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 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:36 pm
Gwyndara Lady Moon Water I grew up in a Mormon household... I NEVER liked going to church... so I started to not go and then knid of stop believeing in The Mormon ways... I am Wicca and I have been for 2 years now... I entered in and retoke a new name... I was reborn as a new person... but I still go by the name Shirley, for I love the name shirley and I want to keep it, plus the school will only reconize that as my name.
Also I am all for the Own Spirtuliaty(sp) I just do it a little bit of form with it... I do it at home, but stick with my guildlines of me part of Wicca... I just read this. Wow, you must be a very strong young woman. I admire that. It is one of the hardest things for one who was "Raised" "Mormon" to completely turn away from that faith. I know, I belong to the LDS faith. If ever you want to chat just pm me. *hugs* I was raised LDS (if you ask me now I think they are all a joke anymore... No offence to anyone but that is how I feel now) My mother struggled for years with a father who could careless if his four children and wife ate. My mom begged for assistance (which the mormans are suppost to help with if the need is there) and they told her no!!! They told her to WORK HARDER.... And I am sorry to say that telling a woman who already held three jobs and was still struggling to "work harder" is like jumping on the head of god! I still went to church after that though feeling that though and found my ex there. After I got pregnant the church turned their back on me (some of them even called me a whore and blamed my actions on my mother who had nothing to do with it)... Please take no offence to this because these are just my feelings but everyone (where I'm from) who is Morman is a Hypocrit... My son's grandparents are ashamed of him and want nothing to do with him... All because of the church! Please Gwyndara don't take this the wrong way I think you are a magnificent person but my feelings remain the same about the church! sad
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:47 pm
jzznjasmine Gwyndara Lady Moon Water I grew up in a Mormon household... I NEVER liked going to church... so I started to not go and then knid of stop believeing in The Mormon ways... I am Wicca and I have been for 2 years now... I entered in and retoke a new name... I was reborn as a new person... but I still go by the name Shirley, for I love the name shirley and I want to keep it, plus the school will only reconize that as my name.
Also I am all for the Own Spirtuliaty(sp) I just do it a little bit of form with it... I do it at home, but stick with my guildlines of me part of Wicca... I just read this. Wow, you must be a very strong young woman. I admire that. It is one of the hardest things for one who was "Raised" "Mormon" to completely turn away from that faith. I know, I belong to the LDS faith. If ever you want to chat just pm me. *hugs* I was raised LDS (if you ask me now I think they are all a joke anymore... No offence to anyone but that is how I feel now) My mother struggled for years with a father who could careless if his four children and wife ate. My mom begged for assistance (which the mormans are suppost to help with if the need is there) and they told her no!!! They told her to WORK HARDER.... And I am sorry to say that telling a woman who already held three jobs and was still struggling to "work harder" is like jumping on the head of god! I still went to church after that though feeling that though and found my ex there. After I got pregnant the church turned their back on me (some of them even called me a whore and blamed my actions on my mother who had nothing to do with it)... Please take no offence to this because these are just my feelings but everyone (where I'm from) who is Morman is a Hypocrit... My son's grandparents are ashamed of him and want nothing to do with him... All because of the church! Please Gwyndara don't take this the wrong way I think you are a magnificent person but my feelings remain the same about the church! sad I understand how you feel. Sadly I have seen such things. My faith lies with the Doctrine and the teachings of the church, not with the members themselves. I'm sorry for what happend to your family. It is wrong. I wish I could change it. redface I wouldn't say I am magnificent, but I do try to, not be hypocritical.
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:59 pm
You are the only good example of a Mormon I've ever come across Gwyn, I respect you very much.
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:01 pm
Gemstone You are the only good example of a Mormon I've ever come across Gwyn, I respect you very much. Thank you. Belive me when I say that the respect is mutual. Your one of the best people I have ever met.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:32 pm
Gemstone You are the only good example of a Mormon I've ever come across Gwyn, I respect you very much. *agrees whole heartedly!!!* 3nodding 3nodding 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:37 pm
Gwyndara jzznjasmine Gwyndara Lady Moon Water I grew up in a Mormon household... I NEVER liked going to church... so I started to not go and then knid of stop believeing in The Mormon ways... I am Wicca and I have been for 2 years now... I entered in and retoke a new name... I was reborn as a new person... but I still go by the name Shirley, for I love the name shirley and I want to keep it, plus the school will only reconize that as my name.
Also I am all for the Own Spirtuliaty(sp) I just do it a little bit of form with it... I do it at home, but stick with my guildlines of me part of Wicca... I just read this. Wow, you must be a very strong young woman. I admire that. It is one of the hardest things for one who was "Raised" "Mormon" to completely turn away from that faith. I know, I belong to the LDS faith. If ever you want to chat just pm me. *hugs* I was raised LDS (if you ask me now I think they are all a joke anymore... No offence to anyone but that is how I feel now) My mother struggled for years with a father who could careless if his four children and wife ate. My mom begged for assistance (which the mormans are suppost to help with if the need is there) and they told her no!!! They told her to WORK HARDER.... And I am sorry to say that telling a woman who already held three jobs and was still struggling to "work harder" is like jumping on the head of god! I still went to church after that though feeling that though and found my ex there. After I got pregnant the church turned their back on me (some of them even called me a whore and blamed my actions on my mother who had nothing to do with it)... Please take no offence to this because these are just my feelings but everyone (where I'm from) who is Morman is a Hypocrit... My son's grandparents are ashamed of him and want nothing to do with him... All because of the church! Please Gwyndara don't take this the wrong way I think you are a magnificent person but my feelings remain the same about the church! sad I understand how you feel. Sadly I have seen such things. My faith lies with the Doctrine and the teachings of the church, not with the members themselves. I'm sorry for what happend to your family. It is wrong. I wish I could change it. redface I wouldn't say I am magnificent, but I do try to, not be hypocritical. I have begun to believe that there is no place for "orinized" religion and that the faith a person fells should be in their heart... Not someone elses teachings.... I say "Read the bible/ book of morman/ pearl of great price/ koran and everything else out there and judge yourself on the teaching within them.... Because they were meant for each person to take it in a different way!!!"
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:24 pm
jzznjasmine I have begun to believe that there is no place for "orinized" religion and that the faith a person fells should be in their heart... Not someone elses teachings.... I say "Read the bible/ book of morman/ pearl of great price/ koran and everything else out there and judge yourself on the teaching within them.... Because they were meant for each person to take it in a different way!!!" Amen, and I second that! I must say, I've met a few good mormons in my day. My martial arts instructor and his wife are mormon, as well as several of the students. One of the truly BEST people I know is mormon, though I rarely get to speak to him much. I think the worst thing he's ever said about anyone is that they're "dastardly." xd So sweet.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:42 pm
Reading all of the "holy" books is defenityl something I recomend.
and finding your own path is defenityly the only way to reach God./Goddess/everything else.
*hugs*
I love you all.
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:04 am
Gwyndara Reading all of the "holy" books is defenityl something I recomend. and finding your own path is defenityly the only way to reach God./Goddess/everything else. *hugs* I love you all.
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:00 am
hmm, well I'm Pagan. I believe in many different things, I'm eclectic. I combine Druidry, Native American, Buddhism, Shinto and a bit of Wicca.
The only one that I have had that has any problem with these things is my own mother who believe in some of this but was raised on Christian beliefs. She hates it when I speak of it and mocks me most of the time.
I also found that some people are very ignorent when it comes to accepting the fact that there are people who follow different paths other than the many forms of Christianity or people that believe that they are the only ones that are right no matter what belief system. I've had one person on the extreme Christian side telling me that I am on the path to hell etc. and that I should change my ways before it is too late. I've only ever had one extreme "Wiccan" who was definately a "fluffy" and had something wrong (mentally, she supposedly was threatening a teacher of mine at the college I was going to) with her tell me all these very crazy things. This made my mom flip of course and told me that I should definately hide all my beliefs. *sigh*
It is too bad that we live in a world where ignorance dominates.
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:14 am
stare I am very angry. stare
I don't understand how a person who professes to belive that people can worship how or where or what they whish can be so against different religions.
I have friends who are non christian, I have friends who are christian but who are non Mormon. And my family just doesn't understand that I can have them as my friends. I am constantly told that I should not be thier friend anymore.
But if I did that, then I would have to stop almost everything I do.
I would have to quit the Civil War Association.
I would have to quit my Medival group.
I would have to quit talking to my nebors,
and I would have to quit being on Gaia, and a couple other internet sites.
Oh and not to mention I would have to just tell some of my best friends in the world good bye.
Why can't my family just be happy that I have friends, and not worry so much about what they belive.
I'm not going to leave my church just because my friends are not LDS.
*Sigh* I didn't know where to put this, and as it is due to my religious belifes, I posted it in here.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:52 pm
*nods* I completely agree with you that that sort of thing is very frustrating. I've encountered many people like that and people who try to force me to believe what they do, yet they decide to tell others and myself (when i'm not alone) that they don't push or preach their religion. *sigh* Rediculous I tell you.
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:41 pm
I've been super lucky in the fact that my parents are completely openminded. I'm openly Pagan and my Mother more or less encourages me (she got me my Tarots, my Runes, even my Pentacle, a Bast Statuette, candles. . . more or less everything save a dagger. ^^ ). Even my Grandmother and Great Grandmother are open about these things. We're descended from the Celts, which has helped in a way.
I've also lived in a multicultural society my whole life, save for one portion where I lived on a Native reserve. I now live in the direct vicinity of a Christian church, Pentacostal Church, Roman Catholic Church, Buddhist Temple and Siek (sp?) Gurudwara. I've grown up in an area where you can't afford to be racist or anything of the sort. And I'm very greatful for it.
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:14 pm
Gwyndara stare I am very angry. stare I don't understand how a person who professes to belive that people can worship how or where or what they whish can be so against different religions. I have friends who are non christian, I have friends who are christian but who are non Mormon. And my family just doesn't understand that I can have them as my friends. I am constantly told that I should not be thier friend anymore. But if I did that, then I would have to stop almost everything I do. I would have to quit the Civil War Association. I would have to quit my Medival group. I would have to quit talking to my nebors, and I would have to quit being on Gaia, and a couple other internet sites. Oh and not to mention I would have to just tell some of my best friends in the world good bye. Why can't my family just be happy that I have friends, and not worry so much about what they belive. I'm not going to leave my church just because my friends are not LDS. *Sigh* I didn't know where to put this, and as it is due to my religious belifes, I posted it in here. I definately know how you feel that is a terrible thing to judge people on! I have many different friends of many different religions and races I don't really care! So long as they don't force their religion on me! I guess that is what is good about living in the city I live in.... There is soooo much ethnic/ religious diversity that no one really even pays any attention!
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:15 pm
I know where you're coming from, Gwyndara. I only have probably one Christian friend, and he's a very eclectic and open minded Christian. My mom would have a total cow if she knew, even though I am 22 and an adult. Those people who share my interests tend not to follow the Church. They have no problem with me, nor I with them, however my mom is a different matter.
Have your family members talked to any of your non LDS friends? Maybe if they get to know any of them it will help.
I hope things work out. We'd REALLY miss you if you were gone.
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