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 Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:28 pm
Allegro ... I really don't understand what the last part means. I don't see how any town aligned role could cause me to be "next in the crosshairs" if you go down. It just sounds like you're promising your mafia buddies are gonna get me. And facts don't matter as much as you'd think, Zahmen, because nobody in this game has all of them. The mods do, but they can't play. Simple mathematics stay the same no matter who is observing them, Allegro. Unless there is a hidden role somewhere in there or some roles aren't being filled then my math is solid and you're still heading down the wrong road statistically speaking. Also that last bit meant that if I get voted off because you "swayed" people to vote for me and my role is revealed to be a good guy, it's going to make you look like mafia (even more than you are). ESPECIALLY when it's recalled that "Hey that Zahmen guy was actually making valid logistical points in his defense and Allegro just ignored them". I recommend withdrawing your vote and any kill you may have worked up at me for this round. How are you justifying going against the f probability AND ignoring the rational and reasonable explanation as to why I haven't outright role-claimed?
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:30 pm
Allegro Zahmen, as Seph said, you could be lying. And, in fact, you are. An innocent Townie would have made a concrete claim by now. What do you have to lose if you roleclaim as Janus or a vanilla townie? nothing. They don't have active abilities, just as you said! So why are you being so reticent! Because you're a bad guy. Yeah, maybe it was initially a bit of a leap, but your reactions have been nothing but irrational from a town standpoint. I'd like to act all cool and knowledgeable and say something like "I was wondering when someone would bring that up." Instead, I'll give my honest answer: How in the ******** did I not see that? To add to it, Zahmen's own answer is a simple "NO U" with a badly reasoned "here's something that I'm going to say you're doing in the face of evidence to the exact opposite and hope people believe it." Vote Zahmen.I've played as mafia enough times to know when you're grasping at straws.
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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:31 pm
Half an hour.
Btw Zahmen you can't edit posts. You are welcome to double, triple, quadruple, quintuple post, etc., but editing is a no-no.
EDIT: these rules don't apply to mods trololololol
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:33 pm
Wantcookie Allegro Zahmen, as Seph said, you could be lying. And, in fact, you are. An innocent Townie would have made a concrete claim by now. What do you have to lose if you roleclaim as Janus or a vanilla townie? nothing. They don't have active abilities, just as you said! So why are you being so reticent! Because you're a bad guy. Yeah, maybe it was initially a bit of a leap, but your reactions have been nothing but irrational from a town standpoint. I'd like to act all cool and knowledgeable and say something like "I was wondering when someone would bring that up." Instead, I'll give my honest answer: How in the ******** did I not see that? To add to it, Zahmen's own answer is a simple "NO U" with a badly reasoned "here's something that I'm going to say you're doing in the face of evidence to the exact opposite and hope people believe it." Vote Zahmen.I've played as mafia enough times to know when you're grasping at straws. Hm. Wait you mean last minute somebody swoops in, congratulates Allegro on his brilliant deductive reasoning and also votes for me? My gosh that is surprising. Also what is evidence to the exact opposite and is nobody going to answer my question of "Isn't coming out and saying role sort of frowned upon in mafia"? Because in every other mafia game I've ever played out of this guild it has been. Your entire wording makes my brain so full of ******** that if you hadn't redded the vote for me I wouldn't have even known you were saying something against me.
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:39 pm
Cabron LaSwan Half an hour.
Btw Zahmen you can't edit posts. You are welcome to double, triple, quadruple, quintuple post, etc., but editing is a no-no.
EDIT: these rules don't apply to mods trololololol Kay!
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:41 pm
Zahmen II Wantcookie Allegro Zahmen, as Seph said, you could be lying. And, in fact, you are. An innocent Townie would have made a concrete claim by now. What do you have to lose if you roleclaim as Janus or a vanilla townie? nothing. They don't have active abilities, just as you said! So why are you being so reticent! Because you're a bad guy. Yeah, maybe it was initially a bit of a leap, but your reactions have been nothing but irrational from a town standpoint. I'd like to act all cool and knowledgeable and say something like "I was wondering when someone would bring that up." Instead, I'll give my honest answer: How in the ******** did I not see that? To add to it, Zahmen's own answer is a simple "NO U" with a badly reasoned "here's something that I'm going to say you're doing in the face of evidence to the exact opposite and hope people believe it." Vote Zahmen.I've played as mafia enough times to know when you're grasping at straws. Hm. Wait you mean last minute somebody swoops in, congratulates Allegro on his brilliant deductive reasoning and also votes for me? My gosh that is surprising. Also what is evidence to the exact opposite and is nobody going to answer my question of "Isn't coming out and saying role sort of frowned upon in mafia"? Because in every other mafia game I've ever played out of this guild it has been. Your entire wording makes my brain so full of ******** that if you hadn't redded the vote for me I wouldn't have even known you were saying something against me. I'm referring to the fact that you continue to claim he's ignoring solid facts when in fact he's built up a pretty damn good case against you using nothing but. You keep rambling on about how there's a 1/3 chance that you're mafia, but that's about as good a chance as anyone else. Normally I'd vote for no lynch on such chances. Role-reveal isn't frowned upon in a general sense of taboo, just in that it usually gets you killed. I'm fairly certain it's fairly easy to figure that one out on your own, and your lie looks pretty thin to me. Allegro's right when he says there's no reason whatsoever for you to be afraid of revealing your role if you're Janus or a Vanilla townie. This fact, for me, boosts your chances of being mafia a fair amount.
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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:48 pm
12 hours minutes remain.
Zahmen - 3
'Llegro - 1
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:48 pm
I'm pretty much done trying to argue reason with you folks.
But I see what you mean as far as the Role Claim thing goes so I'll go out on a limb.
I'm Janus, could the Scholar or somebody else target me so Nu doesn't kill my candy a**? Because right now he's the only way I get knocked out of the game since you can't eliminate me by lynching.
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:49 pm
Or at least, that's how I understood Janus's passive role. No forms of elimination except Nu and The Vengeful Lovers, that includes Lynching, right?
I mean, lynching is a form of elimination?
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:51 pm
I don't buy it for a second. You could have come up with that much earlier and saved yourself the pain. You're -invincible- to a lynch! Why would you be so defensive?
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:53 pm
Read my previous post about being unsure if I'm invincible to a lynch.
Also it's a good way to weed out people who are jumping to climb down other people's throats.
But hey, whoever the Scholar is: you're gonna start with someone, you may as well start with me!
What do you have to lose? I'm gonna get revealed as Janus anyways when the Lynch fails, but a target from you could save my skin from Nu and that'd be damn helpful.
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:55 pm
Seriously, Scholar, anybody.
Anybody.
Hell even a Mafia could take a swing at me I don't care just somebody freaking target me so I can not get ganked by Nu.
Also, I'm still suspicious as s**t of you Allegro, so you'd better hope that you're good at backtracking.
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:58 pm
2 minutes.
EDIT: OHH OH ONE MINUTE
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:00 pm
Unvote Allegro, Vote Zahmen
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:00 pm
End of day one.
OHHH THE SUSPENSE I almost want to wait another 10 to post the results
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