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Astri
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:20 am


Nios
Which one did I smile in? I only hate my smile if its one of those big smiles like when I'm laughing. Then they look super girly.

Do you look girly or just very young? I just ask because my best friend also has round cheeks -- which she hates, but she tends to come off looking not so much like a girl as like a thirteen year old boy (um, you know, when her breasts aren't obvious).
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:54 am


Astri
Nios
Which one did I smile in? I only hate my smile if its one of those big smiles like when I'm laughing. Then they look super girly.

Do you look girly or just very young? I just ask because my best friend also has round cheeks -- which she hates, but she tends to come off looking not so much like a girl as like a thirteen year old boy (um, you know, when her breasts aren't obvious).

I look girly. I'd prefer to look like a 13 year old boy blaugh At least then I'd look like a boy. Right now I look like an ugly androgenous mess, but at least it's a step in the right direction. xd

Nios


JoVo

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:03 am


Nios
Which one did I smile in? I only hate my smile if its one of those big smiles like when I'm laughing. Then they look super girly.


It was one of the pictures you put up. You're barely smiling, but you look really cute. And, as I'm pansexual, I didn't think "girly" cute because I can barely recognize what that is anymore.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:40 pm


You need more fire breathing pictures JoVo, dear xP
It combines to aspects I enjoy... Fire and alchohol !!

Reticence


JoVo

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:44 pm


Reticence
You need more fire breathing pictures JoVo, dear xP
It combines to aspects I enjoy... Fire and alchohol !!


LOL. I'll try to get some done for ya.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:36 pm


JoVo
And, as I'm pansexual, I didn't think "girly" cute because I can barely recognize what that is anymore.

Yes pansexuals are the best kind of people in my mind. I'm not that good of a person. I'm learning to be that open minded though. My boyfriend is heterosexual and he's finding it hard to adjust but he loves me anyways. That proves that love is definately more powerful than physical attraction.

Nios


Keithing
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:15 pm


Nios
I'm not that good of a person. I'm learning to be that open minded though.
My exact same thought. As much as I try, I know I'm trying too hard to force and I resign myself to what I am. It's good enough for me that I tried anyway.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:54 pm


if you have seen my myspace you have seen this one... i donno if i ever put it up here... JOSH YOU NEED TO SHUT UP GAH!!! im kidding i love you like a fly loves crap! heart well here it is you guys.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/JUSTjoshie/Joshhair001.jpg

Kaporie


Nios

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:01 pm


Keithing
Nios
I'm not that good of a person. I'm learning to be that open minded though.
My exact same thought. As much as I try, I know I'm trying too hard to force and I resign myself to what I am. It's good enough for me that I tried anyway.

Aye that is exactly how it is for me. Forcing is unnatural though. It only matters when you actually do fall in love with someone other that what your orientation expects. Of course it is not often when someone falls in love so that is an obstacle to be met when you reach it.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:56 am


You're attracted to who and what you're attracted to -- there's no reason to be ashamed of that.* It's not like I'm attracted to everyone either -- or that physical appearance doesn't play a part. I'm not a saint. I've just come to realize that who am attracted to tends to have little to do with sex (as in genes not intercourse) or gender, per se.

*[though, if you're attracted to, say, small children, dead people, or farm animals, I am personally of the belief that you should NOT ACT UPON these attractions -- however, I still don't think it's right to make people feel guilty about the attraction itself]

Astri
Crew


Astri
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:11 am


Forcing yourself to try conform to any form of sexuality [aside from, you know, not going with the children/dead people/animals thing, which I think is a (are) very different issue(s)] is a bad, bad idea. It can cause a lot of misunderstanding and hardship on both sides of the equation and really isn't fair to anyone. Just leave yourself open. Like, if you've only been attracted to guys your whole life and suddenly you're legitimately attracted to a girl, that's okay. It doesn't have to mean anything. It's not worth having an identity crisis over. If you've only been attracted to guys your whole life and you're never attracted to a girl, that's okay, too. What's important is to trust yourself and how you feel and to realize that the labels, for the most part, are objects of convenience and are not real definitions of who you are.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:41 am


Aye from what I said I meant: you are attracted to whom you are attracted to. If however you fall in love with someone other than your sexual orientation usually finds attractive then that is when the idea of complete open mindedness occurs. If you truly love them then there will be no problem. There is no forcing involved.

Nios


Astri
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:28 am


Right. It is can be difficult to do, though. Like I have this very good friend who'd only really been attracted to girls and trans-folk before. She currently has a boyfriend. And when she first started "dating" him she didn't tell me because she was afraid I would make fun of her (and, to be fair, I lot of people did). And she had this whole identity crisis about it. She was like, "OMG, does this make me straight?! I don't want to be straight!" And was like, "Honey, you're genderqueer. You can't be straight. Besides, you still like girls, right?" It was just very emotionally complicated for her and I feel like it's such a shame.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:32 am


Okay, also the stigma that "Straight = Death!" in queer culture as a whole is really ******** up, and horribly unfair to our straight allies. I mean, as a long-time ally who used to think she was straight, I can tell you that it can be really painful and lonely. And it's so hypocritical. Um...and this is the picture thread. I should stop now.

Astri
Crew


Keithing
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:51 pm


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If anyone cares to know, this is what happens when people are allowed to have cameras in pubs. Who uses a extended flash in a dark pub anyway? And please note I'm not drunk, I just go really red after a few sips.
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