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Are we to...
remain a rebel group and just freelance in the other nations, perhaps become similar to mercenaries?
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develop into our own sovereign nation?
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Indrid Cold

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:16 pm


Actually the president DOES HAVE power. He may not be able to declare war but he can send in troops to other countries. They can only stay there for a certain ammount of time unless congress votes to go to war. But more or less yes our contry does have cowards, case in point bombing smaller countreis with only marginally effective airports. Which is real fun for our Nintendo piolets. In our nations history there have only been 5 actual wars. The rest have only been confrontations. Even now in Iraq, I don't even think thats an actual war. More or less a veitnam where soldiers keep getting switched out so that the president doesn't exceed the time limit of how long the trrops can be there. As for the romans compared to america. The romans were better. They managed to keep their Empire together for well.. a long a** time. America's been around a little over 200 years and we can already see it starting to break apart. Even now we are making the same mistake the romans did, spreading out too far and too thin. Seriously we sent our national guard into cosovo... What the hell?!? Our national guard is supposed to stay home and guard our nation, hence the name.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:47 pm


um i hate to say it but wouldn't teh astreys not exsist now because this is a new guild? as well wouldn't his mobile armor be a bit to high rank of a suit for infinty. i mean it posible but 3 suits? isn't taht strenching things big time?
i can't say it is wrong because i'm a low rank just like infinity all i can do is commenta nd give subjestions. but i think 3 mechs like this is way to high for infinity's rank.

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Dark Outsider

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:13 pm


I don't consider that much of power. Only being able to send in troops for a limited amount of time. He has less power then the Caeser did back during the Roman empire. And besides the president should be more focused with how things are HERE, then halfway across the world. 5 wars? What wars are you speaking of? As a nation we've only had 3 major wars, excluding the Revolution. The Civil War, and both World Wars. The Korean and Vietnam times were nothing but conflicts.

And the Romans sucked. They just got lucky as to where their city was located and stole the right ideas from the right people. But yes, we are falling apart just like the Roman empire. I've been saying that America will fall just like them for several years now, and it's quite obvious these days. And the spreading too far wasn't really a problem with the Romans, as Alexander the Great had an empire almost equal the size and took care of it better then the Romans could've ever hoped to. If Alexander hadn't died at such a young age, I don't think the Romans would've existed as they would've been owned by the Macedonians.

I'm not even going to get into the use of your military... America knows nothing about how to operate a military. All it knows is how to make bigger guns that can kill people faster and more efficiently.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:39 pm


Dark Outsider
I don't consider that much of power. Only being able to send in troops for a limited amount of time. He has less power then the Caeser did back during the Roman empire. And besides the president should be more focused with how things are HERE, then halfway across the world. 5 wars? What wars are you speaking of? As a nation we've only had 3 major wars, excluding the Revolution. The Civil War, and both World Wars. The Korean and Vietnam times were nothing but conflicts.

And the Romans sucked. They just got lucky as to where their city was located and stole the right ideas from the right people. But yes, we are falling apart just like the Roman empire. I've been saying that America will fall just like them for several years now, and it's quite obvious these days. And the spreading too far wasn't really a problem with the Romans, as Alexander the Great had an empire almost equal the size and took care of it better then the Romans could've ever hoped to. If Alexander hadn't died at such a young age, I don't think the Romans would've existed as they would've been owned by the Macedonians.

I'm not even going to get into the use of your military... America knows nothing about how to operate a military. All it knows is how to make bigger guns that can kill people faster and more efficiently.

don't forget they try to develop thoes weapons so that they can keep tehre rich civilians safe and they don't care how much of there fodder as you could say stays alive.

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InfinityOTC

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:30 am


erm oops i guess i better fix that if they decide that its against the rules. and the astrays which were supposed to be the HBR and HRB were still mobile dolls and hoping to use it as a base defense system. and as i said if thats not allowed then ill change that.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:10 pm


Dark Outsider
I don't consider that much of power. Only being able to send in troops for a limited amount of time. He has less power then the Caeser did back during the Roman empire. And besides the president should be more focused with how things are HERE, then halfway across the world. 5 wars? What wars are you speaking of? As a nation we've only had 3 major wars, excluding the Revolution. The Civil War, and both World Wars. The Korean and Vietnam times were nothing but conflicts.

And the Romans sucked. They just got lucky as to where their city was located and stole the right ideas from the right people. But yes, we are falling apart just like the Roman empire. I've been saying that America will fall just like them for several years now, and it's quite obvious these days. And the spreading too far wasn't really a problem with the Romans, as Alexander the Great had an empire almost equal the size and took care of it better then the Romans could've ever hoped to. If Alexander hadn't died at such a young age, I don't think the Romans would've existed as they would've been owned by the Macedonians.

I'm not even going to get into the use of your military... America knows nothing about how to operate a military. All it knows is how to make bigger guns that can kill people faster and more efficiently.


Ok this whole "I hate america's goverment" thing will stop now, I know we are entitled to our own opinions but I dont want a spark to light the fire down the road...so yeah lets drop it and talk of something else *doesnt like the goverment herself*...so...yeah o_o;;

Edit: Ok yeah, this is freedom of speech I know that...but uh, just try to avoid conflicts even though everyone here seems to hate the US gov. so everyone is on one side xd , but we have people that can freely come in here and check up on this and might act like an a**. But if that does happen a mod can be notified so...umm...damn it I just made an idiot out of myself *slaps forehead* >_<

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:56 pm


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Dark Outsider
I don't consider that much of power. Only being able to send in troops for a limited amount of time. He has less power then the Caeser did back during the Roman empire. And besides the president should be more focused with how things are HERE, then halfway across the world. 5 wars? What wars are you speaking of? As a nation we've only had 3 major wars, excluding the Revolution. The Civil War, and both World Wars. The Korean and Vietnam times were nothing but conflicts.

And the Romans sucked. They just got lucky as to where their city was located and stole the right ideas from the right people. But yes, we are falling apart just like the Roman empire. I've been saying that America will fall just like them for several years now, and it's quite obvious these days. And the spreading too far wasn't really a problem with the Romans, as Alexander the Great had an empire almost equal the size and took care of it better then the Romans could've ever hoped to. If Alexander hadn't died at such a young age, I don't think the Romans would've existed as they would've been owned by the Macedonians.

I'm not even going to get into the use of your military... America knows nothing about how to operate a military. All it knows is how to make bigger guns that can kill people faster and more efficiently.


Ok this whole "I hate america's goverment" thing will stop now, I know we are entitled to our own opinions but I dont want a spark to light the fire down the road...so yeah lets drop it and talk of something else *doesnt like the goverment herself*...so...yeah o_o;;

Edit: Ok yeah, this is freedom of speech I know that...but uh, just try to avoid conflicts even though everyone here seems to hate the US gov. so everyone is on one side xd , but we have people that can freely come in here and check up on this and might act like an a**. But if that does happen a mod can be notified so...umm...damn it I just made an idiot out of myself *slaps forehead* >_<

*puts a bandage on lindy's forehead*
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:01 pm


Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Mexican-American war, WWI, WWII.
Those were the only "Official" war's we've had.

Indrid Cold


Indrid Cold

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:04 pm


So far we have no mobile dolls. You might be able to create an advanced auto-piolet OS into a current MS to turn it into an MD, I have no objections to that. And as for the Astray.. I'll have to see a pic of it. If it looks okay, I'll add it to the roster for the lower ranks.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:16 am


oh i have posted a picture of the HRB and HBR before but here you go

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the astrays can be considered as low ranking mobile suit as a gm or zaku cuz it gets destroyed like nothing in gundam seed. the m1 astrays are used to protect orb while my astrays are the prototype ones which are stronger than m1's but only by a bit.
here are their specs.

HBR (left)
2x igellstellungs
1x anti-beam cloak shield
2x beam rifles
this is what it is set with at the moment but because of the way its OS is programed it is able to wield all sorts of weapons to adapt and prepare for certain missions. and because it dual wields beam rifles it has a somewhat larger battery to keep it going that much longer. this is more for heavy artillery.

HRB (right)
2x igellstellungs
1x anti-beam cloak shield
1x bazooka
1x beam rifle (not shown)
1x katana
this one doesnt have a larger battery pack but it does have a larger fuel tank so that it can handle the boost that the thrusters had been given. this one is most dependant on speed.

This is what i had thought up of during the last guild. if thought to powerful i can lower the specs or not have them at all.

InfinityOTC


Dark Outsider

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:53 am


Indrid Cold
Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Mexican-American war, WWI, WWII.
Those were the only "Official" war's we've had.


Well I excluded the Revolution as America wasn't exactly a country yet, at least not in my opinion. And I forgot about the War of 1812... but you also forgot about the Civil War as that was an official war. The battle of Gettysburg could practically be considered a war in and of itself due to how devastating it was.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:08 pm


ok.. i guess thats not the blue frame astray after it's been upgraded though.
i read the 3rd manga book. blue astray has some sort of armor modification and a booster pack which can come off and turn into several weapons includeing a sword. also the red astray's katana breaks when it hits upgraded gold astray's new arm that has the phase shift armor in it.
so far i haven't seen any new manga for the astray series.
the prototypes are stronger then the m1 m1 astrays but not that much i guess.

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InfinityOTC

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:09 pm


goldbrease
ok.. i guess thats not the blue frame astray after it's been upgraded though.
i read the 3rd manga book. blue astray has some sort of armor modification and a booster pack which can come off and turn into several weapons includeing a sword. also the red astray's katana breaks when it hits upgraded gold astray's new arm that has the phase shift armor in it.
so far i haven't seen any new manga for the astray series.
the prototypes are stronger then the m1 m1 astrays but not that much i guess.

hells ya book 3 is the best out of the three. and gold frame doesnt use phase shift yet it might after they upgrade it some more. only blue frame uses phase shift but thats activated only when the top layer of armor is breached. and the back pack for blue frame turns into a gatling gun and a sword and can be remote controlled when its detached. aint that awesome? and the reason gold was able to break the gerbera(supposedly indestructible) was because of gold frames strength and the sharpen trikeros
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:41 pm


Well I don't know if the other mangas have been released out here in the states, but there are 3 other Astray manga sets out. ASTRAY R, X ASTRAY, and SEED DESTINY ASTRAY.

And I'm guessing I'm the only one to have seen the OVAs for the Blue and Red Frame? They were only about 5 minutes or so long, but they were really good.

And the Gold Frame's upgraded form the AMATU has phase shift after acquiring the Blitz's arm and adding it to itself. So I'm guessing in that volume (I haven't read past volume 1) it does have phase shift if it's in that form.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:20 pm


Dark Outsider
Well I don't know if the other mangas have been released out here in the states, but there are 3 other Astray manga sets out. ASTRAY R, X ASTRAY, and SEED DESTINY ASTRAY.

And I'm guessing I'm the only one to have seen the OVAs for the Blue and Red Frame? They were only about 5 minutes or so long, but they were really good.

And the Gold Frame's upgraded form the AMATU has phase shift after acquiring the Blitz's arm and adding it to itself. So I'm guessing in that volume (I haven't read past volume 1) it does have phase shift if it's in that form.

it has phase shift. suposedly by mahq there is a 3rd upgrade of gold frame after blue frame L and red frame destroy the upgraded gold frame and it's pilot. the original pilot's sister is su[posedly the new pilot and i ahve no clue what the 3rd gold frame looks like because the link to it is dead. there is suposted to be a 2nd form of red frame but the link to it is dead but it subjests that because of that fight wrecking red so bad he had to rebuild it or something. there is alos a link to a 3rd blue frame called the blue frame Q or G or something.

the go9ld frame's second form not only has the phase shift ebcause of this arm but it also has the stealth abilitys from the blitz.

blue frame has a phase shift system but only around the cockpit area. as sort of a protection system i guess.

that mobius? purple one? i wouldn't call thoes things a mobile armor. i guess i was wrong thats actualy in ranking lower then a gm. now if it was one of thoes orange mobiuses that has the bit system then i might call it a watered down mobile armor. my oppionion is that mobile armors in gavity are slow and fast in space and are a pain trying to take down because of there thick armor and alot of the time they have a anti beam field. but then again thats my opionion.
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