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Is this a good idea?!?
yes
78%
 78%  [ 43 ]
no
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 21%  [ 12 ]
Total Votes : 55


Bao Pu

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:08 am


I have no need, I've got Stepmania wink
PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:24 pm


the_DDR_Master
the thing bout the copyright issues, that doesn't even hold water. Konami and Benami alrealdy owns the rights to those songs so it really doesn't hold water. good thought though(No sarcasm)


Copyright isn't as straight forward as you think. We have hundreds of pages dedicated to protect artists and their rights and licenses only grant so much control over a song. Licenses can be lost over different reasons and cause delays in production. There can also be a time limit over which a song can be freely used before a renewal must be made and will only be made if proven profitable. This business is far more complicated than simply buying and having. There are boundries you mustn't cross or your license is the equivilent of toliet paper.

In response to another Gaian who uses Stepmania, I have Stepmania fully loaded with Konami mixes, but I'd still like to see, play, and own another DDR Mix since Stepmania can only get so close to the real thing.

Izam De Elua


Shiko_Shinuki

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:48 pm


I would like to have Firefly, Butterfly, Healing vision, Waka Laka! 3nodding heart
PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:57 am


Shiko_Shinuki
I would like to have Firefly, Butterfly, Healing vision, Waka Laka! 3nodding heart


Which Healing Vision? Angelic mix or the original 1? No duh Waka Laka. That song rox!

Phantom_Dark_Theif


Original Z

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:00 pm


Izam De Elua
the_DDR_Master
the thing bout the copyright issues, that doesn't even hold water. Konami and Benami alrealdy owns the rights to those songs so it really doesn't hold water. good thought though(No sarcasm)


Copyright isn't as straight forward as you think. We have hundreds of pages dedicated to protect artists and their rights and licenses only grant so much control over a song. Licenses can be lost over different reasons and cause delays in production. There can also be a time limit over which a song can be freely used before a renewal must be made and will only be made if proven profitable. This business is far more complicated than simply buying and having. There are boundries you mustn't cross or your license is the equivilent of toliet paper.

In response to another Gaian who uses Stepmania, I have Stepmania fully loaded with Konami mixes, but I'd still like to see, play, and own another DDR Mix since Stepmania can only get so close to the real thing.


In addition, Konami doesn't own any of these copyrights. The songs are licensed IN JAPAN, not America. In Japan, Konami has an agreement with Dancemania so they can use as many songs as they want from the series since it's great advertisement for the series.

In America, this agreement doesn't exist. It costs a lot of money to license these songs, espically since a lot of them are artists that don't exist in America and therefore it will be very hard to find the record label that is relevant here. Also, some artists may not want their songs in DDR here. Smile.dk has said that they don't want any of their songs to be played in America.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:41 am


Original Z
Izam De Elua
the_DDR_Master
the thing bout the copyright issues, that doesn't even hold water. Konami and Benami alrealdy owns the rights to those songs so it really doesn't hold water. good thought though(No sarcasm)


Copyright isn't as straight forward as you think. We have hundreds of pages dedicated to protect artists and their rights and licenses only grant so much control over a song. Licenses can be lost over different reasons and cause delays in production. There can also be a time limit over which a song can be freely used before a renewal must be made and will only be made if proven profitable. This business is far more complicated than simply buying and having. There are boundries you mustn't cross or your license is the equivilent of toliet paper.

In response to another Gaian who uses Stepmania, I have Stepmania fully loaded with Konami mixes, but I'd still like to see, play, and own another DDR Mix since Stepmania can only get so close to the real thing.


In addition, Konami doesn't own any of these copyrights. The songs are licensed IN JAPAN, not America. In Japan, Konami has an agreement with Dancemania so they can use as many songs as they want from the series since it's great advertisement for the series.

In America, this agreement doesn't exist. It costs a lot of money to license these songs, espically since a lot of them are artists that don't exist in America and therefore it will be very hard to find the record label that is relevant here. Also, some artists may not want their songs in DDR here. Smile.dk has said that they don't want any of their songs to be played in America.


O..K... well.. i didn't want this to be a big thing with de copyright stuff. um.. Questoin. wat song does Smile.dk make? i'm just wondering. also, how long do u think it will take to get a reply from konami? i emailed them on the 25th and i'm wondering howe long it will take. well. hey, i'm very happy about how much support i've gotten for this idea. Thank you every 1. If i can get every1 a free copy of the game (IF it comes out dat is) i will. i'll try to send every 1 who supported this idea a free copy of the game(IF it comes out that is).

Phantom_Dark_Theif


Phantom_Dark_Theif

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:23 pm


All right people time is officially up. i just emailed Konmai and my idea is on the way. I gaev them the support and everything. Note: Every1 who supported this idea might get a free game if it goes though. All the people who didn't support it probably won't. I also will take any sarcasm that is int eh negative direction as a non-support. so... well. time is up. ya snooz ya looze. well. tanks 4 da support people. good work. biggrin
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:31 pm


Thanks to Original Z for helping with the copyright information. And as for getting a free copy of the game, very doubtful but here's to hoping.

Izam De Elua


Phantom_Dark_Theif

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:34 am


Izam De Elua
Thanks to Original Z for helping with the copyright information. And as for getting a free copy of the game, very doubtful but here's to hoping.


I know i'll get a free copy if this thing goes though. O SHOOT! How is Konami going 2 find out were to send the game 2? Well, i'll figure something out. um..... Ya Here's to Hoping.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:01 am


the_DDR_Master

O..K... well.. i didn't want this to be a big thing with de copyright stuff. um.. Questoin. wat song does Smile.dk make? i'm just wondering. also, how long do u think it will take to get a reply from konami? i emailed them on the 25th and i'm wondering howe long it will take. well. hey, i'm very happy about how much support i've gotten for this idea. Thank you every 1. If i can get every1 a free copy of the game (IF it comes out dat is) i will. i'll try to send every 1 who supported this idea a free copy of the game(IF it comes out that is).


Smile.dk makes songs such as Butterfly, Boys, Dancing All Alone, and a few other songs.

My guess is that you'll get a reply in the form of "thank you for your interest in Konami products" or something like that.

Original Z


Phantom_Dark_Theif

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:37 pm


Original Z
the_DDR_Master

O..K... well.. i didn't want this to be a big thing with de copyright stuff. um.. Questoin. wat song does Smile.dk make? i'm just wondering. also, how long do u think it will take to get a reply from konami? i emailed them on the 25th and i'm wondering howe long it will take. well. hey, i'm very happy about how much support i've gotten for this idea. Thank you every 1. If i can get every1 a free copy of the game (IF it comes out dat is) i will. i'll try to send every 1 who supported this idea a free copy of the game(IF it comes out that is).


Smile.dk makes songs such as Butterfly, Boys, Dancing All Alone, and a few other songs.

My guess is that you'll get a reply in the form of "thank you for your interest in Konami products" or something like that.


Thanks for the info. If i get a cruddy reply like that, i'll send it to the highest position of the home video game Depot. that might do it.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:27 pm


Not trying ta' burst your bubble but I think it's going to be a little tough trying to get all that accomplished. Although it would be extremely awesome, I doubt they'd probably hand out free copies anyways.

And I didn't know Smile.DK didn't want their songs in the home versions of America. *sniff* crying

Paradot


Phantom_Dark_Theif

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:25 am


Alpha_Prime
Not trying ta' burst your bubble but I think it's going to be a little tough trying to get all that accomplished. Although it would be extremely awesome, I doubt they'd probably hand out free copies anyways.

And I didn't know Smile.DK didn't want their songs in the home versions of America. *sniff* crying


yes i know it will be hard but i'm very determined. i will try my hardest to get this idea across. also the idea about handing of free copies, i'm pretty sure that won't work. but i'll try. well.......... ya. i'm also pretty sad myself that Smile.dk doesn't want any of their songs in the us because i wanted butterfly on this home mix. oh well... i put butterfly on my list so hopefully they'll just put that song on. MAYBE JUST MAYBE.. o_o"
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:34 pm


the_DDR_Master
Alpha_Prime
Not trying ta' burst your bubble but I think it's going to be a little tough trying to get all that accomplished. Although it would be extremely awesome, I doubt they'd probably hand out free copies anyways.

And I didn't know Smile.DK didn't want their songs in the home versions of America. *sniff* crying


yes i know it will be hard but i'm very determined. i will try my hardest to get this idea across. also the idea about handing of free copies, i'm pretty sure that won't work. but i'll try. well.......... ya. i'm also pretty sad myself that Smile.dk doesn't want any of their songs in the us because i wanted butterfly on this home mix. oh well... i put butterfly on my list so hopefully they'll just put that song on. MAYBE JUST MAYBE.. o_o"



Heh, dude, if Smile.dk doesn't want their songs on U.S. versions, they WON'T Be on there. Konami would probably be in a bit of trouble if they pulled that stunt behind their backs.

Paradot


Phantom_Dark_Theif

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:56 am


Alpha_Prime
the_DDR_Master
Alpha_Prime
Not trying ta' burst your bubble but I think it's going to be a little tough trying to get all that accomplished. Although it would be extremely awesome, I doubt they'd probably hand out free copies anyways.

And I didn't know Smile.DK didn't want their songs in the home versions of America. *sniff* crying


yes i know it will be hard but i'm very determined. i will try my hardest to get this idea across. also the idea about handing of free copies, i'm pretty sure that won't work. but i'll try. well.......... ya. i'm also pretty sad myself that Smile.dk doesn't want any of their songs in the us because i wanted butterfly on this home mix. oh well... i put butterfly on my list so hopefully they'll just put that song on. MAYBE JUST MAYBE.. o_o"



Heh, dude, if Smile.dk doesn't want their songs on U.S. versions, they WON'T Be on there. Konami would probably be in a bit of trouble if they pulled that stunt behind their backs.


True... Oh well. it really stinx that they don't want to have any of their songs on US versions
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