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 Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:38 pm
Bruce-Ganked-Lee CelestialDreamz My instructor just told me a classic TKD vs. Street Fighter story, so I thought I'd share it with you guys. My instructor had two friends, one of which is your average, cocky TKD practitioner. The other was just a random guy who was in a bike gang or something. They were at a bar, and the TKD guy mouthed off to the biker, so the two guys got into a fight. The TKD guy threw a kick to the biker's head. The biker grabbed his knife and stabbed it into the attacking leg. Quick, efficient, and painful. And to add insult to injury, he stated "This is why TKD doesn't work. I'll leave the knife there, as a gift." Ah....I love family stories. Awww... *whipes away a tear* Heart warming, really.
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:00 am
Anyone that chucks a head height kick in a real situation deserves to have the knife stuck in their scrote...
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Delmar_Denban Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:37 am
Reim Bruce-Ganked-Lee CelestialDreamz My instructor just told me a classic TKD vs. Street Fighter story, so I thought I'd share it with you guys. My instructor had two friends, one of which is your average, cocky TKD practitioner. The other was just a random guy who was in a bike gang or something. They were at a bar, and the TKD guy mouthed off to the biker, so the two guys got into a fight. The TKD guy threw a kick to the biker's head. The biker grabbed his knife and stabbed it into the attacking leg. Quick, efficient, and painful. And to add insult to injury, he stated "This is why TKD doesn't work. I'll leave the knife there, as a gift." Ah....I love family stories. Awww... *whipes away a tear* Heart warming, really. meh, i've seen similar things happen. The truth is it could of happened to any practitioner of any art which incorporates head kicks such as TKD, JKD, Muay Thai, Karate, Kung Fu etc etc. If you're stupid enough to throw a head kick then you will get wasted. Then again i've seen people make it work, for example when somebody has already thrown many strikes and the attacker is still standing but dazed/out on their feet i've seen head kicks used as a finisher (just to show off). Personally the only time i'll throw a head kick is when my opponant is on the floor.
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 3:38 pm
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 3:59 pm
Spinning kicks don't work, either.
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:41 pm
Well, depends. In that scenario, would you rather get stabbed in the leg, or your back and the back of your skull and get dropped faster then... then... I got no witty remark..
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 1:35 am
When analysing any technique things to look for usually are: Directness Speed Safety (where applicable) Accuracy Power Spin kicks, and alot of similar techniques are often build and created around old "proven" theories that the longer a limb spents on its...journey if you will the more power it will accumulate hence the classical martial art punches in things such as Karate. However, its much more reasonable to assume that a more direct, swifter, technique transfers more force unto and through its target.
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 1:38 am
Reim Well, depends. In that scenario, would you rather get stabbed in the leg, or your back and the back of your skull and get dropped faster then... then... I got no witty remark.. The Perennial Spinning kicks don't work, either. Where I've never advocated simply outruling something based on common consensus, but when you give an answer to a question like Deimos' please give some reason or point him in the right direction why its not effective.
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:25 am
Jass Reim Well, depends. In that scenario, would you rather get stabbed in the leg, or your back and the back of your skull and get dropped faster then... then... I got no witty remark.. The Perennial Spinning kicks don't work, either. Where I've never advocated simply outruling something based on common consensus, but when you give an answer to a question like Deimos' please give some reason or point him in the right direction why its not effective. Even in friendly sparring its difficult to pull off a spin kick without getting ********... you can see it coming a mile off and its far too easy to run up behind and fill in the back of the head, I'm wary of using them in competition never mind the street. I would be even less inclined to use them on the street than a head kick. Tho I have had people trying to teach me spin kicks in 'self defence' lessons
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 4:23 am
DarklingGlory Jass Reim Well, depends. In that scenario, would you rather get stabbed in the leg, or your back and the back of your skull and get dropped faster then... then... I got no witty remark.. The Perennial Spinning kicks don't work, either. Where I've never advocated simply outruling something based on common consensus, but when you give an answer to a question like Deimos' please give some reason or point him in the right direction why its not effective. Even in friendly sparring its difficult to pull off a spin kick without getting ********... you can see it coming a mile off and its far too easy to run up behind and fill in the back of the head, I'm wary of using them in competition never mind the street. I would be even less inclined to use them on the street than a head kick. Tho I have had people trying to teach me spin kicks in 'self defence' lessons As I've said I rarely kick in fights because I often find a lack of oppurtunit but I train them all the same, I tend to train the following the most: Hook kicks Round house kicks Side kick (of course) Front kicks Push kicks Groin kick Shin kicks Straight kicks Low kicks ...and then knee's etc though I can't see how thats applicable here. Most of my kicking arsenal would come from Savate, Muay Thai and variations of kicks from other arts.
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:45 am
Jass DarklingGlory Jass Reim Well, depends. In that scenario, would you rather get stabbed in the leg, or your back and the back of your skull and get dropped faster then... then... I got no witty remark.. The Perennial Spinning kicks don't work, either. Where I've never advocated simply outruling something based on common consensus, but when you give an answer to a question like Deimos' please give some reason or point him in the right direction why its not effective. Even in friendly sparring its difficult to pull off a spin kick without getting ********... you can see it coming a mile off and its far too easy to run up behind and fill in the back of the head, I'm wary of using them in competition never mind the street. I would be even less inclined to use them on the street than a head kick. Tho I have had people trying to teach me spin kicks in 'self defence' lessons As I've said I rarely kick in fights because I often find a lack of oppurtunit but I train them all the same, I tend to train the following the most: Hook kicks Round house kicks Side kick (of course) Front kicks Push kicks Groin kick Shin kicks Straight kicks Low kicks ...and then knee's etc though I can't see how thats applicable here. Most of my kicking arsenal would come from Savate, Muay Thai and variations of kicks from other arts. Yeah, for usefullness I practise front, turning (roundhouse) and side no higher than lower abdomen. And out of those I prefer front as you can keep your hands engaged at the same time as destroying someones knees or groin
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:50 am
DarklingGlory Jass DarklingGlory Jass Reim Well, depends. In that scenario, would you rather get stabbed in the leg, or your back and the back of your skull and get dropped faster then... then... I got no witty remark.. The Perennial Spinning kicks don't work, either. Where I've never advocated simply outruling something based on common consensus, but when you give an answer to a question like Deimos' please give some reason or point him in the right direction why its not effective. Even in friendly sparring its difficult to pull off a spin kick without getting ********... you can see it coming a mile off and its far too easy to run up behind and fill in the back of the head, I'm wary of using them in competition never mind the street. I would be even less inclined to use them on the street than a head kick. Tho I have had people trying to teach me spin kicks in 'self defence' lessons As I've said I rarely kick in fights because I often find a lack of oppurtunit but I train them all the same, I tend to train the following the most: Hook kicks Round house kicks Side kick (of course) Front kicks Push kicks Groin kick Shin kicks Straight kicks Low kicks ...and then knee's etc though I can't see how thats applicable here. Most of my kicking arsenal would come from Savate, Muay Thai and variations of kicks from other arts. Yeah, for usefullness I practise front, turning (roundhouse) and side no higher than lower abdomen. And out of those I prefer front as you can keep your hands engaged at the same time as destroying someones knees or groin I don't really kick higher then the abdomen however I do advise training them higher then the head for fitness and flexibility, I can do virtual vertical splits from a kick.
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:57 am
Absolutely, I do TKD so its kind of a given to kick high... vertical splits is well impressive, cant quite manage that yet, can get my foot to around 8 feet in the air and almost verticle if someone holds my leg... sweatdrop
*imagines street senario* excuse me mister attacker could you hold my leg up to show how impressive my kicking is?
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:09 am
DarklingGlory Absolutely, I do TKD so its kind of a given to kick high... vertical splits is well impressive, cant quite manage that yet, can get my foot to around 8 feet in the air and almost verticle if someone holds my leg... sweatdrop *imagines street senario* excuse me mister attacker could you hold my leg up to show how impressive my kicking is? Lol, it simply takes practice...and the correct type of stretching. EDIT: I got 90% of my flexibility from Ballet xD, and no one ever says anything negative of Ballet around me.
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:19 am
No no, I've seen quite a few people find it alot easier to get good at kicking because they had a good grounding in ballet or gymnastics, it does wonders for all of it not just flexibility. Balance, timing etc
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