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 Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 5:42 pm
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:07 pm
Lol I can sell copies to people and put the proceeds towards some pro-life thing. Just doing my part.
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:25 am
lol, except you'd have to do it anonimously so that no one can turn you in to the cops. ninja
...Why am I helping on this again?
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:00 pm
Because you're secretly turned on by the thought of being raped and taped (haha, that rhymed.). That question should have been in the Guru thread, for shame.
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 4:25 pm
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 1:31 pm
Nah, you're just turned on by bad, bad girls.
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 4:03 pm
xd I think that ALL guys are.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:43 pm
Yomei I don't think that birth control is wrong, but the morning after pill is, because of what toxic said. The pill not only prevents fertilization, but in case the egg does get fertilized (which is more likely, considering the average amount of time between sex and whenever you wake up), it thins out the lining, preventing the fertilized egg from growing. Which, technically, is a type of abortion. I agree that it is a type of abortion. If we kill the chances of the egg ever being fertilized, then we kill the chance of that egg and sperm becoming life.
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:16 pm
Bumping this up because of a new thread started asking the same old question. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:20 pm
Cyanna I don't really approve of contraception. Even after marriage. Course I don't think there should be sex before marriage anyway but that's another beast. The reason why it's being fought (to answer the first post) is that it prevents a natural occurence from happening. What if that egg did come in contact with a sperm but was unable to be fertilized because of the pill? I know that sounds like a total longshot but a potential life that would have occured was just cut short. To me that seems very parallel to an abortion. It still prevents a life from being born. I agree; contraceptions turn sex into something only physical. I believe sex is for making babies; it can be pleasurable in the process but having the pleasure by itself is simply wrong. Gluttonous and wasteful, if you will, like eating something bad for you that tastes good, and then throwing it up afterwards so you won't have to face the consequences. (NOTE: I am NOT referring to people with bulemia, which is a disorder I take VERY seriously. (believe me.) I'm referring to people who behave like this while having full control of their actions and realize the consequences... so don't twist my words around, anyone, I'm absolutely not trying to offend people with eating disorders!! ....but anyway.. back to the main point...) The morning after pill I see only as another form of contraception-- only worse. It could be destroying a "lump of tissue" that is genetically identical to a human being... (what does that make it, then? A HUMAN BEING.) Wow, after I typed all this out, I realized that there were six pages, not only the first one.... which means this argument is really, really late... Er... sorry... but anyway... I thought I'd post it since I spend such a long time typing it out!
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:20 am
KasumiAngel toxic_lollipop That's only half true. The morning after pill, which I used to feel was okay, is only okay about 50% of the time. A percent which no one here has control over.
The morning after pill works in 2 ways, it prevents the sperm from penetrating the egg. This however doesn't always work, when it doesn't work the morning after pill also thins out the uterus lining so that the now fertalized egg can't attach and is rejected. I don't like the morning after pill. There is only a small chance that the girl will get pregnant to begin with, so you have to only include situations where she's at a point in her cycle where a live sperm can get to the egg. From what I've read, the morning-after pill tends to lean more towards the latter part of what Toxic described, not quite a 50-50 split in chance, at least once you take out the times when nothing would have happened anyways. All it really is is an overdose on birthcontrol pills, with the stuff from almost a weeks worth of pills crammed into one. I think the morning after pill is just a convenient way out for people who go and "accidentally" have unprotected sex (yes, some of these girls are rape victims, but the large majority of them were just not thinking). I see it as an abortion before it gets far enough along to be referred to a standard "abortion" practice. This was probably a little incoherent; my mind's not putting words together very well at the moment. yeah...i agree with that. when you take birth control of any sort, you are preventing life from happening. and i am catholic, so my religion states that no types of birth control should be used whatsoever during or after sex. no condoms, no birthcontrol shots, pills or patches...and absolutely no abortion. (though i have my own reasons to be against it...and i'll probably use the pills or condoms someday in my life) i am just saying that abortion is the curtail of a life that is just beginning, but these birthcontrol methods are preventing a life from ever beginning. don't get me wrong, i am totally against abortions, but don't you think that these methods are some kind of abortions of their own?
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:21 am
MysticMara KasumiAngel toxic_lollipop That's only half true. The morning after pill, which I used to feel was okay, is only okay about 50% of the time. A percent which no one here has control over.
The morning after pill works in 2 ways, it prevents the sperm from penetrating the egg. This however doesn't always work, when it doesn't work the morning after pill also thins out the uterus lining so that the now fertalized egg can't attach and is rejected. I don't like the morning after pill. There is only a small chance that the girl will get pregnant to begin with, so you have to only include situations where she's at a point in her cycle where a live sperm can get to the egg. From what I've read, the morning-after pill tends to lean more towards the latter part of what Toxic described, not quite a 50-50 split in chance, at least once you take out the times when nothing would have happened anyways. All it really is is an overdose on birthcontrol pills, with the stuff from almost a weeks worth of pills crammed into one. I think the morning after pill is just a convenient way out for people who go and "accidentally" have unprotected sex (yes, some of these girls are rape victims, but the large majority of them were just not thinking). I see it as an abortion before it gets far enough along to be referred to a standard "abortion" practice. This was probably a little incoherent; my mind's not putting words together very well at the moment. yeah...i agree with that. when you take birth control of any sort, you are preventing life from happening. and i am catholic, so my religion states that no types of birth control should be used whatsoever during or after sex. no condoms, no birthcontrol shots, pills or patches...and absolutely no abortion. (though i have my own reasons to be against it...and i'll probably use the pills or condoms someday in my life) i am just saying that abortion is the curtail of a life that is just beginning, but these birthcontrol methods are preventing a life from ever beginning. don't get me wrong, i am totally against abortions, but don't you think that these other methods are some kind of abortions of their own?
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:10 am
Hmm. interesting dilema. See, I don't like the whole premarital sex thing because sex to me is just....a bond between a man and a woman who love eachother. If he or she is the one, I want to marry him or her because that bond I have, only wanna have it with one guy because I think it'll lose something if it isn't. Yeah, sex is for procreation, but I think it's for love too. And by love I mean, not just the physical. Like, emotional, deep down, ya de ya de ya, not just "this is fun." Sex is not a game. On the other hand, birth control is available and prevents many unwanted births that would turn into aborted babies, and it makes our argument a lot better. I mean, the comstock laws really had to go at some point, or RvW woulda happened sooner. There is more of an argument now that abortion is unnecessary as birth control and to use it as birth control is murder. This wipes out 95% of abortions and then leaves that debateable 5% due to danger and rape. that's....oh I forget what, I had the numbers in another post. As long as birth control is available, that's one less argument we have to deal with about unwanted births.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:44 am
On a sex education training course ( a good one, not a "sex is bad dont do it" one)
I learned that..."If there is an egg present in the uterus, it WILL become fertilised at most of one second after ejaculation"
This, depressingly means...that the morning after pill DOES count as abortion technically. Just very very very early abortion.
I hope it doesnt upset anyone...it upset me because I dont like the thought of killing somthing without giving it a chance to live.
((posted this in other thread too...i just wanted to make it clear, however upsetting..that the morning after pill is a very very very early abortion...))
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:06 pm
I am not against the morning after pill, yet I am not for it either.
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