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Rube Garret

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:37 pm


Anya- The problems surfacing are common for every rp group that hangs around long enough. Anytime you get people together for an extended amount of time, even for a game, these sort of problems will happen- it just goes with the territory. The important thing now is to make certain there are clear rules and consequences for OOC behavior (and that new rules can be created/old rules can be altered as needed).

You've done an amazing job on the story concept and artwork, as I'm sure you know- now all that's left is to create a rules system for the players themselves to abide by. heart
PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:01 pm


Okay after reading everything, at this point....I'm just I don't know...

I'd like to say first off I'm sorry I ever did one trip....and I'm sorry I brought up the past....and I'm sorry I'm have no back bone to just teel Neith to leave me alone.

Instead....this all happen....I never meant for any of this to happen...dear lord I never did....

Yes I do take the blame.....but only because I should have just told neith to stop it in the first place.....now everyone is hurt....

And Yes Drac is right...I am thinking of leaving...as i had told her....there only a thin thread holding me right now....I've lost faith in everything....

Neith I'm sorry if I ever pissed you off, I'm sorry for irgoning you, I never tried too....I know that this won't fix everything, but maybe me coming out in the open and saying this might be a step toward making everything better....

As for me....I don't know...I feel like I shouldn't own any of my kids at this point, I've caused alot of damage.....and well until then....I guess I should just back away from it all and hope that everything can be fix....

This will be my last post here or anywhere else for a long time......

Again I am sorry......

Krista DarkAngel Silme


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:29 pm


After reading back through the last few posts I have an idea that I hope will help this thread. I will be providing the pw for my Fae_Journalist account to eht sheriffs and co-owners of the thread for a time. feel free to PM 1 time to the account listing your suggestions in a clear manner for a resolution to this conflict.

In the end there's no one person to blame. Playing the 'what if' game will only drive you mad, not give you answers.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:25 pm


Drac also forgot to add that I said sorry to Krista a week ago, and that I do think I overreacted, and that I was in the wrong. x_x And that my feelings about it haven't changed, I still think I acted stupidly.

But the edit thing... it was just an attempt to edit out a different post that would have been taken badly by Krista. I posted something, realized it would be taken badly after our argument, and tried to edit it in a way so that if anyone had seen the original one, they'd see that and be like '...oh, I see.'
That was the idea, anyway. I didn't think about how it'd be taken on it's own. o__o


But I am sorry about how I acted. And Krista, even though I've said this to you a few times, I'm still sorry, I still think I overreacted, that I was in the wrong and I do think Drac is beautiful.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:40 pm


I'm just reaffirming that she also said this in an IM to me earlier.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:51 am


Wow, gee, Yummei is right, this is World war III O_o when it shouldn't be at all. Anya, this is NOT your fault, this is no one's fault... as someone pointed out, there are fights even in the most bonded famillies, people get over them;

WE are making a MOUNTAIN out of ANTHILL.

That's what i think at any rate x_x ... Again, I agree with Youko, this thread may have been a bad idea... letting people handle someone else's problems is not a good choice.

I personally think this was all a huge missunderstanding e_e and believe me, I know about missunderstandings. one of them got me to losse one of my precious RP pets, because people decided to handle my problem and someone else's instead of letting us figure them out (which we actually did when we talked the next day. BUT it was too late) I just hope the same thing that happened to me doesn't happen here....

I'd hate to losse bOTH Krista and Neith over such a silly thing... ;_;''

... then again, it could just be me that thinks this way. I'm not siding with anyone here e_e I think both parties are at fault, in some ways, and both aprties have good points to be angry over... but meh

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Krista DarkAngel Silme

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:22 am


Okay This is important so I do hope everyone read this.....and I hope this help put an end to what has been going on....

Neith and I for the first time in months have finally talked. No anger was involved, she let me speak my mind, and then I let her speak hers. We have both come to the conclusion as DFA has stated we were both in the wrong.

I understand that this had carried on longer then it should have, and that because I blocked her and didn't even give her the chance to speak me. If I had this and everything else might have never happened.

Neith understand that what she did was wrong...and with the advice I have given her and with me helping her, she is gonna try and not lose her temper with anyone...its gonna be a long process, but please be patient with her.

I know this sound strange coming from me, but if I can forgive her for what she has done to me, I hope everyone else can, and that we are able to make Fa'e the happy place that it once was.

We're all human we all make mistake, I've have owned up to mine and now please let her own up to hers and try to forgive her so we can move on and forget this whole mess happened.

Thank you
Krista
PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:42 am


THat's good to read... thank god x.x *hugs Krista* I can personally forgive her (heck, she's done nothing to me, so there's nothing to forgive). <3 thnak god this didn't end bad e_e ... people should be able to continue on and have no sour feeling sif YOU don't have them.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:25 am


Just be aware that I have not read everything in this thread. I am posting reguarding the last few pages which I did go back and read.

Neith needs to talk with each person that she has hurt. And work that out with them. It's nice that Neith and Krista have worked out some of thier problems and are working on any animosity between them. But Neith also needs to do that with Anya, Lenore, myself, to name a few. I think she is trying. As I have been talking with her. I just hope that Neith does the same with everyone else too.

I hope that everyone can give her another chance to at least try to make things right. But that is each persons personal choice and I don't know each and every infraction that has happened. And for some people it might be best that they leave it all alone and move on. No matter what each person needs to do for themselfs. I do hope that everyone finds a way to move beyond this and be happy. I just hope everyone can find a way to be happy.

Again, I am very glad that Neith and Krista are working things out. I hope that this can be the begining of repairing many friendships and trust between all of us.

No hate. Only love. ~Gen~ / Fe
PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:08 am


Well, things are getting encouraging.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:03 pm


Yeah. We'll make it through this.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 5:11 pm


I feel like calling for a group hug or something. XD;

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:10 pm


Sosiqui
I feel like calling for a group hug or something. XD;


::Hugs::! xD;

Also, I agree with Arri, if anyone has had any problems with me... Then feel free to PM me and let me know now. ::Shrugs::
PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:12 am


Okay, let me start off: I don't even have the ability to go for the anonymous "The_Voice" because, well, apparently I'm not supposed to be included in this? I'd like to say a few things anyway, even if I'm not particularly welcome, because I'm still a fa'e owner, and I know some of you, and I've had stuff with Neith in the past.

Firstly, Neith: now I see why you were so touchy in the GMFC when I rolled through recently. I had no idea this was going on. I'd like you to know that I have never once posted as "The_Voice" and had nothing to do with any of the stuff going on here because, hey, I wasn't invited to the party, yeah? I only just read all of it today.

But on the subject of my ignoring you, I'll address that very directly. Yes, I ignore you. I've never really understood your behavior in my shop all those months ago, and while I'm generally willing to let things slide by, I recognized that you were the kind of person I would rather not deal with, so my solution has been to simply not deal with you. I'm sorry if this offends you, I certainly don't do it out of malice. But I think it's just easier on both of us if we don't really interact. I'd hate to have a repeat instance of your behavior to me in the past.

Still, I'd like you to know I don't ignore you out of any sort of malice or dislike, honest. It just seems to me that ignoring you is the best way to avoid any upsetting situations. I have a hard enough time with stuff without adding to my burdens.

On the bipolar issue: I've been told by several psychologists/psychiatrists/etc. that I'm mentlly unstable, that I should be medicated, blah blah blah. And then told by an equal number that I shouldn't be medicated. None of them can agree on a diagnosis. I've had labels like "ADD" and "bipolar" and "scizophrenic" and "borderline" and "severely depressed" shoved at me and I came to one simple conclusion:

I am not crazy. Well, okay, I am, BUT! The whole field of psychology is bunk. It's just another way for people to hide behind a label and cry that they deserve special treatment because they have this disorder or that disorder (and if you can name it, chances are someone's told me I've got it) and you should treat them special because of it.

Yet from my experience, everyone experiences a little bit of all those disorders at one point or another. The reason we think it's all so crazy is because most people won't talk about it. We all feel depressed sometimes, we all have manic moments, and I think maybe, just maybe, that sometimes other people must get paranoid about stuff the way I do. In other words, we are all suffering from the same disorder, known as "LIVING." It's not easy to do this living thing! We're humans, plagued by doubts and insecurities, beset by worries and fears.

The only thing we can do is decide how much those fears and worries control our lives. You seem to be at a point where I was not to long ago, grabbing for the label and suddenly feeling "hey, everything's okay! I've got an explanation!" only the label doesn't really change anything, and the doctors might tell you to take drugs because of it. And I'm afraid that the narcissism the doctor's "diagnosed" me with prevents me from believing there is any sort of problem with me that I can't deal with through my own power. Ergo, I absolutely refuse to take any drugs or listen to any psychologist who advises me to take such actions.

This is not to say that I don't believe there aren't some folk out there with some VERY, VERY serious problems who need and deserve psychiatric help. It's just that most of us just need to learn how to deal with life, especially at your age.

Unless, of course, it turns out you are older than me. O_o But I thought I heard you were younger by a few years? Oh well, age doesn't matter. We all have troubling times in our life when the world seems too much and too hard and people hate us.

Of course, it might just be you and me, Neith. But you come sit over here and we can talk about how everyone who claims not to have our problems is a liar and a coward. Of course, maybe our lives are only more difficult at this point because our futures are so much greater? All those truly great people had terribly interesting lives, after all. Like Hemingway and ... someone ... I just woke up. Leave me alone! xd

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When RikProwley, furthermore referred to simply as Em, came along, I was upset she didn't want to partake in our Fa'e community. I couldn't imagine why and for some reason took it personally. Being naive, I complained to a friend of mine who is also coincidentally one of Em's friends and she asked me why I was so upset... rather, "Is it just because she doesn't want to be part of your clique?" Amazing, isn't it? Her first page was even offensive and did anyone have a trial about taking away her Fa'e? No. Now I admire her; she wasn't afraid of what people would think. I was. I was walking on eggshells afraid to upset someone.


Not wanting to be in the clique? I would like to point something out: I was never invited. I was honestly surprised to hear there were AIM chats and things going on. I've been told that it's because people didn't want me to win the auction, they wanted Orasteele and Britain to win. I've been told it's because I didn't want people posting gifts in my diary. WTF?? Can't I have one lovely, continuous story in my diary? I don't like going through other people's diaries and here I am reading a serious RP and suddenly, "HEERE L00K! I bught u a presnt!!!1" with a picture of some pixelated item of food. I dislike that crap. So if asking that it just not be posted directly in the diary was such a crime, then fine! Screw the clique!

And I've been told it's because Neith went around telling people not to RP with me.

I bid in the auction for one reason and one reason only. I love Anya's art, and I love Zev. I would think that love of Anya's art and love of our own fa'e would be something we could all unify behind but apparently not. Of course, there was another reason I bid in the auction... I admired several of the guardians immensely and wanted to roleplay with them and be in their group.

But you know what? Ya shut me out. I don't really know why anyone did it, but that's what happened and them's the breaks.

But that's okay. I understand, apparently more than everyone else here, that on the Internet we can choose who we want to interact with. If you don't want to interact with me, that's fine! I won't force you to! Which brings me to a couple of points.

If y'all have a problem with Neith, then seriously, just ignore her. It's so trying to have to deal with somebody and then think the problem is resolved only it comes back two weeks later because nothing changes. If you continue to deal with that person, the problems will just come back, and create more bad feelings until everyone is upset, and then THIS happens.

Neith, don't take it so hard. These are just a bunch of people who, as much as it seems they've got it together and they dislike you, are hiding behind the Internet and dislike themselves even more. I know it's hard to not take it personally and deal with it -- believe me do I know, because as much as you get shut out, I get shut out, too -- but just grab ahold of yourself and move on. What's happened has happened and you can't change it, but you can change the future. Please don't hide behind some label just because you fit it. Believe me, most people can say yes to those survey things and fall under the definition and that's EXACTLY what the psychologists and -drug companies- want, becuse it means more money in their pockets. (Ha ha, can you tell someone's really ticked off at that whole industry?) But in any event, all these supposedly-great people spend how many hours of their life on this forum?? Y'know what, Neith? They're all losers! (And yes, I suppose this means we are too, but what the hell!) They're not worth your time and your worry! They're no better than you or I are, they just act that way.

Annnnnd I think I'm done. *bows and exits*

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:54 am


Rik, you have to understand, i've never seen you at all at the Fa'e HQ, your diary says not to post any gifts, and your shop says not to PM you.

How could we ever 'include' you into our 'clique' when you haven't even tried?
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