I had to check back again, even though I had just agreed with
her way of seeing things and gave up on posting there anymore the whole point wasn't about rules, guidelines or anything like that anymore, but the on-going fight invariably was - and it was a lost fight that would only hurt the involved to begin with.
I just wanted to see if there were any more replies or something... And then I noticed
this. Okay, I must admit that I completely missed that by exactly one post, and apparently, other people did as well... And I just wanted to comment how sad it is that the all-side pleasing solution has to arrive late.
I'm not even going down with the pertinent questions with what we can take from it. In fact, EmperorZensekai did only good to bring this up, as his words can both be used as a precedent that will prevent future mishaps like these.
But... Just to puncture the wounds, "Swarf and the developers" implies [ JK ] is aware of the issue, and since [ JK ] had given more than his full blessing to the thread previously, his inclusion for supporting this solution comes off as an empty note. In fact, that is part of the point that was previously missed. That only strengthens the fact that the developers have actual 0 weight on anything on this site, other than actual 'developing'. This is probably the only place in the entire Internet where not just do the people behind making the site seem to be disconnected from their community,
they are actually seemingly expected to be that way before they say something they shouldn't and no one is bothered to correct them.
So the whole mess is another one in the endless files on how Gaia's management seems to take action before thinking things trough, and then backing themselves with either intentions they unfortunately missed or bureaucracy/consistency or just not at all. I don't care if you do what you're supposed to do, you must ALWAYS think of the full consequences of it. Not that questioning oneself is a rather "humane" thing to do - much less coming up with this alternative/consulting superiors about it before doing any harm. You'd have to be psychic for that, so no one can really blame the moderator of anything.
Curiously, and to mark a really meaningful comparison about thought before acton, with the z! forum's move to a GGD sub-forum, they warned everyone in advance and saw how terrible idea it would be, even if it required us showing them the obvious: The GGD is spam ridden, less active and subforums are usually worse than the main. Were the z!F to be moved without warning, we'd probably never achieve avoiding the move, because,to be frank, people would argue how that is the place for all Gaia Classic games, disregard all other logic in this.
So in the end, I don't even know what I'm saying. The real people I'm disappointed with on this whole mess aren't moderators. In fact, I'm impressed with Emperor in particular. I'm disappointed with the community in that thread mostly, because of how the issue turned out to be discussed.
arrow Also, I just wanted to post this here mostly to say:
This is a z!FF. Where else would I say all of this? On my journal, as suggested in the thread? I don't want to start a fight I'd lose for saying it on the thread either. It's obvious that no one gives a damn about journals; and a lot of the times, no one cares about what you keep in signatures either! Redirecting anything to both (or elsewhere) is the same as giving a sugared-up "******** off" as I noted before. Too bad arguing it is that inherently lost fight as someone will promptly show you a bunch of rules and find a loose string in your conviction, and even if the person showing it to you agrees with your preference of topic placement, someone will end up with a bad taste in the mouth for it.
It's not like I want to start a discussion on this either, but I had to write it so I could stop thinking about it already, and I like knowing that at least one person got annoyed at the large post and went all
"Tl, dr" - otherwise, I would have the opposite opinion about the journals