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DrQuint
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:04 pm


Wait? We're responsible over public satisfaction now?

Careful, there was a recent mishap with someone getting a thread moved out of the z!F. IF you do make a requests thread in there make sure to mask it as a simple "Let's make our own animated!" thread. You can include the 'taking requests' part somewhere past the title.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:44 am


I had to check back again, even though I had just agreed with her way of seeing things and gave up on posting there anymore the whole point wasn't about rules, guidelines or anything like that anymore, but the on-going fight invariably was - and it was a lost fight that would only hurt the involved to begin with.

I just wanted to see if there were any more replies or something... And then I noticed this. Okay, I must admit that I completely missed that by exactly one post, and apparently, other people did as well... And I just wanted to comment how sad it is that the all-side pleasing solution has to arrive late.

I'm not even going down with the pertinent questions with what we can take from it. In fact, EmperorZensekai did only good to bring this up, as his words can both be used as a precedent that will prevent future mishaps like these.

But... Just to puncture the wounds, "Swarf and the developers" implies [ JK ] is aware of the issue, and since [ JK ] had given more than his full blessing to the thread previously, his inclusion for supporting this solution comes off as an empty note. In fact, that is part of the point that was previously missed. That only strengthens the fact that the developers have actual 0 weight on anything on this site, other than actual 'developing'. This is probably the only place in the entire Internet where not just do the people behind making the site seem to be disconnected from their community, they are actually seemingly expected to be that way before they say something they shouldn't and no one is bothered to correct them.

So the whole mess is another one in the endless files on how Gaia's management seems to take action before thinking things trough, and then backing themselves with either intentions they unfortunately missed or bureaucracy/consistency or just not at all. I don't care if you do what you're supposed to do, you must ALWAYS think of the full consequences of it. Not that questioning oneself is a rather "humane" thing to do - much less coming up with this alternative/consulting superiors about it before doing any harm. You'd have to be psychic for that, so no one can really blame the moderator of anything.

Curiously, and to mark a really meaningful comparison about thought before acton, with the z! forum's move to a GGD sub-forum, they warned everyone in advance and saw how terrible idea it would be, even if it required us showing them the obvious: The GGD is spam ridden, less active and subforums are usually worse than the main. Were the z!F to be moved without warning, we'd probably never achieve avoiding the move, because,to be frank, people would argue how that is the place for all Gaia Classic games, disregard all other logic in this.

So in the end, I don't even know what I'm saying. The real people I'm disappointed with on this whole mess aren't moderators. In fact, I'm impressed with Emperor in particular. I'm disappointed with the community in that thread mostly, because of how the issue turned out to be discussed.



arrow Also, I just wanted to post this here mostly to say: This is a z!FF. Where else would I say all of this? On my journal, as suggested in the thread? I don't want to start a fight I'd lose for saying it on the thread either. It's obvious that no one gives a damn about journals; and a lot of the times, no one cares about what you keep in signatures either! Redirecting anything to both (or elsewhere) is the same as giving a sugared-up "******** off" as I noted before. Too bad arguing it is that inherently lost fight as someone will promptly show you a bunch of rules and find a loose string in your conviction, and even if the person showing it to you agrees with your preference of topic placement, someone will end up with a bad taste in the mouth for it.


It's not like I want to start a discussion on this either, but I had to write it so I could stop thinking about it already, and I like knowing that at least one person got annoyed at the large post and went all "Tl, dr" - otherwise, I would have the opposite opinion about the journals

DrQuint
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gataka
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:28 am


What's a z!FF?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:22 pm


gataka
What's a z!FF?


Red Kutai's coined term for "Place where you can discuss the z!F, in case discussion of z!F is off-topic in the z!F"

We used to call it zOMG! Community Discussion 2 years back, when we desperately needed one.

DrQuint
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Red Kutai
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:41 pm


gataka
What's a z!FF?

My best argument for self-inclusive scope, actually. If you can't talk about z!F in z!F, then you'd need to have a z!FF to do so; and a z!FFF to talk about that one, and... sweatdrop

As Val's pointed out, that role actually falls to the GCD in this instance; thread and Forum scopes don't actually include themselves (so talking about a thread in that thread, or a Forum in that Forum, is off-topic), and the GCD is technically intended to be used as a catch-all for such topics.

Speaking of which, who here would support a proposal to move all Rules & Guidelines Stickies to the GCD, where they belong? Anyone? User Image
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:10 pm


Whatevah. I totally ignored that latest bit of drama Dx

gataka
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DrQuint
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:34 pm


Red Kutai
Speaking of which, who here would support a proposal to move all Rules & Guidelines Stickies to the GCD, where they belong? Anyone? User Image


Harley Quinn
Ah! This is the part where we show how ridiculous the situation is by making jabs at increasingly ridiculous scenarios that come from it! I guess you could call that observational humor.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:49 pm


DrQuint
Wait? We're responsible over public satisfaction now?

Careful, there was a recent mishap with someone getting a thread moved out of the z!F. IF you do make a requests thread in there make sure to mask it as a simple "Let's make our own animated!" thread. You can include the 'taking requests' part somewhere past the title.


Still planning on doing it though, although it'll take some time. I'm rather busy with work and school right now.

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DrQuint
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:55 pm


gataka


*spots your avatar*

sweatdrop
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:04 pm


DrQuint
gataka


*spots your avatar*

sweatdrop
...FUDGE. Lighter gives ye'the Risky Lifestyle achievement stressed

gataka
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DrQuint
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:55 pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueZ6tvqhk8U



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Red makes a fine Sesame Street puppet.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:29 pm


DrQuint
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Seeing that you included me in the image made me happier than it should have.

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DrQuint
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:54 pm


Don't worry gataka sweetie, I'll soon revert back to that avatar.

I'm just calling a 24 hour break. emotion_kirakira
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:51 am


Is it still your birthday?

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DrQuint
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:10 pm


I sometimes get these weird feelings of deja vu... Like when I spot an old post by Makata and think of the current Gataka.
Then my brains explode.
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