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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:29 pm


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Wait, the game itself lets you run Bots? Are they... I'm not sure I can come up with an insult that would quite do this justice and not actually earn me at least two ouguns...


No no no, that would be silly. If you run bots they jail your character and make you pay them real money to get out again. They want you to use the botting features THEY put in the game, and make you pay for the best parts.

Pathfinding: Automatically go to wherever you need to go
Autohunting: Free users can hunt in a set range, and gain EXP when the hunting is cancelled, but don't pick up any items. Users who give them money, can pick up the items, and don't lose EXP when murdered while autohunting.

The entire game panders to those who give them money. New users now are given tasters of what they could have if they paid, and then left to suffer if they don't. Game used to be awesome fun before that started... But now? No. Just, no.

Yeah, that just sounds awful... It isn't nearly as bad as I thought, but still.

Have you heard of Mount and Blade?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:17 pm


Nvm, finding a picture of an anime midget is difficult.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:38 pm


Looking at what Sora can do, I'm actually not surprised she didn't get as much of the limelight. First and foremost, her rper is me. I might be able to rp at a semi-literate level, but I just don't have the vision, mind-set, whatever that makes a good combat rper. Then, what little I can come up with will need to be hindered by Sora's clumsiness. All in all, by this point, I wouldn't be too surprised if I failed for taking to long or not contributing enough xd .

And I see the quote you added in, Hinote c: . Don't worry, I've partly finished my post. Just need to trim some of Sora's thinking and put in what she's actually going to do 3nodding . Any suggestions on how to knock Kensei out will be greatly appreciated mrgreen . Sorry, Hado, but I can't think of any other way to securely transport someone as big as Kensei around without knocking him out sweatdrop .
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:49 pm


The quote was actually an afterthought requested by Hado, just to ensure things kept moving.

And yeah, looking back on how things played out, this mission was more aligned to Shikaku's talents than Sora's, what with all the chasing and tracking and sneaking going on. Next time we'll have to defend a candy factory from bandits or something. I'm fairly confident Sora would be quite effective in that situation. XD

Ultimately whether you pass or fail is up to Hikaro, but looking at events and Sora's actions, she did do fairly well, given what she was stuck with. She may not have done all that much flashy stuff or gotten into the lime light a lot, but none of her choices or actions were bad throughout, and she dealt well with each new situation as it came up, despite not having a good team dynamic. Considering her team was made of one person she knew, but who didn't respect her as a leader, and one who she didn't know anything about, it could be said she thought on her feet quite well. Now she just needs to learn to keep her feet under her where they belong. XD

Edit: Current transfer technique directly to the brain stem nerve cluster. Should be enough shock to override the system and knock a person out quite nicely without too much fuss.

Though I was also thinking of making a razor wire leash, which would also be fun.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:45 pm


Why does everyone assume that Laxus doesn't respect people? Kensei stuttered over his words, and [laxus thought] insulted the Kazekage, so he spoke up, and tried to cover. Something he was thought to be an idiot for, but should David had thought his leader was insulting someone, he would have either done the same thing Laxus did, or attempted to shut his leader up. He's been nothing but nice to Sora, and now he gets thought of as disrespectful of her leadership abilities? He's done everything he's asked of her, so I don't see where that is coming from. [Sure he thinks of her as a kid, but that doesn't affect his decision to follow her orders.] Heck, Laxus is probably going to go straight back to his previous mission after his sternum gets reset, and whatever rib damage he has, simply because he actually likes the people. [Granted I play them, but they aren't overly hostile to him. Kensei got his name wrong on purpose, something Laxus sees as a personal insult calling Laxus inferior, and Shikaku is paranoid and doesn't give Laxus a chance, so he dislikes him because of the closed minded outlook Shikaku is the the epitome of. Laxus doesn't really have an opinion of the Raikage, though he does like the secondary one. She's strict, but not strict to the point she wants to crush someone's head for overstepping boundaries on their FIRST mission. Basically Laxus doesn't like people being insulting or Hostile to him. Bakaschnitzel is more likable to Laxus than Kensei or Shikaku. Especially David. sweatdrop ]

That being said, I'm kinda starting to lose interest in Laxus since people keep picking him apart, and criticizing everything he does.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:50 am


Kensei never stuttered over his words in the meeting with David. You broke posting order and Laxus spoke without giving Kensei a chance. All Kensei did was mention that David was young. An obvious observation. Laxus walking in behind him and commenting on David's size though, was something that could actually have pissed him off if he hadn't chosen to focus on the task at hand. Until, of course, Laxus broke rank again.

I may be wrong about his not respecting Sora as a leader, but considering for the most part he's done his own thing thus far without attempting to coordinate with her, despite being alongside her for the first while of the mission, and the fact he's never seemed overly respectful of anyone at all... An RPC is kind of like a real person. It doesn't matter what your intentions are as the RPer, he's going to be seen as others interpret his actions.

Shikaku is paranoid around Laxus for several good reasons. Their first meeting determined for him that he should not have Laxus along on any instance requiring stealth, hence why he ditched him in the market. Next in the office, on his entrance and getting yelled at by the Raikage, he saw Laxus smiling about it, inciting distrust of him. Next, when offered the chance to read kensei's file, he saw Laxus hide his expression, correctly assuming his reason for doing so, and then was disturbed rather than comforted by the fake smile Laxus gave to cover it up. He's excellent at reading people, and that just creeped him out. Then, in the same meeting a few more minor details, and leaving he got in Shikaku's way, allowing Sora to fall down the stairs, though he doesn't know if that was intentional. Even being paranoid, he has good reason to be wary of Laxus. Thing is, other than their first meeting, and his little prank, Shikaku hasn't done anything to offend Laxus, yet Laxus has already contemplated murdering him several times.

And really, if you're calling Shikaku close minded, I think we both need to look up the definition of that term.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:55 am


U-umm... Can we just... Well, to be fair, Sora didn't issue many orders at the beginning of the mission sweatdrop . She was too preoccupied with not giving away the team's position to not speak much. What few orders she did give, Laxus carried out just fine. He knocked Kensei out just as she asked and left just as she asked.

So... candy factories blaugh ! Sora's first thought in such a mission would be, xd
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:14 pm


Hm. Did she order the hit on the clone? My bad.

I can easily imagine her going into a full on demon release after one of the bandits goes and breaks some important candy making equipment.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:19 pm


It'd be funny if she went full-on demon because of that because she wouldn't be angry so much as she'd be incredibly sad xd . She'd be crying as she goes demon xd .
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:39 am


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It's your turn you know...

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:46 am


Wait, I thought Laxus got stomped unconscious...
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:29 am


Kensei stuttered over his words when he spoke with the receptionist,
I didn't say anything about when he talked to David. Laxus saw that as he calling David a child, so he tried to cover.

He's stood next to Sora for one part of the mission, so the whole coordinating thing really doesn't apply since he hasn't been able to receive steady orders[while obeying the orders he was given when he was given them]. He's done exactly what she's asked of him, and doesn't have a strategic background. He's been respectful to Yamatano, though Laxus does reserve ulterior motives that he'll never be able to achieve, and he's been nothing but respectful in his slight dealings with Hikaro's character and the raikage's second part. Maybe not overly so, but he'd just seem like a jackass if I made him overly respectful to them. People already see him as tactless, so if I suddenly change to pure respect, it'll come off as Laxus being sarcastic, and I've already dug a huge hole that Laxus will never be able to recover from. [Both due to my own incompetence, and through misunderstandings.]

Laxus was in a secluded area, so Shikaku purposefully went out of his way to spy on him, and removed the thing every other shinobi would have carried, and that's the only reason I had Laxus sitting out there, he'd have covered it up if someone got too close. You poked the hole in it due to it possibly hitting the wall, and I didn't press too hard. If you'd have just taken it off to take it off I'd have called metagaming because now Laxus is seen as tactless for something he was prepared to prevent. Yes, because if you don't like someone you won't feel the tiniest bit happy when they get in trouble.
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Shikaku couldn't help but grin at that, in no small part helped along by the sounds of fleshy impact coming from in front of him as he assumed Laxus was finally getting a well earned thrashing.
Shikaku did exactly the same thing, under worse circumstances. Laxus smiled at Shikaku getting scolded, Shikaku grinned at Laxus getting his sternum cracked and a couple ribs broken. Hmm, If Shikaku got the chance to read Laxus' file and then told he couldn't, wouldn't that kinda miff Shikaku? It's as easy as getting information on a potential enemy. Shikaku probably knows the quote "Knowledge is Power." So Laxus sought knowledge on Kensei, and didn't trust Shikaku to tell them the entire profile given. Laxus didn't know anything about kensei besides he was a taijutsu specialist with Uchiha blood. That's a BIG hole he'd have liked filled with useful information. He didn't get anything but pretty much what he already knew. You said Shikaku would never let Laxus behind him, so I put him in front of him. If I'd have known that I was allowed to catch her I would have. Laxus is quite a bit taller, and he's broader than Shikaku so he could have at least caught her by the back of the shirt and pulled her back up. I didn't because I had the feeling you'd have called bs on it. [That was after you'd criticized several of Laxus' actions, so after you do that I get the feeling Laxus is useless, so I just let her fall.] And he didn't get anything but pretty much what he already knew. I'm going to call bs on the nothing to offend him. He ditched Laxus, basically leaving him completely blind. Laxus isn't a targeting shinobi. He can't find things easy without them having metal. I would use a needle in a hay stack, but he could easily do that... You basically made Laxus completely useless until I had to have Sora run into him otherwise Laxus wouldn't even be close to Kensei right now, and Shikaku would possibly still be under the effects of the genjutsu, or been incapacitated by Kensei.

Shikaku is Closed minded because he made only one observation of him and boom, Laxus is tactless and nothing will change that to Shikaku. Saw him smile at a child getting scolded, a child who has dirt on him, and he's not trustworthy. He's also apparently psychic because he can tell Laxus has thought of killing him.


I decided to put a spoiler on it, since I'm going to lose the debate anyway, and I'll get considered agitating anyway, so I'm going to make it partially your responsibility if you want to continue the conversation. I'm only clarifying when Kensei stuttered.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:48 pm


How does anything done with the receptionist relate to the meeting with David? He could care less what happened there. His issue was Laxus overstepping his authority and speaking out before his team leader was given a chance. And also remember that he spoke out in that way immediately after David had recited all of the information Laxus had drawn out by asking questions and sharing information in public. His initial "Greeting" to the team was to alert them that they had been... Unwise, in speaking so readily. To have him just step forward and start talking, blatantly ignoring that warning was what set David off, just as much as the fact he wasn't the proper leader of the team.

Yes, I know the excuse that Laxus didn't actually ask the questions and it was Sora that spoke out, but as she was responding to something Laxus had "Thought", thinking he spoke out loud and rather than correcting and requesting edits you ran with it, that validates the view, however initially incorrect, that Laxus started it.

Skipping bits for pointless argument sake...

Shikaku has no idea Laxus may or may not be injured. For that matter, it would be your decision if Laxus had anything worse than a bruise from that attack. He wasn't knocked unconscious just by getting kicked in the chest. Recall that Shikaku is currently blind (Also still under the effect of the genjutsu). All he was aware of was the sound of a fleshy impact, which he assumed to be Laxus getting slugged or something. The difference between the two referenced incidents is that in the office Shikaku saw it as someone he'd only met once taking pleasure in him being reprimanded by the highest officer of the military, while in the latter incident he found it amusing to think of someone who he saw as antagonistic towards him getting slugged. His reaction would almost definitely have been different if he actually saw what happened, and he did promptly assault Kensei himself, which could be seen as protecting Laxus, though he only actually did it for the sake of the mission.

Skipping pointless bits...

If it was just one observation Shikaku would just avoid having Laxus along on missions requiring stealth. He read Laxus report, up to the point where he spoke out, which told him about his character, then made several observations from then on leading him to believe him to be antagonistic. Being paranoid, he could be completely wrong, but since Laxus has never acted friendly at all in his presence except as an occasional act, he doesn't trust him. That's not close minded. That's paranoia picking up on little details and assembling the worst possible whole his mind can make of it. His entire character is built around being able to read people. Not just their facades, but the actual person. He can pick apart a facade easily, because his main skill relies on creating them at a moment's notice. All he knows about Laxus is that whenever he's seemed friendly he was wearing a facade, and the rest of the time he's seemed hostile. Tone down the hostility a bit, make him seem a bit friendlier, and Shikaku will probably start to adjust his views.

And Shikaku has no idea of Laxus' murderous considerations. If he did, he'd probably have found some way out of going along on the mission or started paying more attention to Laxus than Kensei. Kensei to him is a puzzle first, a mission second, and a threat third. If he could read Laxus' mind Laxus would be a threat above all else.

Note: Not calling the "Pointless bits" pointless because they don't matter in any way, but rather because they are points that have already been discussed to their fullness, solved in some way, or would just be annoying and silly to argue about.

Honestly this is all probably silly to argue about, but, we wouldn't be RPers without arguments. The two seem to go hand in hand.

~

Anyways, to clarify if you missed it, Laxus isn't knocked out. Breath knocked out of him, most definitely, knocked out, not so much. Kensei is strong, but not that strong. Not every hit is a one hit kill. If you think something has hit you hard enough to knock you out of the running again, bring it to the chat and we'll clarify it together.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:32 pm


Laxus took that as Kensei wasn't a good orator, so he thought he might have to step in. Also, I didn't actually pick up on any warning David might have dropped, so Laxus didn't either.

I wasn't even going to bring that part up, since I am the one who didn't request edits like you mentioned.

Thank you, I'm definitely losing, so it's nice to not be so thoroughly trounced.

It's a B rank attack. Kensei is a rank stronger than his rank, so Laxus just got stomped in the chest with a technique meant to break bones with force a rank higher than the actual technique. I thought it would be equivalent to getting hit in the chest with a 70 mile per hour fast pitch, give or take a couple miles. [I've actually had my sternum cracked from a girl with a large ring on her finger back handing my chest during a game. It really doesn't take much to crack a sternum. It also doesn't hurt much besides moving your arms and breathing. Ribs on the other hand hurt like heck.]

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:18 pm


It wasn't a voiced warning, but implied. It's why his followup was a direct order for Laxus to keep his mouth shut or have his tongue removed, calling it a favor to Kumogakure. The warning was basically just in that he knew everything they had said, which most true shinobi (Which, I shall give you the benefit of admitting, most RPers are unable to properly portray in such instances) would realize put them in a very precarious position and begun to more carefully watch their tongues.

C rank, actually. Taijutsu techniques, unless they have directly in the description boosted their attack strength in some way, should always strike with the strength of the user, or lower, depending on the user's wishes. Both the technique and Kensei's strength are C rank. Kensei doesn't have any strength boosting techniques or benefits active to raise that power higher.

Can't say I have any experience with cracked or broken sternums. Can't actually say without actual research that I know what a sternum is, though I can make a strong guess from context alone. Regardless, shinobi are ridiculously sturdy. Just look at any fight in the anime or manga and you'll have no choice but to agree with that. unless a technique is specifically designed to break bones, or has been executed in a way that would definitely cause such damage, or, for that matter, was intended to do that, you can usually shrug it off.

I am not of course condoning Laxus hopping up as if nothing happened and ignoring it. he took a strong hit to the chest with no defense up, that's gonna do some damage. He'll probably be a bit stunned, need time to catch his breath again, and be rather quite sore for awhile. Just be realistic with it while keeping in mind that your character is a ninja, he's trained and used to taking hits if he was trained properly (And unlike Shikaku, actually passed his taijutsu classes). Basically, keep it realistic, but keep in mind your character is better than the average human. Dropping too easily or holding up beyond your level are both unrealistic and draw people out of the story. The first makes you look pathetic and weak, while the second just makes you an annoying jerk. Toe the line.
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