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 Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:29 pm
Holypimp Actually I would probabally have to disagree with you there as well....depending on the age group of the people you were playing this game with....you could probabally call it sexual immorality and that would be a good name for it because our world is peverted. Sorry, no. Picking up rocks is not sexual immorality, even if you call it that. That's my point. Edit: Did I even mention playing this game with kids? I'm very disturbed now. neutral Quote: The fact that she calls everyone witches and wizards isnt a big deal. Its the fact that she makes them go as far as casting spells (real or fake it dosnt matter.) If you have ever read a black magic book some stuff in there is latin. (I have friends who practice black magic) OK I have to go to bed because I have school in 5 1/2 hours Ill continue this when schools over. So anything containing spells is evil? Back to calling Narnia witchcraft, then.
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:33 pm
Holypimp Actually I would probabally have to disagree with you there as well....depending on the age group of the people you were playing this game with....you could probabally call it sexual immorality and that would be a good name for it because our world is peverted. The fact that she calls everyone witches and wizards isnt a big deal. Its the fact that she makes them go as far as casting spells (real or fake it dosnt matter.) If you have ever read a black magic book some stuff in there is latin. (I have friends who practice black magic)Well DUH it's in latin. Latin just happens to be not only the base language to a multitude of languages (including spanish, french and several euro-russian languages), but is a large contributer to the english language. Not to mention that the New Testament was written in Ancient Greek, which (I do believe ) was, itself, largely based off of latin. so if latin=whitchcraft, then we're pretty much screwed.
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:33 pm
Gilwen But it isn't wiccan either. It's a fictional expression of a parody of witchcraft (e.g. broomsticks, cauldrons, witches with warts on their noses, etc.) yeah, but I'm just silly and nit-picky like that. XD
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:34 pm
Gilwen Sorry, no. Picking up rocks is not sexual immorality, even if you call it that. That's my point. Edit: Did I even mention playing this game with kids? I'm very disturbed now. neutral Hey Gilwen, wanna go play sexual immorrality? xd
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:35 pm
Cometh The Inquisitor Well DUH it's in latin. Latin just happens to be not only the base language to a multitude of languages (including spanish, french and several euro-russian languages), but is a large contributer to the english language. Not to mention that the New Testament was written in Ancient Greek, which (I do believe ) was, itself, largely based off of latin. so if latin=whitchcraft, then we're pretty much screwed. Actually, Latin was influenced by Greek, not the other way around. But your point remains: Latin does not equal sin.
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:37 pm
Cometh The Inquisitor Gilwen Sorry, no. Picking up rocks is not sexual immorality, even if you call it that. That's my point. Edit: Did I even mention playing this game with kids? I'm very disturbed now. neutral Hey Gilwen, wanna go play sexual immorrality? xd Only if we can play it with little kids. rolleyes *migraine #2*
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:39 pm
Cometh The Inquisitor Hey Gilwen, wanna go play sexual immorrality? xd You made me smile for the first time in about 30 minutes, by the way. smile
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:42 pm
I have to leave the guild for the night, unfortunately. I'll leave with this evidence on my side:
At least a dozen Christians who are avid readers of Harry Potter, devoted to God, and sensitive to their consciences. If you can explain to them why the Holy Spirit wouldn't bring their transgression in reading HP to their attention, I would appreciate it. blaugh
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:44 pm
Cometh The Inquisitor so if latin=whitchcraft, then we're pretty much screwed. The Vatican's going to be shocked. eek
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:56 am
Gilwen Holypimp's argument is an example of the Holy Spirit's guidance? No, I shouldn't have said example there. The point of that statement was to show that doing something outright knowing it is wrong brings greater judgement than doing something we don't know is wrong, but at the same time, we need to check with God on iffy issues. mistressofthelost Christians are also fighting to keep HP in schools. Or are you going to claim that they aren't real Christians? Show me. Every Christian I know coming from whatever denomination is against Harry Potter. Musashi_Reborn A Christian who reads Harry Potter will NOT go to Hell (as you said earilier), but will receive greater judgment from God for reading books that contain witchcraft (amongst other sins) in them. The act of reading Harry Potter or any witchcraft alone will not send you to hell. To read one or the other is not bringing greater judement upon yourself. Musashi_Reborn By your own statement, nothing but not accepting Jesus will cause a person to be lost. If that is the case then How exactly is reading the fictional book wrong? Not knowing Jesus is the only sin that keeps you out of Heaven. No sin is good, but once you've accepted Jesus, then God deals with the other sins, for greatest sin has been taken care of. In the case of Harry Potter, reading it is wrong because it contains witchcraft and other such material that is contrary to God. Am I saying that everything that is not about God is sinful? No, but God makes it clear in the Bible that we are not to participate in witchcraft in any forms. Tangled Up In Blue The books are getting American kids to read. That alone is enough for me to say that they're 'good' Hey, Satan will do whatever he can to make his work look good. If we want to get American kids to read, we should get them reading the Bible. Now...I'm pretty much done with the Guild. Nobody bother responding to my points in this thread. I'm not going to say any more because I've made myself quite clear. Harry Potter is of the Devil.
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:59 am
mistressofthelost Christians are also fighting to keep HP in schools. Or are you going to claim that they aren't real Christians? Quote: Show me. Every Christian I know coming from whatever denomination is against Harry Potter. I'm not against it, and I'm non denominational for the record, and there appears to be other Chrstians in this guild that aren't as well. I don't see a problem with movies or books that depict "imaginary sorcery", doesn't weight my conscience with guilt- because I know these things aren't real. But then again, I'm not the type of person to playa violent video game and go gun down my school either......I can clearly draw a line between fiction and non fiction, and I'm most likley not alone. Quote: In the case of Harry Potter, reading it is wrong because it contains witchcraft and other such material that is contrary to God. Where, in the bible, does it say that reading a book with witchcraft in it is a sin? All the scriptures I have seen say not to "practice" sorcery or witchcraft. If reading a story that contained witchcraft in itself was bad, then there are stories within the bible that surely must be skipped over, as they contain tales of sorcery as well. Never mind, that the bible's witchcraft and the witchcraft and wizardry perofrmed in the Harry Potter books are two completely different entities. Quote: Am I saying that everything that is not about God is sinful? No, but God makes it clear in the Bible that we are not to participate in witchcraft in any forms. Reading a story, set in a world of magical creatures and wonder, is not hte same as invoking dark spirits and devoting allegiance to dark powers. Quote: Now...I'm pretty much done with the Guild. Nobody bother responding to my points in this thread. I'm not going to say any more because I've made myself quite clear. Harry Potter is of the Devil. If you're done with this thread, than what will it bother with people posting their opinions in regards to what you have said? It's not as if you're the only person in this guild with an opinion that matters. Other people will discuss these points, even if you choose to leave the conversation.
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:21 pm
Quote: Show me. Every Christian I know coming from whatever denomination is against Harry Potter. Okay. *raises hand* I'm for Harry Potter. Quote: The act of reading Harry Potter or any witchcraft alone will not send you to hell. To read one or the other is not bringing greater judement upon yourself. Sorry, what Bible are you reading? Last time I checked, our sins are forgiven, we are justified by Christ's blood, and He took the punishment for our sins. It's blasphemy to say that His sacrifice was not enough, and that we will be judged for the sins which He washed away on the cross. Quote: Now...I'm pretty much done with the Guild. Nobody bother responding to my points in this thread. I'm not going to say any more because I've made myself quite clear. Harry Potter is of the Devil. Sorry, this is a discussion thread, and your post will be considered. Whether or not you wish to continue debating is your prerogative. If you don't want your posts to be considered and rebutted, delete your post. From my perspective, people have been ignoring evidence that Scripture does not condemn the reading of FAKE witchcraft, and, if something is of the devil, the Holy Spirit generally lets Christians in on that fact, while many Christians in this thread are not convicted in the slightest, after prayerful consideration of the subject. ~Gilwen
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:02 pm
Wow, this thread's exploded in just a couple of hours...
Anyways. One thing to say that I can think of right off. If reading about *insert sin here* is sin, or is bad in general (which I don't get, how can you do something bad but not be sinning? anyways), wouldn't reading about the examples of sin in the Bible be sin, or bad?
As for a Christian fighting to keep HP in schools...uh HELLO! I would think nearly everyone who has posted in this thread falls under that catagory. Or do you believe that because we like and support Harry Potter that we're not Christians?
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:19 pm
Cometh The Inquisitor Holypimp Some old laws are not to be ignored....Like the laws of sexual impurity's but thats another debate all together....His point was if God from the beginning of time said witchcraft is bad...then maybe we should follow that law Right, so the laws that you don't like are the ones that get thrown away. I get it now. So, tell me, oh perfect interpreter of God's will, just which of all the old laws do we keep? Sorry I had to backtrack a little bit to answer your question. By what you say all old testament laws should be thrown out the window (your words not mine) So based on that no longer shall we use the ten commandments, no longer is it a sin to have sex outside of marriage,so now it is ok to hate your brother, do you see a problem here?
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:22 pm
before this debate gets going again..first can I ask how to send an invitation to a friend of mine to join this guild
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