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Mandi Gallows

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:05 pm


Retribution from the pale shy man! Sounds juicy. xD
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:12 pm


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Juicy is an understatement lol. This will change the dynamic between the two completely, and while Waffle will come out of it a completely different person, Sabe will remain the hurt person he is and has to live with it.

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sooo Waffle is a complete sociopath/psychopath, and abusive, and spoiled, and sadistic, and ... and poor Sabe is a victim of an abusive marriage! gonk

sheesh, does she even think to EXPLAIN his position to him at all!? o_O;

No, she does not explain it to Sabe anyway. She did explain it to Luciano when trying to justify her abusive behavior, but as far as Sabe goes she expects him to already know his place in life.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:14 pm


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Juicy is an understatement lol. This will change the dynamic between the two completely, and while Waffle will come out of it a completely different person, Sabe will remain the hurt person he is and has to live with it.

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sooo Waffle is a complete sociopath/psychopath, and abusive, and spoiled, and sadistic, and ... and poor Sabe is a victim of an abusive marriage! gonk

sheesh, does she even think to EXPLAIN his position to him at all!? o_O;

No, she does not explain it to Sabe anyway. She did explain it to Luciano when trying to justify her abusive behavior, but as far as Sabe goes she expects him to already know his place in life.


heh... including the secret deals she makes. rolleyes

you have quite the capacity for character development, I have to say. 3nodding I was wondering what all those posts were about between Waffle and Sabe. almost like your own little story apart from everyone else.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:22 pm


I love a story within a story, though! 3nodding

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:24 pm


true that. smile helps keep things interesting.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:30 pm


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heh... including the secret deals she makes. rolleyes

you have quite the capacity for character development, I have to say. 3nodding I was wondering what all those posts were about between Waffle and Sabe. almost like your own little story apart from everyone else.
That's Waffle for ya lol.

And damn lol, Waffle started out relatively tame compared to now. Sabe started out as a shell of a person (reasons for that, but totally spoilers which will get covered sometime I promise) but is now forever bouncing between broken and rebuilt.

But in general, Waffle is a pretty flat character. That doesn't mean Sabe is a super dynamic character either, since he's still recognized as a cosmic punching bag, but he's shown more character development.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:34 pm


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heh... including the secret deals she makes. rolleyes

you have quite the capacity for character development, I have to say. 3nodding I was wondering what all those posts were about between Waffle and Sabe. almost like your own little story apart from everyone else.
That's Waffle for ya lol.

And damn lol, Waffle started out relatively tame compared to now. Sabe started out as a shell of a person (reasons for that, but totally spoilers which will get covered sometime I promise) but is now forever bouncing between broken and rebuilt.

But in general, Waffle is a pretty flat character. That doesn't mean Sabe is a super dynamic character either, since he's still recognized as a cosmic punching bag, but he's shown more character development.


she realy was, though. but I still wouldn't call her flat... more like... this is one of those phases where she becomes focused on one bad aspect of herself. and after all, you intend to remedy that via character conflict.

reminds me of how The Doctor developed between his different regenerations. there were a couple of times when he became very dark and brooding and callous himself. for extended periods of time!
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:41 pm


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heh... including the secret deals she makes. rolleyes

you have quite the capacity for character development, I have to say. 3nodding I was wondering what all those posts were about between Waffle and Sabe. almost like your own little story apart from everyone else.
That's Waffle for ya lol.

And damn lol, Waffle started out relatively tame compared to now. Sabe started out as a shell of a person (reasons for that, but totally spoilers which will get covered sometime I promise) but is now forever bouncing between broken and rebuilt.

But in general, Waffle is a pretty flat character. That doesn't mean Sabe is a super dynamic character either, since he's still recognized as a cosmic punching bag, but he's shown more character development.


she realy was, though. but I still wouldn't call her flat... more like... this is one of those phases where she becomes focused on one bad aspect of herself. and after all, you intend to remedy that via character conflict.

reminds me of how The Doctor developed between his different regenerations. there were a couple of times when he became very dark and brooding and callous himself. for extended periods of time!

I was thinking more along the lines of Ned Flanders from the Simpsons. He went from being 'that neighbor who happens to follow religion' to 'eats breathes and sleeps the bible'

In the same root, Waffle went from being a run-of-the-mill pushy spoiled brat to a full-blown narcissistic abusive b***h, complete with the sociopathy.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:44 pm


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heh... including the secret deals she makes. rolleyes

you have quite the capacity for character development, I have to say. 3nodding I was wondering what all those posts were about between Waffle and Sabe. almost like your own little story apart from everyone else.
That's Waffle for ya lol.

And damn lol, Waffle started out relatively tame compared to now. Sabe started out as a shell of a person (reasons for that, but totally spoilers which will get covered sometime I promise) but is now forever bouncing between broken and rebuilt.

But in general, Waffle is a pretty flat character. That doesn't mean Sabe is a super dynamic character either, since he's still recognized as a cosmic punching bag, but he's shown more character development.


she realy was, though. but I still wouldn't call her flat... more like... this is one of those phases where she becomes focused on one bad aspect of herself. and after all, you intend to remedy that via character conflict.

reminds me of how The Doctor developed between his different regenerations. there were a couple of times when he became very dark and brooding and callous himself. for extended periods of time!

I was thinking more along the lines of Ned Flanders from the Simpsons. He went from being 'that neighbor who happens to follow religion' to 'eats breathes and sleeps the bible'

In the same root, Waffle went from being a run-of-the-mill pushy spoiled brat to a full-blown narcissistic abusive b***h, complete with the sociopathy.


yeh, I can see that... interesting way to put it.

but yeh. I think Twi would have to see for himself how Waffle acts now to lose his interest in defending her. he'd probably feel justified if he "rescued Sabe from Waffle's abuse." xd

actually.... I like that concept! let's find a way for Twi to get that into his head!
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:52 pm


See, Mandi and Skotti just needed more drama! blaugh

lol, I loathe stagnant, one note characters, and Mandi was definitely one. But hey, not much I could do from a hospital bed with her back then, lol. xD

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:53 pm


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I think Twi would have to see for himself how Waffle acts now to lose his interest in defending her. he'd probably feel justified if he "rescued Sabe from Waffle's abuse." xd

actually.... I like that concept! let's find a way for Twi to get that into his head!
If you can somehow pull that off, more power to you. But it will be difficult, as there's very little wiggle room in the RP timeline before Sabe officially comes back to his room and stirs s**t up. Waffle will not be around for weeks after that event.

As it stands, he'd probably have to encounter someone who knows about what's been going on between her and Sabe but does not know that Twi barged into HQ and ran off with important documents. Best bets are either Mandi, Johnny, or Sabe himself.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:55 pm


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I think Twi would have to see for himself how Waffle acts now to lose his interest in defending her. he'd probably feel justified if he "rescued Sabe from Waffle's abuse." xd

actually.... I like that concept! let's find a way for Twi to get that into his head!
If you can somehow pull that off, more power to you. But it will be difficult, as there's very little wiggle room in the RP timeline before Sabe officially comes back to his room and stirs s**t up. Waffle will not be around for weeks after that event.

As it stands, he'd probably have to encounter someone who knows about what's been going on between her and Sabe but does not know that Twi barged into HQ and ran off with important documents. Best bets are either Mandi, Johnny, or Sabe himself.


well, Mandi is one I actually have a possibility of Twi being forced to confront... and Sabe is a possibility if done right. but if what you say is true, than it isn't worthe a concerted effort to try to push. I'll just take the opportunity if it presents itself.

and @Mandi: aye, that is true! character conflict is what makes a story a story! without conflict to drive the plot there is nothing. ((says the man obsessed with Franz Kafka.))

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:00 pm


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well, Mandi is one I actually have a possibility of Twi being forced to confront... and Sabe is a possibility if done right. but if what you say is true, than it isn't worthe a concerted effort to try to push. I'll just take the opportunity if it presents itself.
Mandi's probably the easiest option, since iirc her character was there when Waffle dragged a suitcase full of clothes across the hall when Sabe was 'moving in' with Luc, as well as what's going on now.

And I should probably get Sabe outside some, anyway. He's kind of a homebody right now. I'll think of something. A chance encounter with Sabe could be used to confirm whatever Mandi says to Twi, if that happens.

Estimated RP time until Sabe goes back: less than a week, but more than a few days.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:03 pm


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well, Mandi is one I actually have a possibility of Twi being forced to confront... and Sabe is a possibility if done right. but if what you say is true, than it isn't worthe a concerted effort to try to push. I'll just take the opportunity if it presents itself.
Mandi's probably the easiest option, since iirc her character was there when Waffle dragged a suitcase full of clothes across the hall when Sabe was 'moving in' with Luc, as well as what's going on now.

And I should probably get Sabe outside some, anyway. He's kind of a homebody right now. I'll think of something.

Estimated RP time until Sabe goes back: less than a week, but more than a few days.


yeh, I was thinking the same thing.

anywho, I'm going to head back to bed again after maybe one more post. maybe without even posting again. so I hope I don't leave anyone stuck tonight... if I do, please feel free to auto Twi into a better position as needed until I get back. I think a few of you have gotten the general idea about him by now.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:03 pm


got your edit, just so ya know. 3nodding I like the idea.
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