests are the same! So I AM abiding by the rules.
The game forum is not ignored because it's called Games, thus people go there for Games. People do not go there for contests because it's not called Contests, so contests there would be overlooked.
Contest do not belong with the Discussions, they belong in the games! We already pointed out that they should be IDD of the games sub-forum. If contest belong in the main forum non-word games do to!
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:55 pm
Omnileech Hey Guyz. Let's make advertising legal because it's popular. Or how about let's hold up a vote to see if Omnileech should be banned from the guild for being critical of it. The people should decide! Right?
If enough people rallied for it, I don't see why a vote couldn't take place.
You rallied for this, hence the vote.
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:56 pm
Although... they're not really even in with the discussions; guild events have always been up in the "stickies" at the top of the page, and don't mingle with the discussion threads.
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:57 pm
wakusei Omnileech Hey Guyz. Let's make advertising legal because it's popular. Or how about let's hold up a vote to see if Omnileech should be banned from the guild for being critical of it. The people should decide! Right?
If enough people rallied for it, I don't see why a vote couldn't take place.
You rallied for this, hence the vote.
The people's will dose not circumnavigate the rules!
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Jafthasleftthebuilding Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:57 pm
(Lol, this took me awhile. Some of it inspired by Sav.) I'm thinking we create a set of rules describing and defining a contest, plug them in the RP/Game sub forum, and change the name to RP/Game/Contest. This way we can clearly state where contests belong and then move them all there. However, guild events are guild events. It isn't a matter of following rules, or that us mods just want to go around breaking them. Who made the rules in the first place? Couldn't we just make a rule where guild events are supposed to be placed in the main page and end this whole debate completely? Or maybe make a whole bunch of rules to abuse our power completely? Guild events are what they are. They're for you. Shouldn't they be on the main page for that reason, for easy access and participation. Guild events don't occur frequently and are hosted and funded by the mods themselves with some donations on occasion from the standard guild members. They should be on the main page for everyone to see, otherwise people could miss out on the events and that wouldn't be fair to them. Not everyone visits the sub forums all the time. I hardly ever go there. Omnileech, seriously, what do classes have to do with Gaia? This is Gaia. We come here to play and have fun. That's what these guild events are for. I don't sign on a moderator to go, "I'm the elite and now you all will listen to me!!" I don't have a hunger for power. Why exactly do you want what you want? Is giving any guild event more exposure wrong? I'm not understanding. egg
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:59 pm
Saverio C.
Contest do not belong with the Discussions, they belong in the games! We already pointed out that they should be IDD of the games sub-forum. If contest belong in the main forum non-word games do to!
And I already pointed out that they'd be ignored there because people won't think contests are in with the Games Subforum (but that is assumption on my part...a poll can decide, eh?). Much in the way IDD threads had to be regrouped with the main forum because no one went to the IDD Subforum. Not to mention both those IDD thread decisions were decided by poll.
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:00 pm
The announcement should link to the event not be it. Put the contest in the Contest area and then link to it in the Announcements. This way no one get the misconception that Contest belong in the main forum.
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