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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:18 pm
Man, you hit it dead on; I totally and 100% agree. No, it isn't right to hate them, it's not right to hate anybody, for in the Bible it says to hate a man in your heart is to murder him.
As a side note, thank you for calling them homosexuals, for that is what they are. I used the term "gay" around my father one day and he became upset. I asked him why, and he replied with "They're not gay! Virtually everyone of them that I have met has had a major life problem (obviously) and has been downright nasty." Granted, not all homosexuals are mean people, but the fact is GAY MEANS HAPPY, AND THE RAINBOW WAS AND IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE GOD'S PROMISE!!!. It disgusts me that they use it as "their" symbol.
I was told by a visiting pastor at our school that we have been silent Christians long enough. Homosexuality is wrong. As my father says: Love the sinner, hate the sin.
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:47 am
~Kinoshta-san~ Man, you hit it dead on; I totally and 100% agree. No, it isn't right to hate them, it's not right to hate anybody, for in the Bible it says to hate a man in your heart is to murder him. True. Quote: As a side note, thank you for calling them homosexuals, for that is what they are. True. Quote: I used the term "gay" around my father one day and he became upset. I asked him why, and he replied with "They're not gay! Virtually everyone of them that I have met has had a major life problem (obviously) and has been downright nasty." False. Homosexuality (Gay-ness) is an innate, unchangeable trait, and is not connected to traumatic events. Also, it's quite probable that all the gay people your father met treated him nastily because hew kept insisting they weren't gay? rolleyes http://www.godmademegay.com/letter.htm <-Read this. Sexuality and Choice- Wikipedia on Sexual Orientation - Gay Men Respond Differently to Pheremones- Gay Men's Brains Found Different- The Homosexual Brain- APA on Homosexuality- Reuters: Gene Alters Sexuality of Fruit Flies- Cell: Fruit Fly Experiment- Homosexuality-A Natural Cause?- A Difference in Hypothalmic Structure Between Heterosexual and Homosexual Men (study published in Science, 253: 1034-1037, 1991) - NewScientist.com: Pheromone attracts straight women and gay men- Sexuality Is Not A Choice- APA On Sexuality- Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture- Twin Studies of HomosexualityQuote: Granted, not all homosexuals are mean people, but the fact is GAY MEANS HAPPY, LYKONGZ, BALL MEANS A PARTY. WE SHOULD CALL ALL SPORTS EQUIPMENT EXERCISE SPHERES. Words change. That's life. Live with it. Quote: AND THE RAINBOW WAS AND IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE GOD'S PROMISE!!!. It disgusts me that they use it as "their" symbol. ...You mean God's promise of love? o_O Everything is God's symbol. God made EVERYTHING, indirectly if not directly. The rainbow is just another hint that we will not be silent. We EXIST, stop ignoring us. Quote: I was told by a visiting pastor at our school that we have been silent Christians long enough. Homosexuality is wrong. As my father says: Love the sinner, hate the sin. =D I detest that philosophy. Humans are stereotyping creatures. It is impossible for us to associate a person with a sin and still treat the two entities separately, and when condemnation of the person or acceptance of the sin occurs, one of you WILL be left worse off. If you don't like what someone is doing, ignore them.
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:49 pm
Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori We EXIST, stop ignoring us. If you don't like what someone is doing, ignore them. Sorry, this is very random and only a bit off topic, but I found this rather amusing. ^.^
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:02 am
Before I go on with subject matter I'd like to say hi. I'm obviously not a member so I'm trying the place out to see how I like it first. Thank you for keeping it open. Ventrisida Alright my opinion...Yes it IS a sin however I believe that they have no choice on becoming gay or bi or whatever. It really isnt there fault to feel that way HOWEVER if they are and know it is a sin they can push back all the feelings they have. It will depress them for a while but because they arent sinning God will help rid the feelings. Some christiands or non christians howver who know its a sin doint care bcause the feeling is so deep tht they sin anyways.. I dont exactly agree on homosexuality however I respect them and think they should have the same rights as we do. It is a sin but sometimes they just cant fight against it. I completely understand what you are trying to say, but we ALL struggle with some form of sin and/or constantly tempted to do other things that are against God. Sin is sin. The problem when it comes to sexual sins is that it corrupts the soul while others have more outward affects for instance people who love torturing and/or killing others. These folks are labeled as psychos and locked away for the harm they will do to society if free because they seemingly can't control themselves. We all have a sin nature that we knew before God so it's true sometimes (with some people more than others) we end up wallowing in it. (see Romans 7:19) Can we help ourselves? No, I don't think so since after all we can't save ourselves that's why Christ died and that's why we have our brothers and sisters in Christ to (hopefully) lean on to help with those problems. People who don't want to be saved can't be saved and people who don't want help can't be helped- it all comes down to the deep down desires of the heart something that only God can clearly see and judge.
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:03 pm
People who lived 1800 years ago during the time of the creation of the first bible knew that by staying clean they could stay healthier longer just as people before them had also known. So what happens when someone gets sick...more people get sick? And back in those days...if you got sick there wasn't much help for you. So if someone was unclean and thus got sick and thus got everyone else sick then the town would have a problem with all sorts of people dieing. So what is the root of the problem? Disease. Back then people lacked the knowledge to heal the sick that we have today. So they couldn't put a stop to disease. So climbing up the chain one link we come to the unclean person who had first contracted the disease. How could a population stop the disease? Make sure no one was unclean. And how would they do that? by creating laws perhaps? so is being unclean wrong or are the acts that would lead to someone becoming unclean wrong. for those who are having a bit of trouble the answer is "being unclean". So if someone is unclean and then becomes clean again we have no problem. So what was the problem with homosexual acts or any other act that might lead to becoming unclean and/or compromise the heath of one person (be creative...the list is long) and thus the heath of everyone around them? Back in the day bathing was a once in a while chore and thus is you were dirty...you stayed dirty for some time (ewww). So what is different about today’s world? I would hope people shower or something at least once a day. So if someone becomes unclean they take a shower...problem solved.
So lets see what we have learned
Why are male babies circumcised? Is it…
A) An act of sexual repression B) Gods will C) Some crazy ritual that some old dead guy started just for giggles D) To help keep people clean thus decreasing disease
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:52 am
Masterful Bunny Leo Purified Ace Renny Wenny Chaos_Angel15 Ok. To be gay is a sin. The Bible says that we should not practice it. Plus, it's just down right disgusting. If you are a christian and you become gay, you still still go to Heaven. When you are a christian, you are always a christian. =_=......Wow...now THIS is why I am an Atheist Whoa, Chaos_Angel, hold your horses, friend. I really don't mean to get off topic, but this really needs to be addressed. What I get from Chaos's post is the concept of "Once saved, always saved." This is just not true. It is possible to fall from grace. Want scrip not lip? Okie day. Galatians 5:4 "You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace." Yes my friend, God gave us free will, the ability to make our own choices, but that little ability gets us in trouble from time to time. Sorry about getting off topic, but I just had to address that... Whoa whoa, hold your horses friend, once saved always saved is a true concept, what you have to worry about is who is truly saved.
Rom 8:39 "Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Joh 10:29 "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand."
...ok...so, what your telling me is these verses cancel out Gal 5:4? I'm not seeing how the verses you gave make Gal 5:4 any less true.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:08 am
Sienna Wolf Chaos_Angel15 Ok. To be gay is a sin. The Bible says that we should not practice it. Plus, it's just down right disgusting. If you are a christian and you become gay, you still still go to Heaven. When you are a christian, you are always a christian. =_=......Wow...now THIS is why I am an Atheist I think both of these comments were harsh. We need to remember to respect everyone. its a discussion, not an argument. If you think it's disgusting please i know you want to say it, but it shouldn't be said We do have gay members who want to know that we have support for them. We need to love everyone. And to be atheist is accepted here, but it does almost seem like a flame on us the way you say that. Many different religions have different interpretations of homosexuality. Although it IS stated many times that its wrong. I don't believe we have the right to tell anyone else that they are sinning. We all sin, and no sin is better or worse than any other. People should be free to live and love how they want, and if they know the consequences then they can work it out. I know everyone feels differently.
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:07 pm
I dis agree homosexuaLITY FOR A CHRISTIANS IS NOT ALOWWED THAT IS A TERRIBLE SIN AND GOD MEANT FOR MAN TO BE WITH WOMEN AND SAMES AS WOMAN WITH MAN. IT STATES IN THE BIBLE NOT TO BE A f** OR A HOMO
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:39 am
knuckles9585 I dis agree homosexuaLITY FOR A CHRISTIANS IS NOT ALOWWED THAT IS A TERRIBLE SIN AND GOD MEANT FOR MAN TO BE WITH WOMEN AND SAMES AS WOMAN WITH MAN. IT STATES IN THE BIBLE NOT TO BE A f** OR A HOMO It's ok to state your opinion, but please try not to use offensive names like "f**" or "homo" we do have members here who are homosexual.
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:06 am
Ok here is my take. Homosexuality is a choice that no person can really make. You're either attracted to the opposite sex or not. Though I've got to wonder, and I know I'm going catch flak for this. Why would it not be ok if the male prostrate be where it is or the female version where it is?
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:36 pm
It is a sin, but Christians should not hate gay people because God doesn't hate them. God loves them, he just doesn't like what they do because it is sinful.
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:49 pm
Amakda [...]Though I've got to wonder, and I know I'm going catch flak for this. Why would it not be ok if the male prostrate be where it is or the female version where it is? I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean by this. The male and female genetalia are designed like a lock and key. Two locks won't unlock one another, two keys won't do anything. What's okay or not okay because of our design: homosexuality?
From a reproductive standpoint--remember kids we were designed to go forth and multiply--homosexuality is illogical. It does not continue a bloodline or a surname, it doesn't create babehs at all. Then we throw in love. It kicks logic out the window without so much as a 'how do you do?'. God loves us, God is love. We might not agree with choices a person has made, or even the person making the choices, but as God loves we love. That's all there really is to it for me. When I fall completely, honestly, truly in love, I'll know that it's God-ordained regardless of who (man, woman, of any nationality as well) it is that I love.
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