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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:16 pm
Broken Image? But OMG. xD <3333333 I love it. Edit: image works now hldfhasdl;kfhsadlf;
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:16 pm
WylrPnufh Broken Image? But OMG. xD <3333333 I love it. It was just a picture of Pupu in case you didn't get the ref. But apparently you did anyway, so biggrin
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:19 pm
Elemental Draconis Kaos Incarnate Elemental Draconis Minions?! They take that as an insult. They're my companions. I can call them minions if I want to razz Yeah.... and wait until they try to bite your hand by doing that. <.<
@ Rara: Well, Kaos is tasty, no? I only call them minions to you xd
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:27 pm
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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:29 pm
Cabron LaSwan Wantcookie Cabron LaSwan Wantcookie Cabron LaSwan That's like saying that knowing you are drawing a hand wrong will magically teach you how to draw it properly. There's a difference between knowing that you function differently than the norm and having a solid enough grasp on the norm to emulate it. Barring autism, I can't think of any 'disorders' that would directly inhibit your ability to evaluate yourself objectively.
And then there's the whole question of whether or not you want to change it. For example, you could make the conscious choice to set a bajillion alarms every day and write yourself memos for everything, and in doing so never forget or be late for anything. But if you don't care about being late or forgetting s**t, why would you go through the effort of changing it just so you meet someone else's expectations for how you are 'supposed' to function? Point taken. *Sigh* Part of the problem is that I'm consistently bombarded with "this is how it should work" from different people who give different answers, and then given a follow-up "this is how it does work" from even more people. I've heard that ADD is, technically speaking, miscroscopic on the autism scale. I have no idea if it's true, but it's a statement that's been made. I've also heard that it's just a matter of laziness on the part of the individual, but I can tell you that's not true. I've actually done that, set an infinite number of alarms and such. I've roped other people into it, too, asking them to help me out when they can. Just talk to Rhed. Eventually I ignore it all and go back to the way it was, though. I'm told the tendency to continue making the same mistake and/or forget/not care about the consequences is another trait of ADD, but I don't know. I remember for the longest time I honestly thought that was a normal thing, to learn the lesson and completely fail to implement it. I think all the problems would disappear overnight if people collectively took the word 'should' out of their vocabulary and just focused on appreciating all the different 'does'es. Using terms like 'disorder' just promotes the mentality that something is broken and needs to be fixed. One of my best friends from high school is bipolar and I have yet to find something she hasn't been able to make much more exciting. Being able to consistently forget about what you 'have' to be doing or where you 'have' to be at any given time has probably helped you to do a lot more of what you want to do, too.
(Also, that is more commonplace a thing than you think. Except instead of forgetting what happened last time, "normal" people usually just try to convince themselves that this time, things will be different.) Oh, sure, but what I want isn't always what's good for me or anyone else. But you're right, "should" is always something I've hated because all it does is mobilize people out of a sense of obligation and guilt. So wait, what could we replace "disorder" with that doesn't sound so bad? "Abnormality" still has the same negative connotation... Maybe "deviation?" True, but who decides what is good for you but you? To some people, being happy in the moment is a higher priority than being healthy or well-liked or financially secure, and who is to say there's anything wrong with that?
How about 'quirk'? That's what they call it when it doesn't have a medical name associated with it. xd That's the thing. I like to live in the moment, but everyone else constantly reminds me of the past and the future, and all it does is guilt and scare me. Hm. The issue I can see arising is that language is a fluid thing. Fifty years ago "gay" meant "happy." Then it was used for homosexuality, and now people use it to describe things they dislike. No matter what you call it, I think you're going to get a bit of a "Rose by any other name" effect. You could use "privileged" and it'd eventually have just as negative a connotation.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:40 pm
Gonna go play Alice Cuz I CAN >:C :3 ~<3
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problematic briefcase Crew
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:23 pm
Cabron LaSwan Wantcookie Le Derpy Hooves Why is it a disorder if it doesn't feel like a problem? neutral Because you can't always see how it affects you. If it's all you've ever known, how can you tell you're different from other people? That's not always the case; for example, I'm pretty sure people with eating disorders know they have eating disorders. My sister has an eating disorder where she simply forgets to eat a lot of the time, or can't keep food down because of stress, and she is aware that her eating patterns are vastly different from her friends'. Dissect the word. Dis- is a common prefix that indicates negation, lack, or reversal. Order, in this case, basically means what is considered normal. Therefore it's called a disorder because it deviates from the prescribed standard of normalcy. Something in your thought pattern or physical body functions differently from what is generally accepted as the way they are 'supposed' to function.
It's not always a bad thing (if Charlie Sheen really is considered bipolar, for example, it's the best thing that ever happened to him) but it is inarguably different from how 'normal' people are observed to function. Yeah. :'D I'm just feeling a little derpy. I get the terminology, I just don't see the treatment and the thing I'm feeling as a disorder at all. If I'm normal right now, I'm going to say that that is what the disorder is.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:37 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:18 pm
Wantcookie That's the thing. I like to live in the moment, but everyone else constantly reminds me of the past and the future, and all it does is guilt and scare me. Hm. The issue I can see arising is that language is a fluid thing. Fifty years ago "gay" meant "happy." Then it was used for homosexuality, and now people use it to describe things they dislike. No matter what you call it, I think you're going to get a bit of a "Rose by any other name" effect. You could use "privileged" and it'd eventually have just as negative a connotation. Yeah, I generally just opt to cut those people out of my life until they can learn to respect the fact that my choices are my choices to make and not theirs. That option isn't one I'd recommend to anyone who is socially inclined, though; I find solitude pleasant, so that's why it works for me.
That's true. But some people still use the word 'gay' to mean 'happy', so it's not like the original meanings are ever fully lost no matter how it gets twisted.
Le Derpy Hooves Yeah. :'D I'm just feeling a little derpy. I get the terminology, I just don't see the treatment and the thing I'm feeling as a disorder at all. If I'm normal right now, I'm going to say that that is what the disorder is. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply you didn't understand the word. sweatdrop I was just trying to help you disassociate 'disorder' from 'problem'. If you don't see it as interfering with your life, then it's probably not something you have to seek treatment for, even if it is something you do differently from others.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:24 pm
Cabron LaSwan Wantcookie That's the thing. I like to live in the moment, but everyone else constantly reminds me of the past and the future, and all it does is guilt and scare me. Hm. The issue I can see arising is that language is a fluid thing. Fifty years ago "gay" meant "happy." Then it was used for homosexuality, and now people use it to describe things they dislike. No matter what you call it, I think you're going to get a bit of a "Rose by any other name" effect. You could use "privileged" and it'd eventually have just as negative a connotation. Yeah, I generally just opt to cut those people out of my life until they can learn to respect the fact that my choices are my choices to make and not theirs. That option isn't one I'd recommend to anyone who is socially inclined, though; I find solitude pleasant, so that's why it works for me.
That's true. But some people still use the word 'gay' to mean 'happy', so it's not like the original meanings are ever fully lost no matter how it gets twisted. Right. Plus, I know that my future happiness depends upon my actions in the here and now, so I can't really fault them for being that way. It's not like I'm a slave to instant gratification (I actually miss out on a lot of things for taking too long to decide XD), but... No, they're not entirely lost. But the knowledge that the term "guy" originates from the effigies that were burned in Guy Fawkes' name isn't exactly widespread either.
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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:37 pm
Wantcookie Right. Plus, I know that my future happiness depends upon my actions in the here and now, so I can't really fault them for being that way. It's not like I'm a slave to instant gratification (I actually miss out on a lot of things for taking too long to decide XD), but... No, they're not entirely lost. But the knowledge that the term "guy" originates from the effigies that were burned in Guy Fawkes' name isn't exactly widespread either. Does it, though? That would imply that happiness depends on something external and changeable, as opposed to being a conscious choice that you can make in every moment simply by shifting your focus to things that you enjoy thinking about. Pleasant thoughts are always going to be there for the person who decides to look for them.
You now realize you are making an argument against doing something in the now because something might happen to affect its validity in the distant future.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:56 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:57 pm
Kaos Incarnate I'm tempted to get art of this avi xd I can doodle one for you
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:03 pm
Ive grown rather attached to this avi.
It gives me a sense of tranquility.
Now I must acquire arts.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:39 pm
Harusame Mizukishi Kaos Incarnate I'm tempted to get art of this avi xd I can doodle one for youIf you want to, I would be happy for you do doodle my avi
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