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I wonder what true rune holders will return if any or will there be all new ones?
But as all other Suikoden games there will be something about bestfriends and either one dies or betrays the other S1 dies S2 betray(to an extent he did what he thought was best but still), S3 dies S4 betray. that is enough for a pattern so will it continue in five?

Well, considering the fact that Suikoden banks on the death of someone 'close' to become the catalyst for carrying out the final move (to fulfill destiny?), it wouldn't be unexpected if the same thing happens for all the future Suikodens. However boring it sounds though, it's always refreshing to see how they twist it around to make one death 'different' from the other.



Pray tell, what is a Phero Rune? I can't seem to remember ever seeing it in Suikoden I at the moment, but maybe that's because I haven't replayed it in a long time. Care to enlighten me? biggrin

The Phero Rune was one FREAKING hard rune to get. You could only get it from the Beast Masters (the purple tailed ladies that control the squirrels) in and around the Rikon area (I think that is the name...been a while...the area south of the Gregminster Gate; the area you spend a good portion of the first half of the game in razz ). Theoredically, you can get it at ANY point--it is a dropped item. The problem comes in that it can ONLY be found from one of the Beast Masters, and it has like a horendous 5% chance of dropping...or less...somewhere in there.

What it does, you ask? The opposite sex will defend the bearer. From what I gather, this includes the enemy...which is REALLY weird...I wanted to see if this part was true, but because of the rarity, I was never able to. The purpose of it was to protect the bearer from damage--as the bearer would have to either be in a party of the same sex, be the last female/male standing, or be in a battle of all female/males. I have a feeling it was a joke from Konami razz .

By any means, I think it would have been fun to play around with; and I sure think it would explain Jillia. hehe

SpineRaker: Well, that certainly explains why I've never heard of the Phero Rune before. Many thanks for clearing that up for me. biggrin



However, despite the death of the "said character" (refer to above post to read spoilers for those who are wondering who this character is), one has to keep in mind that Riou himself wasn't very close to this character in the first place.

Riou has never been close to those under him- true, he cares for their wellbeing and such, but other than that, he has never been linked to them emotionally. Plus, we also are aware of the fact that in war, people -do- die. Thus, this character's death, despite seeming to be a rather large sacrifice, is actually no different from other generals who have lost their lives in the battlefield.

Yes, he did die for the sake of giving Riou a fair shot at Matilda (it's Matilda, right? Not Muse), but his death is only amplified by the fact that it is the only one to be mentioned and to be dwelled upon for more than er- 15 seconds, with music to boot.

On the other hand, Nanami, who has been by Riou's side ever since he can remember, is so close to him that they can almost be taken as kin. Riou, despite being a quiet character, does have feelings of remorse, and he takes out these feelings by venting it upon Jowy and Highland. He knows very well that he can't take it out on his own troops, so he only had one option left: to charge forward and to defeat Highland. In fact, it could be that his decision to attack L'Renouielle (sp?) was driven on the fact that he felt too guilty of Nanami's death and wanted some way to justify her death.

Yes, I would like a Suikoden 5 and a large fries please! wink

no real spoilers really... just general detail. after all, we really don't know much about it yet other than the settings.

need suikoden 5 now *has withdraws from suikoden games*

Wha! Really! Augh! Where're I gonna get 50 bucks!!!