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 Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:52 pm
When your inherent characterization is of utter social ineptitude coupled with 12-level effector intelligence, you're free to be hesitant when interpersonal relationships are the subject of discussion.
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:53 pm
Need to field a query to Ayers. Are the dice you futurecast with traditional six-sided dice?
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:55 pm
Virgil Hawkins No. It would be pretty creepy. xp *Shudders trying to banish mental image*
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:56 pm
Querl Dox No intrinsic connection to the "Superman" mythos, which even Matrix had. She's just a heroine who happens to be borrowing Superman's old clothes. Id say that Kismet has far more of a connection to Superman than the current Kara Zor-El has: supermanhomepage.com Superman first confronted Kismet following the Satanus/Blaze War (AOS #494). She said she existed between dark and light, illuminating the pathways to both. "Call me Fate - Destiny - Kismet." She also appeared to Jonathan Kent when he lay near death following his heart attack (AOS #500). Kismet reappeared at the end of the Superman Forever comic book warning of cosmic upheavals in time. In the ensuing weeks, Superman co-existed in four different realities. Kismet appeared to him as a little girl in each plane of existance, trying to warn him. She told him that they shared a bond, a connection, and she warned him about her arch-enemy, Dominus. Dominus attacked them, and Kismet was wounded but she escaped. Superman and Waverider managed to hide Kismet in the past as Clark's childhood friend Sharon (SUP #139). Sharon became the superheroine known as Strange Visitor, wearing Superman's old blue energy costume and had quite a few adventures, which sadly ended in her demise at the end of the war with Imperiex. In a last ditched effort to defeat Imperiex, Strange Visitor revealed to Superman that she was Kismet merged with Sharon Vance before heroicly giving over all of her energy to Superman to enable him to defeat Imperiex (SUP #173). Also, Superman is arguably protected by Kismet against death, deemed too important to leave this plane of existence. But Superman had never met Kara Zor-El prior to her landing on Earth, correct? As far as Krypton-born goes, well myself and John Henry Irons, nuff said. sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:57 pm
Connor Kent Jaeger_Ayers I know I'm going to regret this...What's your problem? Whoa there, Defensive Man. I know how easily you get up on a soap box. confused Quote: Two people can't enjoy each other's company and a little romance around here? Why don't you try showing Cassie a nice time? I'm sure she'd appreciate it. Oh, too late, he's on the box. Ok, anyway. You guys over-do it. Waaaaaay too often, and too mushy for my tastes. You two make Pete and MJ look like Tommy Lee and Pam Anderson, jeez. gonk Overdoing it would be us making out like two horny n00bs in the chatterbox. I'd say we've kept it tasteful.
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:58 pm
Querl Dox Need to field a query to Ayers. Are the dice you futurecast with traditional six-sided dice? Yeah, seven six-sided dice.
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:59 pm
Querl Dox When your inherent characterization is of utter social ineptitude coupled with 12-level effector intelligence, you're free to be hesitant when interpersonal relationships are the subject of discussion. Oh, word? Hey, shaddap and pass me the Oreos. xd
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:00 pm
Being a...version of a higher-level cosmic entity doesn't make her Supergirl. She's never called Supergirl. She's not inherently Kryptonian nor references anything from the Supergirl lore (like the previous "Linda of Leesville" Supergirl did). Is she a part of the 'Superman family'? Possibly, I don't have enough information for that, but she doesn't meet the Supergirl criteria.
As for 'current' Supergirl, having the last name -El, nicking the Silver Age Supergirl's origin, and the costume seem to confirm her veracity.
I'd say there's more scope for debate about whether or not Cir-El would qualify, but DC's official stance on her is that she's 'more' Supergirl then the Matrix Supergirl was, apparently.
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:00 pm
*Flies in* Hey, look. It's Superman Junior! What's up, kid?
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:01 pm
Jaeger_Ayers Querl Dox Need to field a query to Ayers. Are the dice you futurecast with traditional six-sided dice? Yeah, seven six-sided dice.
::updates information::
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:06 pm
Querl Dox Being a...version of a higher-level cosmic entity doesn't make her Supergirl. She's never called Supergirl. She's not inherently Kryptonian nor references anything from the Supergirl lore (like the previous "Linda of Leesville" Supergirl did). Is she a part of the 'Superman family'? Possibly, I don't have enough information for that, but she doesn't meet the Supergirl criteria.
As for 'current' Supergirl, having the last name -El, nicking the Silver Age Supergirl's origin, and the costume seem to confirm her veracity.
I'd say there's more scope for debate about whether or not Cir-El would qualify, but DC's official stance on her is that she's 'more' Supergirl then the Matrix Supergirl was, apparently. Bah, the Supergirl criteria are bunk. Kismet, being Fate and all, probably had a hand in the distruction of Krypton, and thus, the sending of its only son to Earth. So, its imaginable that Strange Visitor indirectly created Superman. Also, she wears the shield, and is a girl. That references Supergirl lore enough for me. xd Inherently Kryptonian, I pointed out, neither are myself, John H. Irons, or The Cyborg (AFAIK). I dont know why they didnt call her Supergirl though, especially since they knew they were going to just kill her off. pirate
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:08 pm
Warrior Guy Gardner *Flies in* Hey, look. It's Superman Junior! What's up, kid? Oh, no, its Guy. Ill have to let Kyle know youre in KAPOW, Im sure he'll curse. Frequently and loudly. So, who do you punch out this issue? xd
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:10 pm
Connor Kent Warrior Guy Gardner *Flies in* Hey, look. It's Superman Junior! What's up, kid? Oh, no, its Guy. Ill have to let Kyle know youre in KAPOW, Im sure he'll curse. Frequently and loudly. So, who do you punch out this issue? xd I'm gonna smack Batman around! But, ummm. I'm not taking my ring off this time redface
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:10 pm
Connor Kent Bah, the Supergirl criteria are bunk. Kismet, being Fate and all, probably had a hand in the distruction of Krypton, and thus, the sending of its only son to Earth. So, its imaginable that Strange Visitor indirectly created Superman. Also, she wears the shield, and is a girl. That references Supergirl lore enough for me. xd Inherently Kryptonian, I pointed out, neither are myself, John H. Irons, or The Cyborg (AFAIK). I dont know why they didnt call her Supergirl though, especially since they knew they were going to just kill her off. pirate
Steel's connection to Superman is a little more tenuous, but after the Death and Rebirth, he never claimed to be anything but tributary.
Superboy has Superman's DNA.
I'd say there's a stronger argument that Andromeda of the Legion of Superheroes is a Supergirl then Strange Visitor. I'd consider SV a tributary character like Steel.
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:13 pm
Querl Dox Connor Kent Bah, the Supergirl criteria are bunk. Kismet, being Fate and all, probably had a hand in the distruction of Krypton, and thus, the sending of its only son to Earth. So, its imaginable that Strange Visitor indirectly created Superman. Also, she wears the shield, and is a girl. That references Supergirl lore enough for me. xd Inherently Kryptonian, I pointed out, neither are myself, John H. Irons, or The Cyborg (AFAIK). I dont know why they didnt call her Supergirl though, especially since they knew they were going to just kill her off. pirate
Steel's connection to Superman is a little more tenuous, but after the Death and Rebirth, he never claimed to be anything but tributary.
Superboy has Superman's DNA.
I'd say there's a stronger argument that Andromeda of the Legion of Superheroes is a Supergirl then Strange Visitor. I'd consider SV a tributary character like Steel.Cool, I can agree with that. You know, it sure is nice to have an adult debate now and then. All that time in AMC made me forget. crying
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