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 Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:48 am
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:55 am
It's still boring now.
BR is the only story I've cared about in a long time.
All the action was drawn great. Had sex. Which was always a plus. No magic.. definite plus..
And gore.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:58 am
I went to borders yesterday and saw few volumes of BR...got somewhat curious and read like volume 10 or 11 or so...had no idea what was going on but i know i saw plenty of gore and kinky s**t.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:00 am
Students are given weapons, dropped on an island and forced to duke it out for a government sponsored television show.
Basically it's about being immediately forced into a highly stressful situation (life or death) and how people cope/adapt.. or attempt to.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:04 am
~:Remembers watching the movie, and hearing about a sequel, but didn't see the sequel:~
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:05 am
And I think that is, by and far, the most uneducated response I have ever received to a complete argument in my debating history. xd
Battle Royale got old. Fast. If a series tells you right off the bat that there'll be a definite ending at some point in the future, you have to do it right, i.e. don't ******** dawdle on "ohhhh boom headshot." Get to the point, tell the story, and stop dicking around to try and shock the readers 'cause you can't hook 'em with anything else. The NOVEL was a sensation in Japan, the movie did great, the follow-up manga was a middling success at best.
J. Michael Stracynski's Rising Stars is a perfect example of a series that was perfect around the beginning and end, and kinda fell out in the middle, forcing you to say "okay, get to the ******** point already." Battle Royale, much like the Watsuki flop Gun Blaze West (which was predicted as a big success since it followed the massive sales of Rurouni Kenshin) took too long to get to its destination, and then wrapped things up too quickly and messily.
The manga for Battle Royale was a failure, plain and simple. Using shock value to hook readers will only last so long, and will eventually relegate a story to where it belongs: the same place the rest of the schlocky trash like Kaikan Phrase goes. xd
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:11 am
holy s**t, this guy is seriously into that stuff.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:12 am
C. Fox holy s**t, this guy is seriously into that stuff. Actually, I just read. And yes, I do want a serious job in comics, which means I have to know my s**t. xd
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:13 am
I could really care less about how its sales did or any crap like that.
We're obviously rating things differently.
One Piece is boring to me now. Just like Naruto. And like Inuyasha. And every other manga that has some neverending quest to get to the end of the rainbow.
Things I care about = violence, sex, cool characters, cool fights, maybe some humor.
BR delivers. I don't rate things like manga on a whole.. cause I look for specifics.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:18 am
Just like I could proclaim the Snk vs Capcom Chaos comics from hong kong to be the best thing ever.. I can't read it cause it's in raw chinese. I have a loose grasp of what might be going on since I've played the game.. but since crossover games never have a real story... they just come up with stuff for the comics.. but it has the most interesting fights to look at. SVC > One Piece. 
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:19 am
Y'know, you coulda said "I don't read a lot of comics and this is my opinion" and I woulda left you alone on it. xd
Things that make a comic good to me:
1- Storytelling. It HAS to have good writing. This is related to part two--
2- Art. Great art can make a crappy story worth looking at. However, art is second to writing in that no matter how bad the art is, if the writing's good, it's worth sticking with, period.
3- What's the point to it all? If it's simply to entertain, great, but make sure it's actually entertaining and not going for the jugular with shock value. Shocking content with substance is even better, like Vagabond or the MAX Punisher line.
BR failed in all three aspects for me. While the art was solid and well-done on a technical level, it was too basic and lacked the general energy of most Japanese comics. In short, it had no class and no style, making it a lame read at best.
Okay, I'm done throwing encyclopedic comic knowledge at Crawley. I'm out for tonight, folks. xd
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:22 am
Anonymooo C. Fox holy s**t, this guy is seriously into that stuff. Actually, I just read. And yes, I do want a serious job in comics, which means I have to know my s**t. xd True true. I also wanted a serious job in comics, but i still dont know my s**t(in that area).
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:25 am
Anonymooo Y'know, you coulda said "I don't read a lot of comics and this is my opinion" and I woulda left you alone on it. xd Oh I read a lot of comics. I look for certain things though to make me happy. Like I said.. I look for specifics.. I don't judge on a whole. I already said what I look for. BR has much better art than OP .. especially considering the mood of BR compared to the mood of OP. I liked the more realistic style. Story is only something extra to me. Hell. Someone could just call a manga "fight" And every chapter or volume have a different fight. As long as it was H2H, brutal, had cool looking characters, and drawn in a way that doesn't look cartoony so that it takes away from the "hardness" of it... I'd proclaim it the best manga series ever.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:26 am
In fact.
Someone oughta make that.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:29 am
Crawleymang~ BR has much better art than OP .. especially considering the mood of BR compared to the mood of OP. Or I don't leave once I see this horribly inflammatory statement. However, I will give you your opinion on that, since art is subjective. But on a technical, stylistic, and storytelling level, One Piece's Oda Eiichiro is literally an artistic genius. The man has no professional artistic training beyond being Watsuki Nobuhiro's assistant, and yet he's mastered one- and two-point AND curvilinear perspective, while keeping with a weekly schedule for just over seven and a half years, and having minimal actual assistance while he's done it. His comics are incredibly easy to read (hallmark of a true master like Will Eisner or Jack Kirby) as your eyes almost can't fly over the page fast enough. Okay, I think I'm done now. xd
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