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It's been about a week now. I was honestly expecting more people to discuss Titania, but so it goes.

The next unit is FE9 Oscar, a favorite unit for many in that game (feel free to also discuss Titania retroactively if you want to, though; she deserved more love)

And as he's the third FE9 unit to be discussed, following him will be a stint into FE8.

Oscar? Havn't heard much abput him, but I know he's one of the best trifighter in,the FE games. But Titania is good, one of the best, but Oscar is really good too!

Ya! I hear you! Titania us awesome. And of course your right, Titana will rob EXP, but I have a habit of leveling up my units equaly, figured that out after The Dawn Brigades chapter with the black knight.

But also, the gameboy FE's I played were Fire Emblem, thw one witn Lyn, and Sacred Stones, So don't kbow Oscar that much.

Thought I'd say a bit about both Titania and Oscar. Even though it's pretty late for Titania.. >.<

Anyways here we go!

Ah.. Titania, there's just so much I like about her~

At first glance, most people would think she would be the Jeigen archetype. And while she is a Pre-promote unit, that is not the case here. In some respects she's more like Seth from Sacred Stones if anything. It just really depends if you plan on using her or not? Because everyone will have a particular preference. She will always remain strong in your team throughout FE9 once you give her the chance to. The only stat that's not very high at first is her speed, it's not necessarily bad, but you won't see her double any enemies once you reach the point of half of the game. Then much later in the game she'll improve in speed, and should be able to double most enemies.

Her other stats are fantastic however. And she's got really good resistance for a paladin! Counter isn't exactly a suitable skill for Titania, it's just not that great of a skill quite honestly. It's not a horrible skill because it can be useful for other characters that can take a lot of damage like maybe Boyd, or Gatrie or something along those lines. I'll usually try the Adept/Guard or adept/resolve combo since it can help quite a bit since she's not the type to double the enemy later on in the game. Plus she'll become a total beast when she's low on Hp. If you've got an extra occult scroll leftover, Sol is quite a nice skill for her to have.Titania is personally my favorite paladins besides Oscar, and I'll get to him in a little bit. xD

Personality wise~ Titania is the one that keeps the Greil Mercenaries together. She can be firm at times, but it's for the sake of the group. There are those moments in the game when she's sweet, kind, and very motherly. It certainly shows quite a bit in Mist's conversation. And I guess that's the side I like about her the most. Even when everyone is suffering through hard times, she tries to be supportive towards the others. As Tiki has mentioned, I also really loved the conversations with both Titania and Ike, they were such strong, emotional scenes. I also feel the same way about FE10, It was kind of disappointing on how they gave her less of a role in the game. I mean, it's true that she's still there and she's probably one of the better paladins in that game as well. Actually, a lot of members in the Greil mercenaries felt sort of dumbed down compared to FE9. I'm going off topic here, point is I really like Titania. Okay, moving on to Oscar now~



Oscar is a basically a Lance Knight when you first get him. He's my favorite knight out of the other five knights/Paladins you get in the game besides Titania, of course. Oscar is the one I end up using in most of my playthroughs of the game. Actually, there's a lot of people who tend to stick with Oscar, since he's a very good unit with some pretty nice stats. He starts out quite well when you first get him in your team in chapter 1. His strength isn't exactly that high up there, but his fantastic speed and good skill makes up for it.

He is certainly helpful in the duration of the beginning of the game, being able to double most enemies plus he's got great movement being a lance knight. Also he has great availability unlike Makalov, Geoffrey, or Kieran, so you have plenty of time to level him up. I don't believe he comes with any skills at first? But I've always found the adept and resolve skill, or the Adept and Guard combo pretty good on him. Savior also proved to be pretty useful since you don't receive any penalties while rescuing a unit. But I suppose flyers might benefit that skill a bit more, but it can works very well with mounts.When he promotes you have the option of giving him either bows, swords, or axes. I tend to go with bows since he'll not only be able to do the triangle attack with Boyd and Rolf, but he can actually do some fair amount of damage against flying units.

Personality wise~ He's a really nice guy actually..(Even with his eyes being shut all the time like Brock from Pokemon lol) He's the independent/reliable one of the Greil mercenaries. Oscar is always on top of his duties, and he has to take care of his younger brothers both Rolf, and Boyd. That isn't exactly an easy task with all the strive they had to deal with, and them not having parents to help either.(Their mother is still around which is shown in an conversation in FE10) But I gotta say he's a really cool brother to take on so much responsibility, he's definitely got my respect. Oscar is also a fantastic cook! He even tries to teach Tanith how to cook, and that's saying something. xD

Ohh! So it was Rolf's mother in FE10. That scene does make a lot of sense now that I think about it a bit more.. Thanks for pointing that out, FD.

I haven't played FE10 in such a long time. xD

Great way to close, Tiki!

Thanks again for everyone's contributions and discussion. As Oscar is the third FE9 unit to have been discussed, we move onto another FE for a while: FE8.

Which means the current unit is Eirika. I'm anticipating strong sentiments.

Here's a topic I KNOW I can relate to. I've heard a lot of things about Eirika. A lot of them piss me off because people say that they should use Ephraim over her. I can somewhat agree to that because he gets more defensive and powerful, but that does not make a good unit. I've gone through Sacred Stones just using Eirika (it is hard as hell but doable.) and let me just say this: She can be good like Ephraim. It just takes a lot of patience and at times stat boosters.

That being said, I actually like Eirika as a unit. She gains speed, skill, and some power to help her out. Where she lacks in HP and defense she has in the speed so sure she is a bit of a frail unit but she is like a myrmidon. Add on the fact she promotes and gains a mount? She can be one great unit even with her own personal weapon. Come endgame she can easily sweep through the ending units without much problem. Just make sure you have an elixir on standby because if she does take damage it will most likely be really painful.

Personality wise she has good intentions. She wants to help out her country and bring back peace. How she goes about with this is another story. She helps out against the bandits that show up. She fights for her people just like her brother. She even goes off to search for him because their kingdom is lost. She has the right path but she gets blinded after sometime when she runs into her old friend. Long story short? She falls for the tricks of the big bad enemy.

The part that bugs me the most? Yes her supports don't make her seem like that good of a person. Maybe she's more ... I guess I'd say naive possibly. But this shouldn't be a reason to not use her. I've had a lot of time with FE8 and I like the game a lot. It's fun when I need something familiar to play and have fun with. She is a noble person but she has her quirks just like all the other nobles!

Can we talk? I have a bit of a rant to go on, so bear with me. Here at FEF, when Mel was running her Best/Worst thread, in explicitly saying that the characters were being judged as units, not for their personality, Eirika somehow won “Worst Lord”. It’s kinda bullshit. Say what you will about Eirika as a character, as a Lord, she’s essentially an improved version of Lyn (who got no votes for worst, by the way). Let’s just look at their growths and stats to get an idea:

Lyn:
HP: 70% Str: 40% Skl: 60% Spd: 60% Lck: 55% Def: 30% Res: 20%
Eirika:
HP: 70% Str: 40% Skl: 60% Spd: 60% Lck: 60% Def: 30% Res: 30%

Remarkably similar, aren’t they? Except for, you know, Eirika beating out Lyn in a couple of areas by small margins; which literally makes her a stronger version. Yet people were saying things like “Her str is abysmal, at best” (Roy also has a 40% Str growth; the only complaint he seemed to get was promotion time). Then there’s the fact that she has a better affinity than Lyn (same boosts with the difference that Eirika boosts Defense while Lyn boosts the occasionally-useful-at-best Crit. Avoid stat). And she supports this guy Seth. You may have heard of him. Usually, the titles “best FE8 character”, “best prepromote” and the occasional “best unit in all of FE” get thrown around with his name. Supporting that guy (for full Attack and Defense, no less) probably counts as something in her favor, too. How Eirika won Worst Lord will perpetually boggle my mind. Is it because she’s in an easier game? That merely makes her performance comparatively stronger, if perhaps less impressive. Is it because if you do Ephraim’s route, she might be under leveled by the time you get her back and unready to promote when she’s able to? Even with that in mind, she should be able to get her act together and promote sooner than certain other Lords with more time left in her game. Or you could promote her early and she should still do fine. Or you could send her in a skirmish or the tower if that’s your thing. With every possible thing you can count against her, she’s STILL far from the worst, or even second or third worst Lord in the series objectively. I’m convinced she won Worst Lord just because people don’t like her character and that bias transcribed itself into their opinions of her performance. That and so many people participated in that thread having very little objective experience with the entirety of the series. 2-3 titles hardly gives one any experience to effectively discuss the extremities of the series, sorry. At any rate, Eirika is hardly the worst Lord in the series.

With that out of the way, I’ll get to Eirika’s performance in FE8 itself. It’s a bit tricky since it depends on whether you go with her or Ephraim, though.

She has potentially perfect availability depending on whether you follow her or Ephraim, but even if you go Ephraim’s route, she’d still have roughly about the same number of chapters as Joshua (and still more than Ephraim – although the caliber of chapters as you progress makes this number seem equitable to them when it’s not). Even going with Ephraim, you can’t exactly knock her for availability. At best it’s perfect, at worst, it’s still good. But obviously Eirika is going to perform better if you stick with her. Even with her growths available for viewing, a lot of people seem to think she doesn’t have particularly impressive stats; to give you an idea of her competence, she has more Str than Joshua, and grows at the same pace as Franz in Str and ties for the third highest Speed growth (and two of the people ahead include Tethys and Myrhh – both in classes with bloated growths in particular areas). She’s a perfectly good infantry unit with a Rapier that helps eliminate all sorts of troublesome enemies. And even if you go Ephriam’s route, that Rapier alone lets her remain competent against a plethora of enemies once she comes back. Being able to use a Rapier is a pretty big deal, to be clear, even if other weapons can mimic parts of its effects. Since it’s exclusively her weapon in FE8, it’s a pretty big boon for her. That she gets a second one in her own route allows you to be pretty liberal with its use, as well.

Sieglinde is also a pretty awesome weapon for her, and lets someone else use the Audhulma. It’ll boost her strength by 5 in addition to its awesome mt but costs 4 speed. Look at Eirika’s growths. Giving up 4 points from her excellent speed for her much more average Strength is a pretty good deal, as she’s fast enough that it won’t stop her from doubling; a very good trade-off, especially because she has quite a few chapters to use it for. With Sieglinde, even if she’s underleveled in Ephraim’s route, she can catch up decently and remain a threat because 1) it’s that good of a weapon anyway, and 2) a lot of the remaining maps are with monsters for enemies and Sieglinde tears them up. Between the Rapier and Sieglinde, she’s covering a LOT of enemies. It really doesn’t matter if people think her offense is lousy, which so many seem to for some inexplicable reason. Her weapons cover a lot of ground that make even bad offense good.

As a support unit, she’s fortunate enough to have an affinity that boosts raw Attack and Defense and having more options to choose from than anyone other than Ephraim who has the same number. She and Seth both really want their support to happen because it’s extremely fast and makes them both better in concrete ways. If going Eirika’s route, she has a variety of options to fit most playstyles. If one is going Ephraim’s route, however, it can be hard to justify her supports. Except that Innes and Saleh will be joining with her and both are competent units if you’re going for completely efficient supports (and if you’re not, you’re going to do whatever you want anyway, so it really doesn’t matter). But holy s**t, supporting the best character in the game, and being his fastest support option with very good stat boosts alone is a huge boon for her. It makes her Seth’s first choice and means she’s making Seth better. Like her or not, it’s a good selling point for her, especially since she’s required for various chapters (or every chapter, route depending).

As a character, …eh. Not a fan of Eirika and I can get why so many people dislike her, even if they take her criticisms of her character into criticisms of her as a unit. She’s got a lot of Mary Sue going on, certainly. Her going after her brother in Grado is stupid and King Hayden shouldn’t have allowed for it, point-blank. It’s just unreasonable. The fact that she ends up ******** things up for Ephraim really says it all, but everyone will ignore that because she’s Eirika. She’s a pretty generic princess Lord character. Don’t get me wrong, she’s not characterized poorly for what she is, it’s just that what that is isn’t particularly exciting. Caring-to-a-fault allegedly ‘strong’ female lead. Whatever.

Not a fan of her as a character, but she’s a perfectly good unit. You could do much worse, and the series most definitely has. Maybe people think she's worse than she is because she's in the same game as Ephraim. I don't know. But Ephraim being better (in-game, mind you, post-game, she has the better caps) doesn't make her bad.