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 Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:23 pm
CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew Puh-lease.
I've had OCD all my life.
I've read the books. I take the medicine. I take the therapy. It is chemical.
What you're so hung up on, is that OCD can be helped with therapy. It can be treated with therapy and with medicine, I take both.
However, it is still caused by chemical imbalance. It is chemical, even though it can be treated without chemicals. You're welcome. Hyperbole. If it were chemical the therapy wouldn't be at all necessary. Reductionism is horrible. It can be fixed, most certainly, by psychoanalysis or individual psychological therapy- without the need for poison. A chemical imbalance that cannot be explained chemically and can be tuned without chemicals?
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child.Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert.
Proof?
@Lumanny: Give Freud a break. Yeah, a lot of his ideas don't hold up today. But he started from pretty much nothing, yeah?
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:24 pm
CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew Puh-lease.
I've had OCD all my life.
I've read the books. I take the medicine. I take the therapy. It is chemical.
What you're so hung up on, is that OCD can be helped with therapy. It can be treated with therapy and with medicine, I take both.
However, it is still caused by chemical imbalance. It is chemical, even though it can be treated without chemicals. You're welcome. Hyperbole. If it were chemical the therapy wouldn't be at all necessary. Reductionism is horrible. It can be fixed, most certainly, by psychoanalysis or individual psychological therapy- without the need for poison. A chemical imbalance that cannot be explained chemically and can be tuned without chemicals?
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child.Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert. It's not that simple to fix. Historically, psychologists have considered obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) a challenging disorder to treat, with significant numbers of patients failing to benefit from treatment. The heterogeneity of the population and the complexity of the disorder have been contributing factors. However, cognitive–behavioral treatments are showing great promise, particularly when delivered with pharmacotherapy and tailored to the unique characteristics of each OCD subtype.SourceWhy such a seemingly strong aversion to medication? You're not an expert on the subject, medication helps a lot with a large variety of disorders, no one here is saying that it should be taken as a substitute for therapy or without caution but you seem willing to deny something that could greatly help to increase the quality of life for an individual. Why is that?
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:28 pm
brainnsoup CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew Puh-lease.
I've had OCD all my life.
I've read the books. I take the medicine. I take the therapy. It is chemical.
What you're so hung up on, is that OCD can be helped with therapy. It can be treated with therapy and with medicine, I take both.
However, it is still caused by chemical imbalance. It is chemical, even though it can be treated without chemicals. You're welcome. Hyperbole. If it were chemical the therapy wouldn't be at all necessary. Reductionism is horrible. It can be fixed, most certainly, by psychoanalysis or individual psychological therapy- without the need for poison. A chemical imbalance that cannot be explained chemically and can be tuned without chemicals?
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child.Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert.
Proof?
@Lumanny: Give Freud a break. Yeah, a lot of his ideas don't hold up today. But he started from pretty much nothing, yeah?Can't I be two things? They're mostly right- imperfect but seldom far from ideal.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:34 pm
Semiremis CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew Puh-lease.
I've had OCD all my life.
I've read the books. I take the medicine. I take the therapy. It is chemical.
What you're so hung up on, is that OCD can be helped with therapy. It can be treated with therapy and with medicine, I take both.
However, it is still caused by chemical imbalance. It is chemical, even though it can be treated without chemicals. You're welcome. Hyperbole. If it were chemical the therapy wouldn't be at all necessary. Reductionism is horrible. It can be fixed, most certainly, by psychoanalysis or individual psychological therapy- without the need for poison. A chemical imbalance that cannot be explained chemically and can be tuned without chemicals?
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child.Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert. It's not that simple to fix. Historically, psychologists have considered obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) a challenging disorder to treat, with significant numbers of patients failing to benefit from treatment. The heterogeneity of the population and the complexity of the disorder have been contributing factors. However, cognitive–behavioral treatments are showing great promise, particularly when delivered with pharmacotherapy and tailored to the unique characteristics of each OCD subtype.SourceWhy such a seemingly strong aversion to medication? You're not an expert on the subject, medication helps a lot with a large variety of disorders, no one here is saying that it should be taken as a substitute for therapy or without caution but you seem willing to deny something that could greatly help to increase the quality of life for an individual. Why is that? Of course it's difficult- there is no easy fix. Simple enough as it follows the patterns of psychoneurosis but it's never easy. It's a simple enough thing- on an individual case basis it can be highly useful but when generalised it both undermines humanity and is at the rot that has left American Psychology intellectually impotent for decades. I am however expert.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:34 pm
CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew Puh-lease.
I've had OCD all my life.
I've read the books. I take the medicine. I take the therapy. It is chemical.
What you're so hung up on, is that OCD can be helped with therapy. It can be treated with therapy and with medicine, I take both.
However, it is still caused by chemical imbalance. It is chemical, even though it can be treated without chemicals. You're welcome. Hyperbole. If it were chemical the therapy wouldn't be at all necessary. Reductionism is horrible. It can be fixed, most certainly, by psychoanalysis or individual psychological therapy- without the need for poison. A chemical imbalance that cannot be explained chemically and can be tuned without chemicals?
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child.Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert.
Medication treats, but does not cure. Unless that experimental new brain surgery can actually do it, thre is no cure.Not at all, I wouldn't do something so very common. Psychotherapy is more than fit to correct any psychoneurosis.
That one I will let go, as Pschocotherapy vs. Psychaiarty is a Judgement call.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:36 pm
Lumanny the Space Jew CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew You're Welcome.
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child. Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert.
Medication treats, but does not cure. Unless that experimental new brain surgery can actually do it, thre is no cure.Not at all, I wouldn't do something so very common. Psychotherapy is more than fit to correct any psychoneurosis. Jolly good. We've stumbled far enough away from the topic at hand as is.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:38 pm
CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew Puh-lease.
I've had OCD all my life.
I've read the books. I take the medicine. I take the therapy. It is chemical.
What you're so hung up on, is that OCD can be helped with therapy. It can be treated with therapy and with medicine, I take both.
However, it is still caused by chemical imbalance. It is chemical, even though it can be treated without chemicals. You're welcome. Hyperbole. If it were chemical the therapy wouldn't be at all necessary. Reductionism is horrible. It can be fixed, most certainly, by psychoanalysis or individual psychological therapy- without the need for poison. A chemical imbalance that cannot be explained chemically and can be tuned without chemicals?
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child.Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert.
Proof?
@Lumanny: Give Freud a break. Yeah, a lot of his ideas don't hold up today. But he started from pretty much nothing, yeah?Can't I be two things? They're mostly right- imperfect but seldom far from ideal.
No, Freud was totally wrong about that one. I just like him for the stuff he did that still holds up, because those parts are genius.
CH1YO, GTFO troll.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:38 pm
CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew Puh-lease.
I've had OCD all my life.
I've read the books. I take the medicine. I take the therapy. It is chemical.
What you're so hung up on, is that OCD can be helped with therapy. It can be treated with therapy and with medicine, I take both.
However, it is still caused by chemical imbalance. It is chemical, even though it can be treated without chemicals. You're welcome. Hyperbole. If it were chemical the therapy wouldn't be at all necessary. Reductionism is horrible. It can be fixed, most certainly, by psychoanalysis or individual psychological therapy- without the need for poison. A chemical imbalance that cannot be explained chemically and can be tuned without chemicals?
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child.Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert.
Proof?
@Lumanny: Give Freud a break. Yeah, a lot of his ideas don't hold up today. But he started from pretty much nothing, yeah?Can't I be two things? They're mostly right- imperfect but seldom far from ideal.
But again: Proof? Source? Something?
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:40 pm
Lumanny the Space Jew CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew You're Welcome.
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child. Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert.
Proof?
@Lumanny: Give Freud a break. Yeah, a lot of his ideas don't hold up today. But he started from pretty much nothing, yeah?Can't I be two things? They're mostly right- imperfect but seldom far from ideal.
CH1YO, GTFO troll.His assumptions are often absurd but he holds quite true in principle. Wow, I'm scary when you're angry.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:40 pm
CH1YO Semiremis CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew Puh-lease.
I've had OCD all my life.
I've read the books. I take the medicine. I take the therapy. It is chemical.
What you're so hung up on, is that OCD can be helped with therapy. It can be treated with therapy and with medicine, I take both.
However, it is still caused by chemical imbalance. It is chemical, even though it can be treated without chemicals. You're welcome. Hyperbole. If it were chemical the therapy wouldn't be at all necessary. Reductionism is horrible. It can be fixed, most certainly, by psychoanalysis or individual psychological therapy- without the need for poison. A chemical imbalance that cannot be explained chemically and can be tuned without chemicals?
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child.Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert. It's not that simple to fix. Historically, psychologists have considered obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) a challenging disorder to treat, with significant numbers of patients failing to benefit from treatment. The heterogeneity of the population and the complexity of the disorder have been contributing factors. However, cognitive–behavioral treatments are showing great promise, particularly when delivered with pharmacotherapy and tailored to the unique characteristics of each OCD subtype.SourceWhy such a seemingly strong aversion to medication? You're not an expert on the subject, medication helps a lot with a large variety of disorders, no one here is saying that it should be taken as a substitute for therapy or without caution but you seem willing to deny something that could greatly help to increase the quality of life for an individual. Why is that? Of course it's difficult- there is no easy fix. Simple enough as it follows the patterns of psychoneurosis but it's never easy. It's a simple enough thing- on an individual case basis it can be highly useful but when generalised it both undermines humanity and is at the rot that has left American Psychology intellectually impotent for decades. I am however expert.
Claims of expertise mean nothing.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:40 pm
brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew You're Welcome.
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child. Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert.
Proof?
@Lumanny: Give Freud a break. Yeah, a lot of his ideas don't hold up today. But he started from pretty much nothing, yeah?Can't I be two things? They're mostly right- imperfect but seldom far from ideal.
But again: Proof? Source? Something?Jolly good. Psychoanalysis?
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:43 pm
brainnsoup CH1YO Semiremis CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew You're Welcome.
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child. Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert. It's not that simple to fix. Historically, psychologists have considered obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) a challenging disorder to treat, with significant numbers of patients failing to benefit from treatment. The heterogeneity of the population and the complexity of the disorder have been contributing factors. However, cognitive–behavioral treatments are showing great promise, particularly when delivered with pharmacotherapy and tailored to the unique characteristics of each OCD subtype.SourceWhy such a seemingly strong aversion to medication? You're not an expert on the subject, medication helps a lot with a large variety of disorders, no one here is saying that it should be taken as a substitute for therapy or without caution but you seem willing to deny something that could greatly help to increase the quality of life for an individual. Why is that? Of course it's difficult- there is no easy fix. Simple enough as it follows the patterns of psychoneurosis but it's never easy. It's a simple enough thing- on an individual case basis it can be highly useful but when generalised it both undermines humanity and is at the rot that has left American Psychology intellectually impotent for decades. I am however expert.
Claims of expertise mean nothing.Of course- but I do not like to let undue detractions go uncorrected. I can only at best oblige you to believe me, that and to ask that I may remain unslandered.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:43 pm
CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew You're Welcome.
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child. Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert.
Proof?
@Lumanny: Give Freud a break. Yeah, a lot of his ideas don't hold up today. But he started from pretty much nothing, yeah?Can't I be two things? They're mostly right- imperfect but seldom far from ideal.
But again: Proof? Source? Something?Jolly good. Psychoanalysis?
That was fun.
Got a link?
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:45 pm
brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO brainnsoup @CH1YO: You are either naturally argumentative, or the most succesful troll I have ever met. XD
Proof?
@Lumanny: Give Freud a break. Yeah, a lot of his ideas don't hold up today. But he started from pretty much nothing, yeah? Can't I be two things? They're mostly right- imperfect but seldom far from ideal.
But again: Proof? Source? Something?Jolly good. Psychoanalysis?
That was fun.
Got a link?Pardon me? A link to what? A study and practice?
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:46 pm
CH1YO brainnsoup CH1YO Semiremis CH1YO Lumanny the Space Jew You're Welcome.
Logical Fallacy.
Just because something is chemical doesn't mean it needs Chemicals to be treated. Chemicals can treat it. Therapy can treat it, too. And note that I say treat, not fix. Because OCD is chronic, it can never be cured, at least not with modern science, even when it's in remission.
I expect you to start checking your facts before you post from now on, child. Not fallacy- diagnosis. It's simple enough to fix- it's a psychoneurosis- medication of course never fixes a problem. Condescension works not where discussing with an expert. It's not that simple to fix. Historically, psychologists have considered obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) a challenging disorder to treat, with significant numbers of patients failing to benefit from treatment. The heterogeneity of the population and the complexity of the disorder have been contributing factors. However, cognitive–behavioral treatments are showing great promise, particularly when delivered with pharmacotherapy and tailored to the unique characteristics of each OCD subtype.SourceWhy such a seemingly strong aversion to medication? You're not an expert on the subject, medication helps a lot with a large variety of disorders, no one here is saying that it should be taken as a substitute for therapy or without caution but you seem willing to deny something that could greatly help to increase the quality of life for an individual. Why is that? Of course it's difficult- there is no easy fix. Simple enough as it follows the patterns of psychoneurosis but it's never easy. It's a simple enough thing- on an individual case basis it can be highly useful but when generalised it both undermines humanity and is at the rot that has left American Psychology intellectually impotent for decades. I am however expert.
Claims of expertise mean nothing.Of course- but I do not like to let undue detractions go uncorrected. I can only at best oblige you to believe me, that and to ask that I may remain unslandered.
If you're an expert you should have no problem proving your point.
If you want to keep your credibility, only post things that you can back up.
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