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 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:09 pm
Not to mention that ya'll have had -personal-, name-in-title, hate threads before. 3nodding
Nothing personal, but it is the truth.
I heart my hate thread.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:16 pm
I.Am Not to mention that ya'll have had -personal-, name-in-title, hate threads before. 3nodding Nothing personal, but it is the truth. I heart my hate thread. Where is this? Oh man, you must be like a top-ranked pro-lfer to have your own thread whee .
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:28 pm
Master Kaiser I.Am Not to mention that ya'll have had -personal-, name-in-title, hate threads before. 3nodding Nothing personal, but it is the truth. I heart my hate thread. Where is this? Oh man, you must be like a top-ranked pro-lfer to have your own thread whee . Psh. It's not really my own thread, though, I have to share it with Kate. xd It was a bit ago... Just went through their forum. Page 8 of their forums, there's a thread called "I.Am and Lymelady" I don't know, are we allowed to link to that? Anyone can PM me for it if they care to.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:33 pm
Know what's hilarious? I remember being all pissed off when she first posted that... And now, going through it, I get this delicious "Woo!" feeling. xd
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:36 pm
I like the feeling. I don't debate though. I preferto be the one who sits on the side lines and simply watches and laughs at it all. Its getting esier to tell when a debate thread will go form intelligent to " Abortion=/=murder" and other crap they can't back up.
EMO RAPE!
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:10 pm
Giving you and FYI. There's another one coming that even I think is stupid. I honestly think it's worse than the others.
"I'm not stating any particular opinion on the subject.. yet.. but I just wanted to share one glorious little fact with you all.
Which would you save?
A mother cow's life will end if she gives birth to her calf. The mother could die, and the calf could live. Or both could die..
Which one would you save?
FACT: Farmers choose to save the adult cow's life by cutting up the calf while still inside the mother, then pulling it out piece by piece.
Didn't mean to gross you out, but it's true.. and it kinda fits eh?"
"They know that a living cow is more useful than a dead cow and a motherless calf--or a dead cow and a dead calf.
Funny, how people will care more about a cow than a person."
"*discussion to avoid getting another thing deleted* It's not really that stupid. A dead cow in exchange for a weak baby cow is a poor replacement. Replace cow with human, and it's the same thing--then add the loss of a woman to a family and friends"
I even pointed out to them how stupid that was. Because don't a wide bulk of you appove of an abortion if the mother has a high risk of dying?
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:15 pm
Vivnox Giving you and FYI. There's another one coming that even I think is stupid. I honestly think it's worse than the others. "I'm not stating any particular opinion on the subject.. yet.. but I just wanted to share one glorious little fact with you all. Which would you save? A mother cow's life will end if she gives birth to her calf. The mother could die, and the calf could live. Or both could die.. Which one would you save? FACT: Farmers choose to save the adult cow's life by cutting up the calf while still inside the mother, then pulling it out piece by piece. Didn't mean to gross you out, but it's true.. and it kinda fits eh?" "They know that a living cow is more useful than a dead cow and a motherless calf--or a dead cow and a dead calf. Funny, how people will care more about a cow than a person." "*discussion to avoid getting another thing deleted* It's not really that stupid. A dead cow in exchange for a weak baby cow is a poor replacement. Replace cow with human, and it's the same thing--then add the loss of a woman to a family and friends" I even pointed out to them how stupid that was. Because don't a wide bulk of you appove of an abortion if the mother has a high risk of dying? Yeah, that is a pretty stupid argument. I would say that, with few exceptions, almost all Pro-Lifers are for abortion in cases like that. There are a few people who are pacifists in all cases, and believe that you shouldn't kill anyone no matter who dies because of it (I.E., they won't even fight in self defense.)
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:17 pm
I'm just gonna be sad if one of them uses it. It's the worst one in my opinion.
By the way. I made a reply to your comment in my thread I.Am. Anyone in here who wants to add anything go right ahead.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:46 pm
Vivnox Giving you and FYI. There's another one coming that even I think is stupid. I honestly think it's worse than the others. "I'm not stating any particular opinion on the subject.. yet.. but I just wanted to share one glorious little fact with you all. Which would you save? A mother cow's life will end if she gives birth to her calf. The mother could die, and the calf could live. Or both could die.. Which one would you save? FACT: Farmers choose to save the adult cow's life by cutting up the calf while still inside the mother, then pulling it out piece by piece. Didn't mean to gross you out, but it's true.. and it kinda fits eh?" "They know that a living cow is more useful than a dead cow and a motherless calf--or a dead cow and a dead calf. Funny, how people will care more about a cow than a person." "*discussion to avoid getting another thing deleted* It's not really that stupid. A dead cow in exchange for a weak baby cow is a poor replacement. Replace cow with human, and it's the same thing--then add the loss of a woman to a family and friends" I even pointed out to them how stupid that was. Because don't a wide bulk of you appove of an abortion if the mother has a high risk of dying? Another problem wiht this argument is that they are trying to compare cows to humans. SOmthign extremly ridicules. Humans are more important than cows because a human is...well...a human. The festus, zygote, embyro, what ever stage its at, is a living human being scientificly. The cow is only live stock. Another problme here is that is the disition of the mother. So, that in its self makes the argument irrelevent. The mother, if her life is in danger, or if the baby's life is in danger, has every right to atempt to continue with the delivery. No one can forcibly kill the baby like the farmer does the calf. Lasty, it ignores the fact that a very large bulk of the pro-life comunity is for an abortion if it is to save some ones life. But, that too is also a rarity. A woman with small or weak hips can carrey the baby to a sertain age and have a C-section done. This rarity makes it nere irrelivent to the argument
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:05 am
Okay the latest stupid arguments I've heard.
1.
Choicer:"Its not a child"
Me:"Yes it is it says so in the dictionary"
Choicer:"You can only use the medical dictionary that we use"
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"The pro-life argument doesn't use and logic or facts only emotion and religion"
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"Don't use your personal beliefs to decide public policy"
1. Since when are we limited to what dictionary we can use?
2. Is just plain stupidity.
3. If we're not suppose to use our beliefs what are we suppose to use, what they tell us to do?
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:12 am
karllikespies Okay the latest stupid arguments I've heard. 1. Choicer:"Its not a child" Me:"Yes it is it says so in the dictionary" Choicer:"You can only use the medical dictionary that we use" 2. "The pro-life argument doesn't use and logic or facts only emotion and religion" 3. "Don't use your personal beliefs to decide public policy" 1. Since when are we limited to what dictionary we can use? 2. Is just plain stupidity. 3. If we're not suppose to use our beliefs what are we suppose to use, what they tell us to do? 1. Obviously we have to play by their rules. *points over at the rulebook which is in the hands of very large statue of a woman with the words 'pro-choice' at the base*. What they say, goes it seems. 2. It is, because we are all anti-women, anti-abortion religious nutcases. God forbid (oops, I used 'God' in my argument) that they actually take in some info, and stop screaming 'lie' at any signs of facts. 3. Again, the rulebook.
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:53 pm
Just thought of another one, well its really not an argument but its often used.
Often pro-choicers will use the term anti-choice, pro-fetuse, anti-abortion, when refering to pro-life position, yet when somone makes an equally as belittling comback such as pro-abortion or pro-death they throw a hissy fit. The thing is that all of those names are equally applicable to all sides, pro-lifers are against the choice to kill a child, we are for the fetuses right to live, and against abortion in casual cases; while pro-choicers are pro-abortion as they want to keep it legal, and are pro-death because they advocate the death of the child. The point is if you don't want to be called anything but pro-choice then return the curtosy and don't call us anything but pro-life.
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:24 pm
most annoying argument for me: It will ruin the mother's life. ... I find that personally insulting, being the mother of two young children. Interesting note: I had both of my children while in college, the second while working on my senior thesis. Currently I am in graduate school, and so is my husband. We also manage to do this without access to daycare or relatives or anyone nearby. Doesn't look like it's ruined my life. It doesn't ruin your body either. If it does, then it's because of other bad habits. I found that college prior to the kids was worse for my figure than the kids were (i.e., too much soda, junk food, general laziness, etc.).
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:32 pm
KasumiAngel most annoying argument for me: It will ruin the mother's life. ... I find that personally insulting, being the mother of two young children. Interesting note: I had both of my children while in college, the second while working on my senior thesis. Currently I am in graduate school, and so is my husband. We also manage to do this without access to daycare or relatives or anyone nearby. Doesn't look like it's ruined my life. It doesn't ruin your body either. If it does, then it's because of other bad habits. I found that college prior to the kids was worse for my figure than the kids were (i.e., too much soda, junk food, general laziness, etc.). Yeah, I don't want to marke a generalisation (even thoguh it would be a good one) but most woman seeme to take better care of them selves during and after pregnancy
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:49 pm
karllikespies Just thought of another one, well its really not an argument but its often used. Often pro-choicers will use the term anti-choice, pro-fetuse, anti-abortion, when refering to pro-life position, yet when somone makes an equally as belittling comback such as pro-abortion or pro-death they throw a hissy fit. The thing is that all of those names are equally applicable to all sides, pro-lifers are against the choice to kill a child, we are for the fetuses right to live, and against abortion in casual cases; while pro-choicers are pro-abortion as they want to keep it legal, and are pro-death because they advocate the death of the child. The point is if you don't want to be called anything but pro-choice then return the curtosy and don't call us anything but pro-life. I agree. This is interesting, I asked them if pro-choices mean supporting all choice how come they don't support adopt, this is what they said " it's not a choice for abortion or not" "the kids will be unhappy" "their racist" "it's better the kids die then have no home" not no supports it. so much for choice.
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