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Vajra B. Hairava

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:02 pm


I think that that person might be just trying to explain the difference between prepositions and postpositons. But I don't really know either.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:35 am


That might be it. I thought they were trying to explain the actual use of 'do' though. I asked the_haunted_boy, and he just told me to see it as a Korean version of 私も, or sometimes even と.

Are you learning Korean by the way? Care to recommend any learning sites? The ones I have at the moment aren't that great. I seriously think that the Japanese lessons you used to do were the best language lessons I've ever come across. I think I like it grammar orientated more than vocab and phrase-based, which is what I've been coming across a lot.

So... anyway. Start off a bit of Korean discussion.

What made you want to learn Korean?

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Vajra B. Hairava

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:54 am


I can't help you, I hardly know a lick of Korean. I dabbled a wee bit, but it just really didn't capture my interest. It would be conveinent if I was though, my university is infested with Koreans. And unfortunatley, hardly a Japanese person to be found!

By the way, some random Korean resources that looked decent to me. Weather they do you any good, I can't say.
http://www.learnkorean.com/lesson/kclassindex.asp
http://rki.kbs.co.kr/learn_korean/lessons/e_index.htm
http://korean.sogang.ac.kr/

And you know, it would probably be worth it to give up the 19£ or whatever for a Korean grammar book and dictionary, if you haven't already. With that stuff, all you need is the internet. Thats what I did with Japanese basically, and it worked pretty well.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:10 pm


Ooh, I like the first one!

I'm already using the second one, it's the best I can find at the moment, but thanks a lot anyway. The third one's alright, I'll use it for a bit of comparison.

I'm thinking of asking for a book on Korean grammar for my birthday, as it's coming quite soon. Do you know any languages series that are quite good for grammar? I'm kinda poor, so I can't afford to buy something which might not be too good. I've looked around my town, and the only Korean learning aid I found was a dictionary, which would probably be more useful after learning more of the basics.

Oh, and also, the £ sign comes before the number, like with $.

PS. maybe you should learn, so you can help me blaugh

Lawrencew
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Vajra B. Hairava

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:46 pm


Ah, but theres the sticky wicket. I intentionally put the $ after the amount, because we don't say "dollars 10", you say "10 dollars", so I write it as 10$. And I do the same thing for pounds.

You should get the dictionary. Maybe I'll look for a grammar book on the internets for you. I'm sure you could get a cheapo one for like 7£. I say that much, because I think the average american one would be about 15$, and as far as I can tell, 1£ equals 2$ approximatley, at least last time I was in England.

And I might learn Korean, after I am fluent in Japanese, Hindi, and Indonesian, and make some good progress in Swahili, Arabic, Icelandic, and Persian first. I'm afraid my schedule's full up. xp
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:29 pm


Wow, thanks. And the 10$ thing... >.<

I looked around on Amazon, but I'm just not too sure whether you can trust all the reviews, and whether it's really what I want. I really hope to get going with this though, before I lose motivation. Strike while the iron's hot, and if I get more confident in this, I'll probably continue with it. I sorta failed at Japanese sweatdrop I'm pursuing Mandarin and Korean instead - especially since if I reach fluency, I can look like a native sweatdrop

Good luck on your pursuits. I found out today that my friend understands Hindi and Punjabi as well as Urdu and Arabic!

Lawrencew
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Vajra B. Hairava

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:22 pm


Well, Hindi and Urdu are the same language, and Punjabi is pretty mutual intelligible with it, so thats not quite as amazing as you might think. Still neat though.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:09 pm


By the way, here are a bunch of various Korean resources. I have no idea if any of them are good, just putting it out there. The site in general is good too.

http://www.word2word.com/coursead.html#korean

Vajra B. Hairava


Lawrencew
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:20 pm


The link doesn't work for me crying

But thanks anyway.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:00 pm


Hey everyone again! I'm making a grid of conjugations for revision, and can anyone conjugate the following dictionary form verbs into the future polite form for me?

I will be eternally grateful:

작다
먹다
주다
공부하다
-아니다
-이다
있다
없다

감사합니다!

Lawrencew
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the_haunted_boy

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:51 am


A good website is:

www.koreanclass101.com
PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:56 pm


A good dictionary would be Oxford. They're the best for just about any language. 3nodding (Their advanced Japanese one sucks what with all the roumaji. gonk ) They have all sorts of grammar notes and things, even cultural notes in some.

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Lawrencew
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:53 am


Thanks for the advice. I think I'll get a dictionary when I'm a bit more confident in my grammar, because otherwise there'd be no point in knowing vocab. At this point, I sort of see vocab as 'fill in the gap words', where I can slot in once I've learned the grammar. Although, I think it'd be kinda useful to know some...

Just to keep you guys posted, my sister bought "Teach Yourself Korean" for me for my birthday. It should arrive in 3 days, hope it's good. Hopefully, I'll pick up some vocab off that.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:52 am


The teach yourself series uses roman script to teach. xp KLEAR would have been good.

That's why I like Oxford so much. They have grammar explanations, especially in their beginners' ones if you can find one for Korean.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:22 am


Does that mean you're learning Korean too? If you are, would you like to practice with me? I find that learning something with someone else helps me to learn better.

I heard that the revised editions of 'Teach Yourself Korean' have incorporated Hangeul into their books.

What's KLEAR? Can you give me the link to some good books then?

Also, I have a question.

What's the difference between using:

입니다 and 이에요?
갑니다 and 가요?

etc.

EDIT: Do you guys thing I need to learn any 한자 readings? I realise it's still taught in S. Korean schools, but it doesn't seem to be very prevalent there, apart from in Headlines, or for clarification.
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