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 Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:20 pm
Lady Rai system malfunction InternalHardDrive Ahhah...I'm all cold and shaky inside, and my arm feels like ice. ... I'M NOT HAVING A BREAKDOWN, TOO, I SWEAR. D: *curls up*  Is everyone catching some sort of rare stress-related internet disease? gonk
-puts on a bio-suit and aviods contact with everyone-
-shakes and freezes- I'm only this way because I have problems and hate to wear socks. Oh, and I'm feeling kind of sick. Being mad isn't helping my cause, either....
Poor IHD.Maybe Gaia's got some thing that's emmited when you look at this guild, and we're all getting sick. xDD Let's all just hope we all don't just collapse while staring at the screen. *laughs*(.hack! xD and please do notice the sarcasm =P))
But I don't feel well either. D: I wasn't feeling to well last night, and it might be because I spend to much time in my cold room sitting at the computer. >__< and This blanket is not helping with the coldness. I reeeally need another heat vent in here or something, I'm constantly cold in my room. But I never get sick. It's reeeallly weird. *hopes that she doesn't feel this bad tomorow* I shall not ruin my perfect school attendance! xD (And I'm serious about that, I haven't missed a single day of school since the begining of middle school, that's 4 years straight and couniting. xD)
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:22 pm
Lady Rai Yes, because making people feel like crap that weren't even here helps out ever so much. neutral
Sadly enough, Dukes, your mission failed. I don't feel like s**t because of what you posted. If you are mad at all of us who WEREN'T there, who DIDN'T post, you can be. I read Meru and Monkeys thread bashing Mori. I thought it was totally unfair that they had done that just because they were mad. I must have missed the rest of it, because I hate between game drama.
I chose not to post because I thought it would be a bad idea, as I never seem to make any situation better. By posting this, I've probably made whatever the hell happened worse. But, like you, I don't care anymore. I've decided that it doesn't matter. So, here we go with Rai's super-rantish post:
Making people feel bad about something they've already said solves nothing. Sure, it makes everyone want to apologize, but that rarely helps. I'm also scared for Nymphie and Merus well being. But I'm not going to make an a** out of everyone. It's these kinds of things that make people want to leave. It's threads that re-open old wounds that make people want to leave. What you are doing here, making everyone feel like crap for not defending Nymphie and Meru, is considered re-opening old wounds.
As Poptart demonstrated, this thread is making her want to leave. That's not the attitude we should take with people. Even if you think that saying "It's just a game" doesn't help, it might. YOU NEVER KNOW. Because guess what? It is just a game. Gaia Community Sniper GAME. Says so in the title.
I'm sorry that people made Meru and Nymphie had panic/asthma attacks. I'm sorry that I was busy PMing people and having fun in an RP to come here and defend them. I'm sorry that you feel you must make everyone feel bad. I'm sorry that Zae is dissapointed in us. I'm sorry that everyone does the things they do. D<
I may have sounded mean, but I'm tired of this guild. >.<  This wasn't a brief thing. This was a culmination of the past few months' actions towards the VCs. So yeah, mostly everyone had a chance to speak up and didn't.
Tell me Rai, do you think that because they are VCs they deserved special anger because they made that topic? If a normal user made that topic I don't think they would have recieved anywhere near the same shitty treatment.
Making them feel bad solves nothing? If that's true my hopes for the human race are dead. If they feel bad about something they have done, I am willing to bet that the next time they come head to head with such a situation perhaps they'll handle it differently. If not, I think we'll all kill each other off within twenty years. Reopening old wounds you say... from last night... yeah, I guess in the two hours between the drama and my post the wounds would scab over.
Yeah, we have a game here. But most importantly, we are a COMMUNITY. Thus the Gaia COMMUNITY Sniper Game.'
I am sorry you don't see why I had to make this, others do. 
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:23 pm
[Glitter.Poptart] Dukes [Glitter.Poptart] Actaully. No one really cares about me since I'm new. I'm just going to leave. Bye. Don't do that. Why not? I have no idea what is going on. The more I read the more I don't understand what happened. Who did that to them? Seriously? I am really confused. I can't help but feel like, (since my name is on the first page for being an a*****e apparently) I made this happen to them. Then I have also read that this happened after I went to bed last night. We all did that to them... >.< Leaving won't solve anything.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:25 pm
InternalHardDrive system malfunction InternalHardDrive Ahhah...I'm all cold and shaky inside, and my arm feels like ice. ... I'M NOT HAVING A BREAKDOWN, TOO, I SWEAR. D: *curls up* Is everyone catching some sort of rare stress-related internet disease? gonk
-puts on a bio-suit and aviods contact with everyone- no, I just feel really weird all of a sudden like shaky and stuff maybe it'll pass yes, pass, and I feel like giggling madly for some reason but I dunno why D: that's how it started! D:
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:28 pm
Chibi-Meower Lady Rai system malfunction InternalHardDrive Ahhah...I'm all cold and shaky inside, and my arm feels like ice. ... I'M NOT HAVING A BREAKDOWN, TOO, I SWEAR. D: *curls up* Is everyone catching some sort of rare stress-related internet disease? gonk
-puts on a bio-suit and aviods contact with everyone-
-shakes and freezes- I'm only this way because I have problems and hate to wear socks. Oh, and I'm feeling kind of sick. Being mad isn't helping my cause, either....
Poor IHD.Maybe Gaia's got some thing that's emmited when you look at this guild, and we're all getting sick. xDD Let's all just hope we all don't just collapse while staring at the screen. *laughs*(.hack! xD and please do notice the sarcasm =P))
But I don't feel well either. D: I wasn't feeling to well last night, and it might be because I spend to much time in my cold room sitting at the computer. >__< and This blanket is not helping with the coldness. I reeeally need another heat vent in here or something, I'm constantly cold in my room. But I never get sick. It's reeeallly weird. *hopes that she doesn't feel this bad tomorow* I shall not ruin my perfect school attendance! xD (And I'm serious about that, I haven't missed a single day of school since the begining of middle school, that's 4 years straight and couniting. xD) I'm sick with a head cold. x.x It got worse after I went to bed last night. I just almost burnt the house down. O_O Stupid popcorn! D:
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:34 pm
Dukes [Glitter.Poptart] Dukes [Glitter.Poptart] Actaully. No one really cares about me since I'm new. I'm just going to leave. Bye. Don't do that. Why not? I have no idea what is going on. The more I read the more I don't understand what happened. Who did that to them? Seriously? I am really confused. I can't help but feel like, (since my name is on the first page for being an a*****e apparently) I made this happen to them. Then I have also read that this happened after I went to bed last night. We all did that to them... >.< Leaving won't solve anything. Meo is new as well, and realizes this is correct. Though she was most likely sleeping (man it's been a while since I went to bed and got some decent amount asleep) we all have to realize that it's not one, but all. of us causing this problem, even if we did nothing because our PCs were off, and our heads up in the clouds, dreaming away.
Now Meo's been to a therapist, and although she hated going to the woman, she's starting to see practically the opposite of what she did to get herself into that woman's office once a week or so. Meo didn't tell anyone anything. The guild seems to be telling a tad much more then needed. There's always a happy medium, and any extremes aren't so great for anyone. Sometimes, it's better to keep somethings to yourself, and if you really need to shout and complain, do it somewhere else. If something's incredibly rude or mean, keeping it to yourself is usualy best. Though sometimes, if it's for the better of the community, sharing might be better. Think before you type, and edit out whatever you think might not be the best for that time. But keeping everything to yourself isn't good either, because feelings build up and then something like this could happen, it all explodes. And though this may have been a slow explosion of drama, it's still not good.
... And Meo is done playing therapist now.
and if anything offended anyone, Meo does nto mean it that way, she's only trying her best to help. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:37 pm
Dukes Lady Rai Yes, because making people feel like crap that weren't even here helps out ever so much. neutral
Sadly enough, Dukes, your mission failed. I don't feel like s**t because of what you posted. If you are mad at all of us who WEREN'T there, who DIDN'T post, you can be. I read Meru and Monkeys thread bashing Mori. I thought it was totally unfair that they had done that just because they were mad. I must have missed the rest of it, because I hate between game drama.
I chose not to post because I thought it would be a bad idea, as I never seem to make any situation better. By posting this, I've probably made whatever the hell happened worse. But, like you, I don't care anymore. I've decided that it doesn't matter. So, here we go with Rai's super-rantish post:
Making people feel bad about something they've already said solves nothing. Sure, it makes everyone want to apologize, but that rarely helps. I'm also scared for Nymphie and Merus well being. But I'm not going to make an a** out of everyone. It's these kinds of things that make people want to leave. It's threads that re-open old wounds that make people want to leave. What you are doing here, making everyone feel like crap for not defending Nymphie and Meru, is considered re-opening old wounds.
As Poptart demonstrated, this thread is making her want to leave. That's not the attitude we should take with people. Even if you think that saying "It's just a game" doesn't help, it might. YOU NEVER KNOW. Because guess what? It is just a game. Gaia Community Sniper GAME. Says so in the title.
I'm sorry that people made Meru and Nymphie had panic/asthma attacks. I'm sorry that I was busy PMing people and having fun in an RP to come here and defend them. I'm sorry that you feel you must make everyone feel bad. I'm sorry that Zae is dissapointed in us. I'm sorry that everyone does the things they do. D<
I may have sounded mean, but I'm tired of this guild. >.< This wasn't a brief thing. This was a culmination of the past few months' actions towards the VCs. So yeah, mostly everyone had a chance to speak up and didn't.
Tell me Rai, do you think that because they are VCs they deserved special anger because they made that topic? If a normal user made that topic I don't think they would have recieved anywhere near the same shitty treatment.
Making them feel bad solves nothing? If that's true my hopes for the human race are dead. If they feel bad about something they have done, I am willing to bet that the next time they come head to head with such a situation perhaps they'll handle it differently. If not, I think we'll all kill each other off within twenty years. Reopening old wounds you say... from last night... yeah, I guess in the two hours between the drama and my post the wounds would scab over.
Yeah, we have a game here. But most importantly, we are a COMMUNITY. Thus the Gaia COMMUNITY Sniper Game.'
I am sorry you don't see why I had to make this, others do.
Making people feel bad can't change the past is what I meant. I'll try to word things better now: Yelling at people after everything is done makes nothing in the past get better. Hindsight is better than foresight. Much better. So, for you to yell at them afterward, you have solved nothing. For maknig us who weren't here feel angry and mad solves nothing.
I DO NOT think that Meru and Key deserved special anger because they were VCs. I think they got anger because they were acting childish is a sense, being mad at Mori because he changed things up so Zen could win. Meru got her wish. Zae's back.
How can we be a COMMUNITY if you alienate people? How can we have a COMMUNITY spirit if there is some always tearing it down? How can we consider ourselves a COMMUNITY if people think that they must point out the faults in other.
"Without a sense of caring, there can be no sense of community."
-Anthony D'Angelo
We have no sense of caring. And this thread is not helping, at all.
I see why you made this thread. I just feel that you could have not made it or done a better job of communicating.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:39 pm
What. The. Hell. Just when I thought things couldn't get any worse, you guys somehow manage to give Nymphie and Meru a freaking nervous breakdown OVER THE INTERNET. I didn't think it was possible.
Look, Nymphie and Meru don't deserve all the crap they've been getting from us these last few months. Nervous breakdowns don't happen overnight; it's the buildup of stuff over a long period of time. Most of us don't realize how hard it is to take criticism. If you think you could do a better job how would you like it if people were constantly complaining to you about how bad of a job you're doing even if you were trying your best? Nymphie and Meru have been busting their asses off to try and make things go smoothly, but they never get a break.
And haven't all of us been taught manners? If you want the VCs to change something, ASK POLITELY. Don't yell at them or flame them; it hurts more than you think. They may just be players like the rest of us, but they deserve to be respected.
To say I'm disappointed is a huge understatement. If you guys are truly sorry for all this, apologize to Meru and Nymphie personally. Geez, when it comes to drama, maturity gets drop-kicked out the window...
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:45 pm
Phoenecia What. The. Hell. Just when I thought things couldn't get any worse, you guys somehow manage to give Nymphie and Meru a freaking nervous breakdown OVER THE INTERNET. I didn't think it was possible. Look, Nymphie and Meru don't deserve all the crap they've been getting from us these last few months. Nervous breakdowns don't happen overnight; it's the buildup of stuff over a long period of time. Most of us don't realize how hard it is to take criticism. If you think you could do a better job how would you like it if people were constantly complaining to you about how bad of a job you're doing even if you were trying your best? Nymphie and Meru have been busting their asses off to try and make things go smoothly, but they never get a break. And haven't all of us been taught manners? If you want the VCs to change something, ASK POLITELY. Don't yell at them or flame them; it hurts more than you think. They may just be players like the rest of us, but they deserve to be respected. To say I'm disappointed is a huge understatement. If you guys are truly sorry for all this, apologize to Meru and Nymphie personally. Geez, when it comes to drama, maturity gets drop-kicked out the window... I already have for Nymphie. I'm waiting for Meru to get on.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:46 pm
Yeah, I have enough problems in real life and I don't need internet problems seeping into my day to day life. I'm sorry that I feel like this is "Just a Game." I really don't need to this to become part of my real life.
Yes, I'm worried about Meru and Monkey and now I guess, Nymphie too.
And Dukes, I do not see why you made this thread. The way I see it, is it was a way to be mean to everyone. Make them feel bad and put them down. That's what you did to me and many others by calling us out by name.
I don't think I did anything wrong to them.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:49 pm
I have to leave you all now. My real life is taking over again.
I apologize in advance for anthing that happens while I'm not here, because that seems to be what Dukes is telling us all to do.
Dukes, if you still want to argue with me, I'll be happy to do so. I don't get to very often. ^^ I'll be back around six if you want to PM me or keep this hatethread up for that long.
And, yet again:
"Without a sense of caring, there can be no sense of community."
-Anthony D'Angelo
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:51 pm
Lady Rai Dukes Lady Rai Yes, because making people feel like crap that weren't even here helps out ever so much. neutral
Sadly enough, Dukes, your mission failed. I don't feel like s**t because of what you posted. If you are mad at all of us who WEREN'T there, who DIDN'T post, you can be. I read Meru and Monkeys thread bashing Mori. I thought it was totally unfair that they had done that just because they were mad. I must have missed the rest of it, because I hate between game drama.
I chose not to post because I thought it would be a bad idea, as I never seem to make any situation better. By posting this, I've probably made whatever the hell happened worse. But, like you, I don't care anymore. I've decided that it doesn't matter. So, here we go with Rai's super-rantish post:
Making people feel bad about something they've already said solves nothing. Sure, it makes everyone want to apologize, but that rarely helps. I'm also scared for Nymphie and Merus well being. But I'm not going to make an a** out of everyone. It's these kinds of things that make people want to leave. It's threads that re-open old wounds that make people want to leave. What you are doing here, making everyone feel like crap for not defending Nymphie and Meru, is considered re-opening old wounds.
As Poptart demonstrated, this thread is making her want to leave. That's not the attitude we should take with people. Even if you think that saying "It's just a game" doesn't help, it might. YOU NEVER KNOW. Because guess what? It is just a game. Gaia Community Sniper GAME. Says so in the title.
I'm sorry that people made Meru and Nymphie had panic/asthma attacks. I'm sorry that I was busy PMing people and having fun in an RP to come here and defend them. I'm sorry that you feel you must make everyone feel bad. I'm sorry that Zae is dissapointed in us. I'm sorry that everyone does the things they do. D<
I may have sounded mean, but I'm tired of this guild. >.< This wasn't a brief thing. This was a culmination of the past few months' actions towards the VCs. So yeah, mostly everyone had a chance to speak up and didn't.
Tell me Rai, do you think that because they are VCs they deserved special anger because they made that topic? If a normal user made that topic I don't think they would have recieved anywhere near the same shitty treatment.
Making them feel bad solves nothing? If that's true my hopes for the human race are dead. If they feel bad about something they have done, I am willing to bet that the next time they come head to head with such a situation perhaps they'll handle it differently. If not, I think we'll all kill each other off within twenty years. Reopening old wounds you say... from last night... yeah, I guess in the two hours between the drama and my post the wounds would scab over.
Yeah, we have a game here. But most importantly, we are a COMMUNITY. Thus the Gaia COMMUNITY Sniper Game.'
I am sorry you don't see why I had to make this, others do.
Making people feel bad can't change the past is what I meant. I'll try to word things better now: Yelling at people after everything is done makes nothing in the past get better. Hindsight is better than foresight. Much better. So, for you to yell at them afterward, you have solved nothing. For maknig us who weren't here feel angry and mad solves nothing.
I DO NOT think that Meru and Key deserved special anger because they were VCs. I think they got anger because they were acting childish is a sense, being mad at Mori because he changed things up so Zen could win. Meru got her wish. Zae's back.
How can we be a COMMUNITY if you alienate people? How can we have a COMMUNITY spirit if there is some always tearing it down? How can we consider ourselves a COMMUNITY if people think that they must point out the faults in other.
"Without a sense of caring, there can be no sense of community."
-Anthony D'Angelo
We have no sense of caring. And this thread is not helping, at all.
I see why you made this thread. I just feel that you could have not made it or done a better job of communicating.I'm going to skip most of this cause I don't feel like reiterating any more. The community bit is what I am going to discuss.
Rai, in your community outside of Gaia, does everyone get along? All happy go lucky loving each other? Because if so I want to move there, a place of perfect peace would be a nice place to live. Any community is going to have its' quarrels. You say we have no sense of caring, do you think I am yelling at everyone because I don't care? I care very much. I care that two GOOD PEOPLE were treated like s**t, driven to a break down, treated like crap until they quit. They ******** love this game and this guild, think about how much pain they had to be in to do that. So yeah, I care. I care that people don't see that what they were doing was a problem, maybe this thread will fix that, I don't know, but I'm damned if I won't try.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:54 pm
This reminds me why I quit gaia for 3 months. O_O;
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:56 pm
Once hatred and stuff builds up over a long period of time, when every action you make gets questioned, when people start putting you down, and when you start feeling like you can't do anything to change the situation, it starts to get to you.
I'm not totally stable mentally due to RL stuff right now, and it's not helping me deal with this.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:59 pm
[Glitter.Poptart] Yeah, I have enough problems in real life and I don't need internet problems seeping into my day to day life. I'm sorry that I feel like this is "Just a Game." I really don't need to this to become part of my real life. Yes, I'm worried about Meru and Monkey and now I guess, Nymphie too. And Dukes, I do not see why you made this thread. The way I see it, is it was a way to be mean to everyone. Make them feel bad and put them down. That's what you did to me and many others by calling us out by name. I don't think I did anything wrong to them. I made this thread to get people to see what they needed to see. It's not nice, it's not supposed to be, reality is not always nice, and some people here needed a nice sharp dose of it. Who did I call out by name, do you know? Let me tell you. Every name mentioned here was in the thread Meru and Monkey made, or the ones DeGei and Takazawa made, contributing to the overall drama. So yeah, even though you're new, your post contributed to the drama. We don't all sit around going "Oh She's new, we shouldn't pay her any mind" because that, for one, is a great way to alienate new people. I don't care what your intentions were, there's a saying, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" and it fits here. Yeah, I made this to make people feel bad. They needed to feel bad. Like I have said, I don't care what people will think of me for this. I did what had to be done. We can't all pretend our actions here don't affect anybody, because they do. So, sorry that you feel singled out, but you're not.
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